Fallen Fool Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 At King Penchuck and The AUT, wasn't it NpO who got into an unnecessary scuffle with VE for simply mediating a conflict between Polar and FIST over that whole impersonation thing? I'm sure it made VE regret dropping Polar as treaty partners You mean when when Ardus blind-sided Sponge by bringing him into a channel full of "concerned citizens" like Heft from IRON and proceeded to demand Chickenzilla's expulsion because he gave people special access to the secret resignation board? I remember that. I also remember Sponge responding like a #$%^#@ off tiger backed into a corner. Gee, remembering a decidedly partisan view of history is fun and totally irrelevant!Also interesting show VE, I give you props for stirring the pot. I'm sure you made old man Sponge proud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejayrazz Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 So canceling a treaty without informing the other party first is an honorable and respectful action now? This is technically informing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youwish959 Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 (edited) Canceling treaties with NPO and IRON is an opportunistic move these days? If it pans out how they hope, I believe it will be considered oppurtunistic. Like I said, if Virdia makes it through a major losing war, and does NOT disband, they will have my personal apology. However, we must remember who they are. How they disbanded during war, and then how they came back when the oppurtunity was ripe. That is oppurtunism, and until I see otherwise from them, I will see them as an oppurtunistic alliance. edit: Back to the treaty. One would think you would be highly selective of your MADP partners. Is Virdia selective of her treaty partners, and the situations changed, or does she hand out treaties such as these without question? Edited March 24, 2009 by youwish959 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umar ibn Abd al-Aziz Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 This is technically informing them. But Ejay, you'd agree that it is fairly undiplomatic to provide the exact reasons for the cancellation in private, wouldn't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Style #386 Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 (edited) Quick shanprice join ODN before you continue to spread! Errr... what? I fail to see how your ill-informed sniping has anything at all to do with VE dropping treaties, etc. Edited March 24, 2009 by Style 386 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Authur Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 I've just invented a new disease.Shaneprincitis - a psychological disorder which manifests as a clinical inability to be allied to members of OneVision. Transmission is highly effective, with a single Shaneprice organism being able to infect the host in most situations. However, this organism thrives and grows in the body's CNS (spine and brain). Hosts who lack a CNS will find themselves immune to Shanepricitis. So I lack a spine and brain becuase I support my alliance and our allies? Nice to know. Kind of funny how the people "with spines" complain from afar while us "spineless, brainless" folks are just sitting around waiting for a real challenge. :jihad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nizzle Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 So canceling a treaty without informing the other party first is an honorable and respectful action now? You can't very well pick from a batch of horrible things your own allies have done in the past, you need be held accountable for all of their errors when you try and speak the way you have been. All of them. Canceling treaties without notice, outright not honoring treaties, spying, etc. I do believe at one point or another, an ally of yours canceled an alliance and ignored the cancellation period. So, what I'm saying, is that the very same accusations you make are things everyone here has seen you and yours do in the past. Thus, it's funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Srqt Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 So canceling a treaty without informing the other party first is an honorable and respectful action now? I believe VE is giving Planet Bob a much needed dose of $%&@ private channels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekJones Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 (edited) You mean when when Ardus blind-sided Sponge by bringing him into a channel full of "concerned citizens" like Heft from IRON and proceeded to demand Chickenzilla's expulsion because he gave people special access to the secret resignation board? I remember that. I also remember Sponge responding like a #$%^#@ off tiger backed into a corner. Gee, remembering a decidedly partisan view of history is fun and totally irrelevant! Edit3: No we are referring to the same thing http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=26941 Scroll down to the logs between VE gov and Sponge. They speak for themselves, regardless of who was in the room at the time. No need to remember a partisan view of history when we have logs of what happened Edited March 24, 2009 by DerekJones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Style #386 Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 I believe VE is giving Planet Bob a much needed dose of $%&@ private channels. If that were the case then we'd get a little more of the story. So close... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nizzle Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 So I lack a spine and brain becuase I support my alliance and our allies? Nice to know. Kind of funny how the people "with spines" complain from afar while us "spineless, brainless" folks are just sitting around waiting for a real challenge. :jihad: What? A real challenge? This coming from an alliance that won't go to war without have 20x the NS of their opponent on their side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youwish959 Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 That's how most of the alliances in CN are. I know it is an insult to be in that group, but you make it out much worse than it is I fail to see how I made it out worse than it is. I said they do not have my respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Srqt Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Errr... what? I fail to see how your ill-informed sniping has anything at all to do with VE dropping treaties, etc. Oh its not ill informed history has taught us well about the ODN's spine or lack there of. My comment was directly in response to Hizzy's and if you guys can't take a joke than well I honestly don't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umar ibn Abd al-Aziz Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 (edited) I believe VE is giving Planet Bob a much needed dose of $%&@ private channels. I suppose that diplomatic tact, charm and common courtesy is all but dead on PB then, hrrmm? Edited March 24, 2009 by Umar ibn Abd al-Aziz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkerNinja Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Didn't bother to read the terms of the GGA treaty or they would have noticed that they just breached their treaty. I just need to know one thing. Will this be used to justify a war against VE spearheaded by GGA? If so, that is freakin' awesome. "Sorry, you didn't cancel correctly. Eat nukez nao." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejayrazz Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 I just need to know one thing. Will this be used to justify a war against VE spearheaded by GGA? If so, that is freakin' awesome. "Sorry, you didn't cancel correctly. Eat nukez nao." How didn't they cancel correctly? They DID cancel correctly. It never stated it COULDN'T be announced, just that it HAD to be announced after the expiration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Duffy Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 it was announced.... just in OWF and not in private..... VE had enough of the BS and finally stood up for herself..... If two partners come to a fork in the road and decide to travel down different paths, isnt it best to let the other one go? Or is it best to just follow them with a noose around your neck stepping on eggshells everyday afraid if you disagree with them they will just find the nearest tree and string you up. VE cut the noose and said to hell with it ....this is the path we want and is blazing her own new trail free of fear and free of the noose that once bound her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornguard Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 If it pans out how they hope, I believe it will be considered oppurtunistic. Like I said, if Virdia makes it through a major losing war, and does NOT disband, they will have my personal apology. However, we must remember who they are. How they disbanded during war, and then how they came back when the oppurtunity was ripe. That is oppurtunism, and until I see otherwise from them, I will see them as an oppurtunistic alliance. edit: Back to the treaty. One would think you would be highly selective of your MADP partners. Is Virdia selective of her treaty partners, and the situations changed, or does she hand out treaties such as these without question? Viridia does not dole out these treaties without careful thought or planning. We have had these treaties for quite some time. But, people change; and with these changes come decisions on how we will play into the ripple effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proxian Empire Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Don't get me wrong, I am very happy that VE has finally seen the light and realised what a miserable excuse for a "friend" the Great Satan can be, but I will not forget that they sold us out and helped Polar's enemies in the war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umar ibn Abd al-Aziz Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 (edited) <snip>If two partners come to a fork in the road and decide to travel down different paths, isnt it best to let the other one go? <snip> Well it might be a good idea to actually let your partner know the reasons in detail for why you're charging off in another direction so that they might consider their own path, I suppose. I mean, I think that's the mature way of behaving towards those who you call your friends (or were once friends), rather than being relatively uncommunicative about the matter. Edited March 24, 2009 by Umar ibn Abd al-Aziz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurion Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Does RIA have issues with Q? These seem to have eluded your grasp. Errr... what? I fail to see how your ill-informed sniping has anything at all to do with VE dropping treaties, etc. Srgt was joking. He's not the most diplomatic guy, but I kind of doubt he meant any genuine ill-will. Chill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkerNinja Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 How didn't they cancel correctly?They DID cancel correctly. It never stated it COULDN'T be announced, just that it HAD to be announced after the expiration. I didn't read the treaty, I was just quoting the fellow that said they had violated it. Perception is reality, right? Anywayas, I'm sure that there is a semantic argument to be made by our e-lawyers. "Semantics" is still technically a step up from, "No CB, just die." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hizzy Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 So I lack a spine and brain becuase I support my alliance and our allies? Nice to know. Kind of funny how the people "with spines" complain from afar while us "spineless, brainless" folks are just sitting around waiting for a real challenge. :jihad: I don't know if I should point out how badly you missed the joke, or just let you sit there feeling good about yourself while oblivious to what's going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornguard Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Don't get me wrong, I am very happy that VE has finally seen the light and realised what a miserable excuse for a "friend" the Great Satan can be, but I will not forget that they sold us out and helped Polar's enemies in the war. Not everyone currently in VE participated in that war... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Authur Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 What? A real challenge?This coming from an alliance that won't go to war without have 20x the NS of their opponent on their side. 1. I don't have a say. I prefer even sided conflicts. 2. We have no control over the size of the opposition or their ability to muster support. 3. We aren't the only one's allowed to start wars. If there is so much evidence of wrong doing on our part, as you claim, what's stopping you? 4. This is getting off topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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