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o/ ftw Best of luck to LT

There is proof that ftw's senator tried to handle diplomatically, and that failed, which forced their hand, as an ally requested the sanction. So the sanction was used. However, I don't think anyone is trying to justify kindle's actions, and even as handling a rogue goes, this has escalated above and beyond. I hope nso can hash out something with ftw diplomatically, because clearly ftw has paid it's dues as an ally. It's been repaid with an attempt at escalating the situation.

By my understanding, nso went into political seclusion. To most people that means nuetrality. If they have an m level treaty, still, then perhaps a bit more advertisement of that would help in the future.

It's an odoap, ftw's only m level treaty is odn.

The difference there being ftw has an odoap with isx, and nso has no treaty with tbc. They honored a request from an ally to sanction someone attacking them without cause. I'm sure ftw would be happy to help them find a replacement if they ask for the help

If you want to hit him for his running his mouth, then say so. Otherwise, you ARE in fact roguejng, because this guy is hitting a sovereign, albeit annoying, alliance without any reasoning besides, "I don't like what they're saying!". I think this tbc crap has been blown far out of proportion. If NSO had a problem with the sanctioning of gibsonator, they had the ability to send a message to ftw, but instead of listening to reason and diplomacy, they jump the gun and throw in a sanction. By any real look at this, gibsonator is a rogue. If NSO didn't agree with this, they could've talked to ftw about it. But they didn't, did they?

Buying 100 tech costs maybe 2 mil? So a 9/100 means you net 7 mil per deal. Using that for jumps and all of that fun stuff, you can hit 4k infra in 1 to 2 rounds of selling. From there, you can use the cash flow for wonders and warchest. Tech sellers make enough, buyers get enough. If you want more, you need to change the system.

Does anyone else remember when people could respect their opponents? Pertaining to the topic, Goodluck to both parties. All are well fought, win or lose.

I'm not reading 4 pages of this crap, but as far as I can tell: Posse, you raided. Even if the response is a week later, you bite the bullet and accept that sometimes, dinner bites back. You don't call in help or demand reps when YOU raided. By having to call in help AND demanding reps for a raid you started, and then saying the aggrieved party should've done the diplomacy, you're looking like a stupid child. My advice? Either peace this out and apologize or stop airing your dirty laundry on the owf. Your choice. Ps I still <3 you canik

Sun have proven themselves to be good fighters this war. There are of course a few inactives and a few who don't know how to fight properly, but those exist in every alliance. I've enjoyed my fights with sun members more than those with legion and avalanch, because when I hit sun, they hit back, though I've only lost against zvesda.

Does winter wolves have a protector? I'm kinda hoping you dont, to be honest.

UmB declared war through the alpha wolves DoW. I can see you're not a fan of it, but that doesn't change what it was; a DoW. Most people don't like getting hit, I'm not surprised that you fall in that category. If you ask Banned, he'd tell you he won't turn down a request to oA without a serious reason. Goodluck out there, try to have fun, and fight the good fight AGW.

Welcome to the frey, AGW. Goodluck, and have fun. o7 SLAP o7 AGW Overlords

More than likely, yes. But as I'm not govt, I can't confirm that, but that's typically how it goes. Drag the fight on until the other side, even in a curb stomp, has had enough and wants peace. Then they'll approach and offer white peace.

When the alliance isn't willing to fight for their selves and beg for terms 4 days in, it comes up to these kinds of terms. I don't agree with them at all, but I place the fault in oot's hands, not the coalition. And I fo admit I have some bias, being a part of slap, but they should really have had more resolve, because they didn't this is the outcome

I'll be out of anarchy on the 15th to say hi to some buddies in sun. Goodluck, but not too much, because we want to win still. o/ sun o/ SLAP

We're on opposing sides fen, but all the same you know I respect you, and this is why. Even in the face of a curb stomp you won't leave your allies hanging. Good luck to all involved with this one. o/

Agree entirely. But they seem to have no backbone. I respect the oot nations.I fought who were willing to actually throw down. Best of luck to them in the future.

I vote the Ojwardsc war. <3

It has my name it it, so I like it. O7 stone and the A-Team, and best of luck to kindle and rukunu.

You haven't even gone through an entire round of war. You're not going to ve given peace that quickly. I've been critiquing your guys as we've been fighting, I've given you guides, and done everything I can to help you prevent this from repeating in the future. You really shouldn't be rushing into surrendering 3 days after you got hit.

o/ DK o/ NADC Time for beer.

Maybe you forgot about TOP and co? We had treaties with most of these AAs since our inception. DT, DBDC, NG, and so on. We only have a couple real new treaties. This is taking DS into account as well, obviously. So no, at the time we didn't, and we still don't.

Bad troll is bad. At least, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're a troll.

Glad to see this posted o/ Atlas o/ DoomKingdom