Sabioviejo Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 "As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one." The original Godwins law made a statement about the increasing chance of Nazi's and or Hitler getting involved in a discussion. I think we can state that a similar law is true to Planet Bob. "As a CN discussion grows longer, the probability that a Vox vs NPO discussion will start approaches one." Lets just call that the Vox Law. And lets just avoid it, its getting tiresome that about every topic gets hijacked by either side. I also call on the mods to be more assertive in stopping these discussions from happening. And added to that, its rather counterproductive to close a topic if it derails, people will just move to another topic. Its better to close a topic, remove the posts that are completely off topic, and re-open the topic with a clear warning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MercyFallout Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 This is a smart man here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaBuc Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Very true. It ain't the CN forums til it's a NPO vs. Vox debate. -Bama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homura Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Well technically all threads become about Vox, FAN, or Great War 1 as they grow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovyet Gelibolu Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Well technically all threads become about Vox, FAN, or Great War 1 as they grow. It'd be interesting to map the tendencies of threads with particular OPs to see which OPs spawn Vox threads, which spawn FAN threads, and which spawn GW1 threads. Any math majors wanna give it a whirl? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Srqt Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 I knew saving this quote we come in handy for something While I have come to understand that the new "Godwin's Law" of Cyber Nations is that all threads must mention Vox Populi, they are not the topic here. So lets try to get this thread back on track. Seems that you have been beaten to your point OP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacky Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 GW1 is the Godwins of CN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairman Cao Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 People who get antagonized too easily are really what causes this problem imo. If fewer people felt the need to respond to or defend themselves or their alliance against every single insult by a small minority of trolls, then posts would stay on topic rather than escallating as they do, and the vox/NPO comments would remain in vox/NPO related threads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Whimsical Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 I'd say its more likely someone makes fun of Legion or GGA as the threads progresses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sithis Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Any debate in CN usually turns into an argument over GW1, with Vox and the NPO on opposing sides. Why do I still play this game... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Litler Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Does this mean people will stop accusing me of being a Nazi and start accusing me of belonging to Vox Populi or the NPO? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finner Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 I agree, people need to snap out of this buzz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boscher Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 open door :z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earogema Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Psh, this announcement wouldn't needed if NPO wasn't so disgusting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electron Sponge Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Psh, this announcement wouldn't needed if NPO wasn't so disgusting. I see what you did there. More originality in how people conduct business will lead to more original arguments. Every thread ends up about Vox/NPO because Vox are the only ones willing and able to openly defy NPO and their running dogs. If more organized groups of people would openly disagree with the hegemony then it wouldn't be about Vox anymore. I know that there are tons of people out there who don't like it, but they aren't talking so it ends up being all about us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabioviejo Posted February 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 I see what you did there.More originality in how people conduct business will lead to more original arguments. Every thread ends up about Vox/NPO because Vox are the only ones willing and able to openly defy NPO and their running dogs. If more organized groups of people would openly disagree with the hegemony then it wouldn't be about Vox anymore. I know that there are tons of people out there who don't like it, but they aren't talking so it ends up being all about us. That still doesn't justify hijacking every topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal Paradise Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Wouldn't it make sense that as any discussion grows the probability of anything being brought up approaches one? I propose Sal's Law (not to be confused with Salic Law): "as a CN discussion grows longer, the probability of a woman inheriting the throne of France approaches one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre27 Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 The original Godwins law made a statement about the increasing chance of Nazi's and or Hitler getting involved in a discussion.I think we can state that a similar law is true to Planet Bob. Lets just call that the Vox Law. And lets just avoid it, its getting tiresome that about every topic gets hijacked by either side. Nah. That's giving way too much credit to vox, but i agree the constant baiting is more than mildly annoying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaGneT Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 This is thread is entirely groundless and I can prove that by citing the 3rd month of the Vox vs NPO conflict, Schattenman made a thread that did not grow and Pacifica was not mentioned. Thus, Vox and NPO conflict blah blah blah blah etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovyet Gelibolu Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Wouldn't it make sense that as any discussion grows the probability of anything being brought up approaches one?I propose Sal's Law (not to be confused with Salic Law): "as a CN discussion grows longer, the probability of a woman inheriting the throne of France approaches one. What throne of France? Vive la Republique! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electron Sponge Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 That still doesn't justify hijacking every topic. Agreed. It's a good thing that doesn't happen then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doitzel Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 That still doesn't justify hijacking every topic. I'm sorry but that's complete and utter crap. Every single time I make a criticism about anyone or anything it becomes about who I am, what I've done, or my alliance. I mean it's standard deflection but it's not like we intentionally hijack threads by saying "you're full of it" -- generally the hijacking comes in responce. I can't tell you how many times I've seen a thread go from "you guys are scum" to a discussion of what scum Electron Sponge was during the Unjust War because nobody can come up with anything new. Or what scum I was just because I used to be in the NPO (no examples are even given! there are plenty of them damnit!). I'm not saying we're not a little bit at fault here, maybe we are. But maybe if somebody else in this goddamn game would show an ounce of testicular fortitude and say something bold for once there'd be an argument centred around them. Instead, every time that happens the person's alliance comes in and shoves a goat leg down their throat and yanks them off the stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homura Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 I'm not saying we're not a little bit at fault here, maybe we are. But maybe if somebody else in this goddamn game would show an ounce of testicular fortitude and say something bold for once there'd be an argument centred around them. Instead, every time that happens the person's alliance comes in and shoves a goat leg down their throat and yanks them off the stage. If I started doing that I'd almost certainly get myself and my alliance in trouble with somebody or other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doitzel Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 If I started doing that I'd almost certainly get myself and my alliance in trouble with somebody or other. That is exactly our point. So until you all fix your little problem with speaking frankly, we will continue to do it for you and we will continue to be the centre of every conversation. It is not our fault that everyone else is too busy cowering in their hidey-hole to elucidate the words "you're wrong". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homura Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 That is exactly our point. So until you all fix your little problem with speaking frankly, we will continue to do it for you and we will continue to be the centre of every conversation. It is not our fault that everyone else is too busy cowering in their hidey-hole to elucidate the words "you're wrong". I personally don't care that all threads are about Vox right now though. It's fun, even though I know some people don't think so. However, you're not really speaking for me, since who I dislike right now and who you dislike right now aren't necessarily the same, especially in this multi-faceted diplomatic world where there is more than just black and white. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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