Asriel Belacqua

No. I am a cranky old man who has nothing better to do in this game than find things to yell at. So, you young whipper-snapper, GET OFF MY LAWN!

OH YEAH AETERNOS ASTRAMORA?! YEAH?!?! REALLY?!?! YOU KNOW WHAT I THINK???? I THINK YOU SHOULD BRING IT! *insert propaganda**insert propaganda**insert propaganda**insert propaganda**insert propaganda**insert propaganda**insert propaganda**insert propaganda**insert propaganda**insert propaganda**insert propaganda**insert propaganda**insert propaganda**insert propaganda**insert propaganda**insert propaganda**insert propaganda* Yeah. That's what I thought. Also, NO U! Just in case I don't come back to reply early enough. Also, voted Don't care to the want to win, and Mutual Destruction with no clear victor.

I am just wondering about this part of this (and please do not take this as trolling, it is simply a question that you don't even have to answer), but it appears as though you are saying that you are cancelling this treaty, not because you aren't still friends, but because it's basically bad politics. I understand that politics is something that must be played well on Bob, but I fear that friendship is becoming an increasingly hard thing to find here as well, and friends are the ones who will always have your back, and should, regardless of politics. Maybe I'm just a bit old fashioned though and come from times that have long been gone.

My sentiments exactly.

Ah, ok, and I agree, it would be ridiculous to not sign a treaty with a friend over something like that. That is not what I meant. Anyway, I think we're just passing the ball back and forth on the same court repeating things now. xD

Sorry if you mistook my post as getting huffy, I was just wondering. It was more of a "did NSO add this in just to make things clear, did IRON add it in to make sure, or is it just there just because?" type question than a "lul NSO and IRON adding in things they consider useless and I'm laughing" type question.

I guess that's true. Either way, forgot to give my obligatory SITH ARE EVIL BLAAARRGH so there it is. NSO rox mah sox, just saying.

Not to be rude or anything... but I thought NSO didn't like Optional Aggression/Optional Defense clauses because of the rule that you can attack/defend against/for anything/anyone you want at any time for any reason?

To the Admin, I may have complained at times about things you put in, but I am still here. I may have complained about things that have not been put in, but I am still here. I don't think I have complained to you much, and if I have, I apologize, though know that we (the players) do it because we love this game, not hate it. Thank you for giving me a reason to play a game longer than I've played any other strictly online game, a game that has absorbed 1,221 days, or 3 and 1/3 years, or 19% of my lifespan (though a lot less realistically since I don't spend 24 hrs a day on here).

You'll find many people share your opinion. Even those currently in alliances. That is why a lot of people don't simply stay in the first alliance they find, or the first one to send them a message. It's also the reason I started a micro-alliance, got a few friends of mine to join, and we basically "chill" in there all the time. It's not that hard to be accepted in this community. With over 25,000 people, sure, there will be those who don't like you or what you have to say, but there will also be those who will agree 100% with you. Never underestimate how many people play this game and how much their views are different, and the same.

The man does make a point. Now, yes, granted, you do have to take his point with a grain of salt because he is in ADI, however, you do have to take things such as this into account when you are analyzing situations such as this. I'd say his post, and his reasoning were a bit biased, considering his position, and he does have a reason to defend that of his fellow alliance-mate, so, now, what we need to do, is have someone analyze Hoo's response the same way he did, in as many different possible ways as possible and determine which sounds more reasonable. The results would, of course, also be unable to be fully trusted, since it is biased people coming to conclusions based on biased reasoning, however I think we'd be closer to the answer than we are now. Currently nobody really knows except for Hoo and WarBuck. You can assume what you want, and think what you want, but in reality, unless someone else has been told by both parties, no one else knows.

Aye, I get that he is upset, and that he is probably a good guy, and I am sorry for coming so harshly on him and the others, it seems we all need to step away from this whole situation for a bit and look on it after a bit of self reflection, which is what I have just done.

He really is trying to ask them. I would happen to know because I'm in 4 different IRC channels with him and discussing this very topic (including the one where he's asking them) in said channels. Again, nice try to you too. Also, it would help me feel sympathetic to your side if you weren't being such an $@!. Just saying.

It is a suitable reason to contact another alliance, this I am not arguing. I am not really arguing anything. Heck, I'm not even on a specific side as of this moment. I am simply repeating a question that could determine a lot, in my opinion, about this whole situation.

Was going to ask the question, and therefore contribute, but Ninten beat me to it. Plus, I think it's probably refreshing if people see my post and think "yeah, this guy's not contributing either" because pretty much no one is. I did not choose how he worded the question, he worded the question that way, I was simply repeating the manner in which he worded it to be consistent with him. Try again.

I believe that's what he's doing right now. Do we know where to find them? No. Are you being helpful at all? No. Should you shut up unless you're going to contribute? Probably, because otherwise you look like an $@!. Also, just a thought... only a minor one mind you... Contributing to the conversation is fun, you should try it. See my response above, and no, I don't think his problem is that they went to Athens, I believe he is wondering if they did go to Athens at all, since there is no reason to.

I saw the DoW.... and my heart rejoiced. I saw the disbandment, and you broke that heart. Sad to see you go guys.

He is still there. Look up "Lord Chozo." He hasn't left. Also, this. IIRC there are well over 100 former NAAC members still around on CN under various names and in various alliances. Also a lot of the former NAAC members are still in contact with even the ones who are no longer on Planet Bob. Also this as well.

Except the ones that never had a real sense of identity, or were ever really anything. How can something greater than it's former incarnation be a shell of that former incarnation? Otherwise, I would agree. There are some cases where a revival is fine, but definitely not when 99.99% of the community calls for it to remain dead.

Officially Browncoats has no set number for tech raiding, it instead has to get approved through the Minister of Defense. That is because numbers are merely, like someone else pointed out, trying to prove you have morals and principles when in reality you really don't. I would like to brag a bit though about us 'coats. Even though we allow tech raiding, to this date not a single member has Tech Raided another nation, nor have they expressed an interest in it. Why does this please me? Because I do not like tech raiding personally.

I am going to agree with Lord Chozo on all of his most excellent post. I am one of those few who has been granted permission by Holyone and other NAACers to float on and off of the AA and help keep it alive. It has never died. Not a day has gone by where the NAAC AA was empty. With that said, the NAAC never died. The formal agreement died. The community spread out and, for the most part, left the AA, but the spirit of the NAAC never died, and neither did the AA. To those saying the NAAC stabbed people in the back: Shame on you. Learn your history. The NAAC was back-stabbed by it's allies yet still stood by them, and gave a greater fight than most of her allies did even though they were back-stabbed. Greenland Republic is a good representation of the honour that the NAAC had, even if they still don't even come close to the same amount of glory. To Jack: Best of luck to you mate. I hope you grow some balls. If you don't... well.. You'll be floating in peace mode for a lot longer than Lord Chozo has been, and he has a good reason (which isn't cowardice) for that.

I am going to agree with this man here. If your goal, as an alliance, is basically live through all troubles, keep living, and... well.. keep living, then you are a successful alliance as long as more than 1 person is with you. This is an idea that has kept my alliance going, even though we aren't large (and get a lot of bad rep from Browncoats 1.0). We, as a community have said our goal is to stay together. Therefore we are successful (though we're not on red, I'm merely demonstrating a point) in our own minds. With that in mind, many red-team alliances have been successful so far, including the Cult of Justitia.

I have to agree with Airme here on the facedesking point. The only nation currently residing under the National Alliance of Arctic Countries alliance affiliation that I recognize as an actual nation of the NAAC is Moonwalkista, lead by Lord Chozo. Also, FAN is still at war with the NAAC, which I give them much <3 for because they, judging by this thread, are the only ones besides former NAACers who hold any respect for that alliance any more. Jack Diorno, you sadden me. Your silly antics have gone too far before, and they are going too far now. Just letting you know.

I'm right there with you. Never had a nuke until about... 11 days ago and my nation is now 1,188 days old So, I basically beat you, or lost to you, by 11 days. Sad.