Baron Terror Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Funny as how the commies see Martens as their nemesis, as he himself didn't have this 'hatred' for communist alliances as opposed to some other prominent Nordreich members. I wouldn't go as far as say "nemesis" but perhaps some are weary of his intensions. In all honesty, the Left movement has moved on from the ridiculous ideological conflicts of the past, and we have already unified into a much stronger existence. Any threat Martens could pose would be minimal without some kind of backing, not that I'm accusing Martens of anything; I hope he enjoys his freedom to the fullest. I am confident that he has enough experience to know what not to do. Also hai Martens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doitzel Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Usually it's "Too bad, so-and-so is gonna be chased out of the game whether they like it or not. See, Alliance X is evil." But this is a new one. "Too bad, so-and-so is gonna be allowed to keep playing the game whether you like it or not. See, Alliance X is evil." (I'm not calling out GOD or anyone here, just pointing out that my dear Chicken will gladly reverse his arguments at the speed of light in order to vilify his enemies)And Doitzel, really now. I know you don't like Slayer, but like Chicken, you immediately changed from vilifying Slayer for his actions against KM/NoV to vilifying him for letting KM off the hook. You're an intelligent man. This may be hard for you to do, but consider the possibility that Slayer may not be the cyber-devil. -Bama Consider that I waged a yearlong personal vendetta against Martens, that until I came at the birth of Vox Populi he was cowering quietly in peace mode, and that as The Hindenburg went down in flames I convinced Martens to do the same. Perhaps I am the cyber-devil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthijs Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 In any case KM, I expect you to go back to the supervillian please, it makes CN so much more entertaining for us commies. It's been far too long since we had an ideological cold war, no? But now, you are the stronger party and can boss them around throughout the whole affair. Joking about crushing alliances is not something that should be forgiven or forgotten.That sort of action, guided by the impulsive, irresponsible and inconsequent lulz has destroyed sanctioned alliances and entire blocks in the past. It's damned funny though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northrend Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Funny as how the commies see Martens as their nemesis, as he himself didn't have this 'hatred' for communist alliances as opposed to some other prominent Nordreich members. Actually in the original charter, Nordreich was ideologically opposed to both extreme capitalist ideologies as well as far left, Communist ideologies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemhauser Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 ... the Left movement has moved on from the ridiculous ideological conflicts of the past... But it were these conflicts that made the whole NoR vs. ICP/SWF/LSF drama so much fun. CN hasn't been the same since it ended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trikoupis Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Speak to Slayer, I surrendered to all parties involved. In fact, he asked so many people that weren't directly involved that a few even said "He doesn't need clearance from us". All parties you said? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Terror Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 But it were these conflicts that made the whole NoR vs. ICP/SWF/LSF drama so much fun. CN hasn't been the same since it ended. It's easy to look back with nostalgia without realizing the reality that the Leftist alliances were at a constant disadvantage in all fields. Without NoR/NoV to think about we have flourished like never before. More to the point, a new right wing alliance similar to NoR wouldn't survive very long in today’s climate, and that’s without the Left/Right drama. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northrend Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 More to the point, a new right wing alliance similar to NoR wouldn't survive very long in today’s climate, and that’s without the Left/Right drama. Speaking from personal experience, I seriously doubt this. Time will prove you wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deSouza Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Funny as how the commies see Martens as their nemesis, as he himself didn't have this 'hatred' for communist alliances as opposed to some other prominent Nordreich members. Yeah, he was only responsible for rolling communists for the lulz and in this thread trolled about finding new ways to be an anticommunist without bringing the lolnazis/lolfascists card. I mean, that's not hatred or a legitimate reason to inspire hatred at all. /sarcasm Actually in the original charter, Nordreich was ideologically opposed to both extreme capitalist ideologies as well as far left, Communist ideologies. Communism isn't necessarily far left. In fact, ultraleftism is something we acknowledge as a problem. I suggest you inform yourself about "communist ideologies" before putting a label at them. Speaking from personal experience, I seriously doubt this. Time will prove you wrong. Any success in your revolution against NPO? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northrend Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Communism isn't necessarily far left. In fact, ultraleftism is something we acknowledge as a problem. I suggest you inform yourself about "communist ideologies" before putting a label at them. I think you should actually read the original charter before you open your mouth. Article IV: Symbolism and Ideology As previously stated, the Nordreich is neither officially left or right-winged, however, it is by nature strongly opposed to the countless threats to it’s ideals of cultural preservation, particularly global consumerist-capitalism and international communism. In particular, we are an anti-globalization alliance, and our Germanic Nationalism is not only a way to enrich ourselves by promoting a unique culture, but to take a stand against the rising tide of globalization. Our actions on cybernations can reasonably be expected to ring true with these truths. Furthermore, it can be stated that loving our land and folk does not equal hating or condoning violence against other ethnicities/nations on a basis of hate and bigotry.The Reich is accordingly strongly opposed to communism (even more so globalist capitalism) in its purest form, as it’s very ideological structure promotes the dissolution and stagnation of Germanic culture, and unofficially and ultimately, people. "Our stance against Communism is not a struggle for capitalism, but on the contrary, a struggle for true socialism that can only triumph once the most pervasive, violent, and degenerate offspring of socialism is first eliminated, along with it's extreme opposite, neoliberalism. Both practices, by nature, are opposed to our fundamental vision. In order to achieve this vision, the current order must be thoroughly destroyed. Our vision is true socialism and brotherhood for all European peoples throughout the Cyberverse." —Mjolnir Abteilung Oberstgruppenfuhrer Magnus Nordir, Imperial Regent and Volksfuhrer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemhauser Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 a new right wing alliance similar to NoR Nordreich was never a right-wing alliance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northrend Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Nordreich was never a right-wing alliance. That is a flat out lie. Nordreich was a bastion of conservative thought, but should never be confused with National Socialism or White Supremacy. It was, however, an alliance comprised mainly by members that were on the right wing spectrum of politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemhauser Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 That is a flat out lie. Nordreich was a bastion of conservative thought, but should never be confused with National Socialism or White Supremacy. It was, however, an alliance comprised mainly by members that were on the right wing spectrum of politics. I wasn't talking about individual members. The alliance itself was not right wing. It's even stated in the piece of charter you've quoted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northrend Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 I wasn't talking about individual members. The alliance itself was not right wing. It's even stated in the piece of charter you've quoted. An alliance's identity in my opinion, is what shapes it's own policies. Whilst the charter may have been expressly against right or left, the majority of the membership was right wing and the alliance was decidedly in favor of similar beliefs. What is on paper and what is in actuality are two entirely separate animals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cataduanes Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Cataduanes, hang in there. I am sure you won't be disappointed hmmm ok...i will be waiting Speaking from personal experience, I seriously doubt this. Time will prove you wrong. fair enough, us leftists will remain ever vigilant :jihad: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Germanic Republic Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 lol capitalists? Does the FCC count? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deSouza Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 (edited) I think you should actually read the original charter before you open your mouth.Article IV: Symbolism and Ideology I didn't "open my mouth" regarding this charter, I quoted your post that lumped "communist ideologies" and "far left ideologies" together, which is a mistake anyone who knows anticommunist propaganda and has not read on the subject in depth would make. Also, how would be this eurosocialism mentioned in the charter be? I'm intrigued. Edited February 11, 2009 by deSouza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ochocinco Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 (edited) Now that you're free, maybe you can take some more "joke" pictures of your disgusting shenanigans. Some jokes are unforgivable - CN has no place for people who bring that crap to the game or anywhere near it. Oh, and KM, I always had the utmost respect for you as you sat peacefully in Nueva Vida watching your alliance burn for your crimes. Any alliance that would have Kaiser Martens (or even CONSIDER admitting him) should be ashamed. Edited February 11, 2009 by ochocinco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shahenshah Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Gratz KM...I have vague memories of your dramas..never thought you'd get off lol, Gratz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaBuc Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Now that you're free, maybe you can take some more "joke" pictures of your disgusting shenanigans.Some jokes are unforgivable - CN has no place for people who bring that crap to the game or anywhere near it. Oh, and KM, I always had the utmost respect for you as you sat peacefully in Nueva Vida watching your alliance burn for your crimes. Any alliance that would have Kaiser Martens (or even CONSIDER admitting him) should be ashamed. Could you elaborate? (that's not a veiled threat of some sort, I'm just interested) -Bama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ochocinco Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Could you elaborate? (that's not a veiled threat of some sort, I'm just interested)-Bama I don't have a URL, but I think most people who have been around the block have seen the pictures of KM with his RL comrades who performing "Heil" gestures towards him. Not funny. Never will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaBuc Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 I don't have a URL, but I think most people who have been around the block have seen the pictures of KM with his RL comrades who performing "Heil" gestures towards him.Not funny. Never will be. Haven't see that, actually. If that's the case, I agree. There is no place for that here. -Bama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Flinders Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Now that you're free, maybe you can take some more "joke" pictures of your disgusting shenanigans.Some jokes are unforgivable - CN has no place for people who bring that crap to the game or anywhere near it. I've seen the picture and KM didn't bring that picture to CN nor do I think he intended for anyone in CN to ever see it. What someone does in their personal life outside this game is really none of your business and you should not worry yourself with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ochocinco Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 I've seen the picture and KM didn't bring that picture to CN nor do I think he intended for anyone in CN to ever see it. What someone does in their personal life outside this game is really none of your business and you should not worry yourself with it. When you create alliances like NoR, it's no longer just personal life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steodonn Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 When you create alliances like NoR, it's no longer just personal life. You don't happen to be form Norway do you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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