Chairman Cao

I'm sure Slayer will be back in a month, after realising all the rage and bitterness has left him with nothing else in life.

I don't see those as harsh terms, nor do I see it as cheap for GOD to have directly messaged the membership. They probably did this in the belief that many Echelon, some of whom would by now desparately want surrender, would never otherwise hear about the offer their own gov is refusing. Fight on or surrender either is fine, but there's nothing low about GODs actions.

Congrats on peace to all involved

I doubt he minds it somehow. The enemies with several thousand tech and a WRC are the really scary ones, and by the time they're down to 1k infra you can barely do any real damage to them either, while they can take 350+ infra and land easily. Warchests can't last forever though, at least I hope so!

You can however give a defeat alert if they have no soldiers at all, then get 2 ground attacks in later when they rebuy. But the DA must be first, not after the GAs.

I wasn't suggesting that you couldn't have hurt us back then. But you know as well as I do that if it had just been the two our alliances, despite the massive size difference, we would gladly have fought you to the death. Perhaps there will be a round 2 (hope I have a FAFB by then too).

I haven't noticed it say razed at all tbh. I keep battle logs and this is the difference between the two situations.

TPF backed up by most of the alliances who are now on the losing side of the current war? Indeed.

Give it a try and see how well you fare

Typo's what?

It's a raid so indeed I will choose an easy target when there are many available - raids are meant to be profitable. If my target wishes to fight back I'm already in a nuclear war with 2 other nations so he shouldn't have too hard a time. Many people here are simply interested in attacking our tech raiding itself. While you're perfectly free to do this, it's a separate issue and not what this thread was about. If our actions towards California were anything more than a raid we wouldn't have limited attacks to GAs and offered peace immediately. This should be evident.

Because their top 5 nations have a whole 25 nukes total on top of a formidable 0 WRC, 0 AADN and 2 FAB! Damn right, we wouldn't dare touch that.

There is a balance imo, and I believe that the majority of alliance surrender too soon. While it's true that there is little point taking everybody to ZI since you're better off rebuilding without crippling yourself first to fight another day; the alliances who surrender very early on only lose respect and credibility as a result. While it's one thing to surrender early if choosing to enter through optional treaty obligations, if a powerful alliance surrenders very early on they only show themselves to be largely irrelavent. No matter how powerful an alliance is statistically, if they're not going to follow through on a war because of fear of losing some of those statistics, then they aren't really much threat at all.

Thus supporting Syrik's point. This is a raid. It is not a spiteful attack on TPF. TPF is giving us a good war for the most part and I hope it keeps up.

Good to hear

I want land reps. The rest is inconsequential.

Agreed. Not everything in this game is consistent, but the suggestion would in many cases significantly disadvantage anybody who can't get on at updates. Edit: old thread, sorry...

Personally I hope that I never come to take any internet based community so seriously or spend so much time on it that I treat it as a significant part of my life other than primarily as a passtime/entertainment source with a strong community aspect. I don't mean disrespect to anybody by this, and I know some will disagree, but in my experience the best freindships are based on a variety of shared experiences - something which is inherently limited in the online media. I do enjoy the humour and occasional deep discussions in both these and my alliance forums, and without the community aspect I would not have played the game for more than a week. I would certainly call some people in this game my friends, but I would never treat these friendships on par with RL ones, and if I ever did it would be a sign to myself that I am taking the game too seriously at the expense of RL.

~3mil every second day to buy back 1k infra and you could do it forever AFAIK

I agree that the land system needs a few changes. Unfortunately this idea never has much support since the great majority of people in this game don't really like war and view it as an occasional unfortunate necessity. So land, being something that can only be gained through war, draws the short straw as the majority don't want others to be able to benefit in a way that they cannot, let alone to encourage war. I still think war must remain the primary method of accruing land otherwise variety will be lost, but it does need to be made more defensible, since at present it is slow or impossible to gain but very quick to lose against a competent opponent.

I agree with Alden. There are and have been clear and significant differences in how well different alliances fare based on how organized they are. No doubt the Karma side was stronger to begin with but some Hegemony alliances are/were falling much faster than they should be. TPF has been hit hard but they're also being attacked by a hell of a lot of enemies - considering which they're holding out well. Other alliances on the same side however have taken far fewer and easier wars but still lost similar proportions of their NS.

I was referring to the majority of the current top 10 whose charts show they haven't entered a war yet. I realise the rest of you have taken a lot of damage and if these others are indeed planning some long-term stagger then good job to you all. You're all fighting well for sure and I wasn't suggesting for a moment that everybody currently in peacemode is avoiding war - the original comment was referring to the relative drops in NS between your alliance as a whole and TPF as a whole.

Well fair enough, keep up the fight, we are indeed all enjoying it Three more days of eating MHawk's nukes (of which my SDI hasn't stopped a single one) and I should be within range of more of you.

TPF only have a few members in no wars; Avalon have close to half their NS worth in perma-peacemode. Respect to the majority in Avalon who are fighting hard, but the upper levels are letting the rest suffer.

o/ NV Enjoy the carnage.