Redoran Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 Good luck to all parties involved. Once the bond and trust that supports a treaty is gone, there isn't much point in keeping it.That said, those that are saying that VE and a particular grouping of alliances are the only ones with balls/honor/morals/insert other stereotype here are doing the same exact thing that the complain that the "NPO Drones" whom they are so fond of criticizing for their, "Mindless posts." Parroting statements about "balls" and "honor" while criticizing the other side's "mindless hailing" really doesn't help your claim that you have originality. Believe it or not, not everyone allied to the NPO or a tC alliance is a "drone" or a "meat shield," canceling a treaty with NPO or IRON doesn't make an alliance any better than any other alliance, and disagreeing with someone does not make them automatically wrong. The Continuum and their allies are not the only ones that have used strongarm tactics and have thrown their weight around to get what they want. My own alliance has experienced this kind of treatment at times from alliances who were not part of the group many who posted comments about "balls" see as being in the wrong. There are treaties formed on friendship and trust on both sides of the MDP web, it's not all part of a nefarious scheme for world domination, and those allied to the NPO or its allies aren't all puppets. I can't speak completely officially of course, but in no way was that the kind of impression VE were trying to give, by ending these 3 treaties. As it has been shown on these forums, alliances and friendships, and all of the Cyberverse evolves in time, and it felt like the time for these treaties had passed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Debater Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 You have Balls I like Balls This is a very interesting move though. Cant wait to see the next move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingSuck Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 I love how VE is now everyone's favourite alliance. If the bonds were no longer there then you made the right choice VE, stick to your standards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCRABT Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 I can't speak completely officially of course, but in no way was that the kind of impression VE were trying to give, by ending these 3 2 treaties. As it has been shown on these forums, alliances and friendships, and all of the Cyberverse evolves in time, and it felt like the time for these treaties had passed. fixed for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinoceros Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 Not bad VE, good luck in the future. We need more alliances willing to stand up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaGneT Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 You have Balls I like Balls This is a very interesting move though. Cant wait to see the next move. OOC: Wrong terrorist. IC: I think many people like them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan King Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 I can't speak completely officially of course, but in no way was that the kind of impression VE were trying to give, by ending these 3 treaties. As it has been shown on these forums, alliances and friendships, and all of the Cyberverse evolves in time, and it felt like the time for these treaties had passed. Hey Elbows, glad to see you around again. The Good luck to all parties involved. Once the bond and trust that supports a treaty is gone, there isn't much point in keeping it. was directed towards VE. The rest was directed towards the members of this community that act in the way that was detailed in the rest of the conversation (I read the whole thing and noticed some trends). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvon Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 fixed for you. Get over it. Your thunder was stolen. It's just a treaty cancellation. Nothing to lose sleep over not getting to announce first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Wilson Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 Hey Elbows, glad to see you around again. The was directed towards VE. The rest was directed towards the members of this community that act in the way that was detailed in the rest of the conversation (I read the whole thing and noticed some trends). Well, come on, its not every day you see someone cancel ON NPO, GGA, and IRON at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haflinger Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 Well, come on, its not every day you see someone cancel ON NPO, GGA, and IRON at the same time. Actually, I don't think I've ever seen that happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redoran Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 Hey Elbows, glad to see you around again. The <snip> was directed towards VE. The rest was directed towards the members of this community that act in the way that was detailed in the rest of the conversation (I read the whole thing and noticed some trends). Thanks. I understood who it was directed at, but I just wanted to assure people that it wasn't people trying to act ballsy, or people trying to give a certain image. And thanks for the correction, MCRABT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Wilson Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 Actually, I don't think I've ever seen that happen. That is my point good sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Caspian Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 Thanks for the well wishes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deruvian Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 Good luck to all parties involved! VE you have our Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Style #386 Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 That is my point good sir. I believe you missed my friend's point. It didn't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooman33 Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 Suddenly I feel prophetic.I'm sure the GOP feel very well protected, however. We're perfectly fine And we hope that our Green brothers will seek out a peaceful resolution to their differences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redoran Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 That is my point good sir. He meant because IRON cancelled first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Wilson Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 I believe you missed my friend's point. It didn't happen. I know that. My point of my original post was that Duncan says don't make a big deal out of it when no one has ever done this before. It was sarcasm good sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D34th Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 The Viridian Entente does not wish to be allied to those whose support will only be given when they deem fit. The Viridian Entente does not wish to be allied to those who attempt to use political pressure to influence our sovereign actions. The Viridian Entente does not wish to be allied to those who cannot be honest, forthright, and frank with us about their intentions and reasoning. I hope that one day all CN alliances would follow this guidelines. I can't say that people canceling with VE was a unexpected move. Nice to see you stand by your ideals VE. I wish the best luck for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haflinger Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 oh god James and I were both joking almost on the same wavelength, guys MOVE ALONG, NOTHING TO SEE HERE; IRON CANCELS ON VE, VE SUBSEQUENTLY CANCELS ON GGA AND NPO, THOSE ARE THE FACTS, EVERYONE AGREES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Wilson Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 He meant because IRON cancelled first. VE beat them to the public announcement so while it was IRON's original intentions, I see VE as canceling first. This is just my opinion though...flawed as it may be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Style #386 Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 VE beat them to the public announcement so while it was IRON's original intentions, I see VE as canceling first. This is just my opinion though...flawed as it may be. Lies. Greedo shot first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Greenberg Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Interesting to say the least. Good luck to all parties though. All are going to need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
menwearpink135 Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 o/ VE. Good to see more people standing up for what they believe in and not just following what all of the "cool kids" are doing. I see a bright future for VE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekJones Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 (edited) VE beat them to the public announcement so while it was IRON's original intentions, I see VE as canceling first. This is just my opinion though...flawed as it may be. It's pretty flawed actually. IRON informed VE of their intent to cancel last night, and VE posting first doesn't exactly change that. Where in any logical sense does that make VE the first one to cancel? I think it's great that VE decided to finally grow a pair and cancel. It's been pretty obvious that you guys weren't content with the alliances ties were broken with, though kind of late, don't you think? Edited March 24, 2009 by DerekJones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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