Doitzel Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 AHAHA. That's a good one. Not willing to give peace a chance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D34th Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Not willing to give peace a chance? They aren't GPA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unko Kalaikz Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 You're always welcome to drop by #vox_populi or lift the nick-bans on myself and others, or else just take us off of eternal ZI. Oh, so now Vox will surrender if given the chance? Where was that brave revolutionary spirit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earogema Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Oh, so now Vox will surrender if given the chance? Where was that brave revolutionary spirit? We're not surrendering, simply extending a diplomatic hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unko Kalaikz Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 We're not surrendering, simply extending a diplomatic hand. So let me know if I'm correct, if tC offered you lenient terms or even white peace and you could go your various ways, you would give up your revolutionary efforts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earogema Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 So let me know if I'm correct, if tC offered you lenient terms or even white peace and you could go your various ways, you would give up your revolutionary efforts? I wouldn't, but if they don't want us to spy on them, they should at least attempt to talk to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unko Kalaikz Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 I wouldn't, but if they don't want us to spy on them, they should at least attempt to talk to us. If you won't give up your rebellious activity what point is there to negotiation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earogema Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 If you won't give up your rebellious activity what point is there to negotiation? We could resort to other means, or we could be civil about said means if they wished to talk. However they don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unko Kalaikz Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 We could resort to other means, or we could be civil about said means if they wished to talk. However they don't. Ok let me ask this way, what can we possibly gain from negotiating with you? How would we know you are being faithful to your agreements? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragashingo Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Ok let me ask this way, what can we possibly gain from negotiating with you? The answer is nothing. Congratulation on FINALLY winning one. Sure you did so by overlooking the real point, that Vox isn't hypocritical in spying since they are in a war. And sure it wasn't much of a battle, we all know well and good Vox isn't going to disband because their enemies are nice to them. But a I guess a win is a win no matter how small and much you have to ignore eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfox101 Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 So let me know if I'm correct, if tC offered you lenient terms or even white peace and you could go your various ways, you would give up your revolutionary efforts? One of the reasons Vox was formed was due to the EZI of many of the founders. We had other reasons as well, but that was a major issue. However, no, Vox will never stop until Victory Day regardless of what is offered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unko Kalaikz Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 (edited) The answer is nothing. Congratulation on FINALLY winning one. Sure you did so by overlooking the real point, that Vox isn't hypocritical in spying since they are in a war. And sure it wasn't much of a battle, we all know well and good Vox isn't going to disband because their enemies are nice to them. But a I guess a win is a win no matter how small and much you have to ignore eh? However, no, Vox will never stop until Victory Day regardless of what is offered. Then what is this blathering about negotiating? With attitudes like that, I'm afraid Vox will continue to be grounded and must sit in the corner. Edited March 4, 2009 by Count da Silva Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shahenshah Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 We're not surrendering, simply extending a diplomatic hand. Diplomatic way of Surrendering Most excellent choice of words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragashingo Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Then what is this blathering about negotiating? With attitudes like that, I'm afraid Vox will continue to be grounded and must sit in the corner. It was NPO member Geoffron X who called Vox hypocritical for not attempting diplomacy in their war. Perhaps you missed that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shahenshah Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 I wouldn't, but if they don't want us to spy on them, they should at least attempt to talk to us. However, no, Vox will never stop until Victory Day regardless of what is offered. I see lack of uniformity in 18 man alliance...and we thought Vox was splitting up Q Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unko Kalaikz Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 It was NPO member Geoffron X who called Vox hypocritical for not attempting diplomacy in their war. Perhaps you missed that. Diplomacy is not extending an olive branch while simultaneously saying revolutionary activity won't cease. If you want to negotiate you must be willing to surrender something the other party wants, otherwise what is the point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragashingo Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 I see lack of uniformity in 18 man alliance...and we thought Vox was splitting up Q You aren't looking very hard. Those two statements can easily go together without contradiction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unko Kalaikz Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 You aren't looking very hard. Those two statements can easily go together without contradiction. I wouldn't, but if they don't want us to spy on them, they should at least attempt to talk to us. However, no, Vox will never stop until Victory Day regardless of what is offered. ... Only if Victory day = Surrender day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragashingo Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Only if Victory day = Surrender day. Wrong. There are other options. For example Vox could stop spying but use other means to continue the war in exchange for some sacrifice from their enemies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enderland Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 wow, I had to check the OP to make sure it was what I thought it was :S Good luck against the horde NPO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unko Kalaikz Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Wrong. There are other options. For example Vox could stop spying but use other means to continue the war in exchange for some sacrifice from their enemies. Right, and we would believe Vox actually stopped spying because they said they did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragashingo Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Right, and we would believe Vox actually stopped spying because they said they did. All I said was that there were other options besides the one you said was the only option. Nice to see you already retreating from that silly statement of yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unko Kalaikz Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 All I said was that there were other options besides the one you said was the only option. Nice to see you already retreating from that silly statement of yours. It's not an option if it doesn't work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragashingo Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 (edited) It's not an option if it doesn't work. Typical. You still refuse to address the point. The Point: Surrender is not the only way Vox can cease spying on their enemies but continue the war until they achieve victory. Edited March 4, 2009 by Ragashingo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doitzel Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 So let me know if I'm correct, if tC offered you lenient terms or even white peace and you could go your various ways, you would give up your revolutionary efforts? If such an offer came we would have to discuss it as an alliance. I won't hold my breath. Ok let me ask this way, what can we possibly gain from negotiating with you? You can't gain anything from an alliance from whom you have taken everything and who has nothing left to lose. So long as you continue to bring a war to us we will continue to bring it to you. We are the creation of our enemies, the result of their lack of foresight. I see lack of uniformity in 18 man alliance...and we thought Vox was splitting up Q 18 members? Is that what we're down to? Hehe, oh my, oh my. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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