Sniper Joe

Momentum told me to hail this and I like the people involved so woo

That was pretty insensitive.

It's true. Ai just wanted to be our friend, but we stole their lollypop and wouldn't let them join in any of our reindeer games.

There is a positive correlation between the length of the thread and my thoughts of "Oh my god who gives a fuck this is dumb"

The blue line just entered the stratosphere. Soon it will conquer the galaxy.

Guys I made a graph too

Keep your head down, learn how stuff works, and generally act like an intelligent human being and you will be treated as such.

Methax for Godking of CN

This is fantastic. I always knew GOONS were morbidly obese Asian children.

Is that why you just keep ignoring the fact that a very large part of Umbrella's NS losses are from people messing around on other AAs and that Umbrella is actually doing fairly well? Because it goes against your petulant agenda and makes you look stupid for creating this thread without doing the slightest bit of actual research into the subject? Please note that responding with "not in the top 10" or saying something about the number of nations in anarchy will make you look even dumber than you already do.

There was no state of war prior to Ai & friends' declaration. Regardless of what Umbrella did, that's all that matters. Was Umbrella at war with NPO or NG when they sent aid to GOD a while back, since the action was provocative? No. There was no war, because neither alliance declared war on Umbrella. What are you even trying to accomplish here? I don't see what you have to gain by trying to weave this web of bullshit and I think you're smart enough to not actually believe it.

Congrats on getting the first surrender VE.

Happy birthday and well said.

I'm jealous.

Welcome to the fray comrades.

Congrats to Lion on his promotion and to Balder on well deserved freedom.

Oh man, this is awesome.

Man, this is some ka-razy stuff!

[quote name='DeathAdder' timestamp='1358210727' post='3076461'] Seems rather fishy to me. I must also join some of the others and say I really don't see what major difference the supposed logs made, and it does sound like you're just throwing someone under the bus, for logs that can be easily questioned, and even more easily doctored by nothing more than an amateur at Photoshop. As a side note, someone who has been accused of disliking the accused in question is hardly a good source of unbiased information. [/quote] If any of you think I would throw one of my closest friends under the bus for some kind of political gain or whatever else then you know nothing about me and are dead wrong. We all love Chax. This is not something we want to happen or enjoy. We announced this because it was already out there and this allows us to prevent people with an agenda against us to frame things however they wish.

We don't need to go through all this if we wanted to coup anyone...someone who Chax doesn't even get along with all that well owns the forums and everything.

[quote name='Brehon' timestamp='1358204713' post='3076400'] VE and I were in the same club... damn *someone has to put some kind of humor in here* [/quote] I am a passionate young man, full of love and venom. To add on to what Chax said above...I meant everything I said in the OP. This guy is one of the greatest friends I've ever had and one of the coolest people I've ever met. I hate this more than probably anyone besides him. I'm just trying to determine the truth and do the right thing for my alliance. As soap opera-esque as CN can be, this is not me being machiavellian. I wish it was. If I came up with this on my own I'd be a goddamn genius.

[quote name='magicninja' timestamp='1358201867' post='3076375'] It's not like Chax is pro-cng and sniperjoe was a member of a long time ally of VE or anything... But yes I question this whole thing as details still have not been given though has been requested by interested and now directly involved parties to no avail...... You say it was to show allies of Chax's misdeeds yet VE have been the only ones who seem to care so much. You have alterior motives gentlemen or is it just seeming to go ever more in that direction? [/quote] Ask VE how long I hated their guts and !@#$ all over them while I was in GOD. [quote name='Land of True Israel' timestamp='1358201134' post='3076359'] Might as well pin it all on a single member to escape collective responsibility for betraying a good ally. Classy move. [/quote] [13:36] <@SniperJoe> I'm waiting for people to start saying we made this up to save face.

[quote name='magicninja' timestamp='1358197805' post='3076313'] Like I said earlier I don't see why he changed anything when they both still tell the same story. What agenda? That hasn't been mentioned. I still don't see what big deception was created. [/quote] Nobody knows, as has been said. It's kind of irrelevant, the proof is there. As has also been said.

[quote name='darkfox' timestamp='1358197270' post='3076306'] Internal matter posted in the public before even talking to the rest of the government. Brilliant. [/quote] As I told you on IRC, this was about to leak and it's better for us to reveal it then allow for spin.

[quote name='Daimos' timestamp='1358196002' post='3076287']Why would Chax post fabricated logs in public intentionally?[/quote] Nobody knows. That's part of the reason why this is so distressing. I don't see how any of this leaves much room for interpretation; it's clear that NEW didn't force our hand as we previously thought and that he lied about it. The rest is window dressing. [quote name='D34th' timestamp='1358196130' post='3076290'] First of all congratulations to Robster, I know how is hard to have everyone against you on this boards, I saw you fought the good fight and won, cheers! So after all NEW aided Kaskus just as a retaliation for Shangri-la aid fall to NSO, there were no master plans to cause a global war, just a friend help another friend in time of need, and before the "But they don't have a treaty!" arguments begin remember that based in the Moldavi doctrine, created by the alliance who is one of the protagonists of this stupid war, you don't need a treaty to intervene in another conflict. Now, with everything clarified is BFF and INT resigning the treaties they canceled because Chax manipulated the information? I (can only) hope so. [/quote] This is not a game changer. NEW endangered us without talking to us. The cancellation remains in place. [quote name='magicninja' timestamp='1358196160' post='3076291'] I haven'trusted VE in years. SniperJoe could be making a power play. Who the hell is Robster anyway? [/quote] Your tinfoil hat is cutting off the circulation to your brain.