All the wright moves

didnt MHA lose the most score?

When i first saw this i was a bit disappointed. If it was me i wud stay in until i the alliances that i entered to protect were out. However, any1 who gives nearly a third of their NS to protect an ally cant get toooo much flak in my book. Not the move i would have made, but understandable. U guys get a B- maybe a B in my book.

[quote name='Natan' timestamp='1296414742' post='2611330'] I don't often keep track of our stats, but I find it highly unlikely our ANS was ever 140 million.[/quote] Your right i dont think it ever got that low

how about the "holy war of the Orders."

I don’t get what the discussion in this thread is about. DH attacked NPO basically because they don’t like them. Now every1 has to decide whether a world where that is accepted is one that they want to live in. If the answer is no there is only one option. DH has declared without CB, Sparta has declared without a treaty, there is the moldavi doctrine. If you do not believe in the doctrine might makes right you have to stand up. Your alliances have the ability to fight, it is whether or not the members want them to. If you oppose this, the time to fight is now. DH and co. will only get stronger once NPO is gone. And then when they come after you, and there is no one left to stand up for you you will think back to this day. Decision time is here. Will you fight this injustice, or will you let it stand?

good show KoH and good luck

[quote name='goldielax25' timestamp='1295803824' post='2594006'] I like the play on the phrase, and I think the sig is well made, but damn, PC is pot committed on NpO and being countered by much larger alliances, and has only lost 80k NS (roughly a quarter-point of score) in the almost a week since they started. Hardly the sign of anything being rolled, 'cept the few remaining doubters in PC's ability to just bring it in war. [/quote] Yeah but in the past 6 days PC has had almost 900k NS join them. That means that really they lost almost 1 million NS. Also close to 1.3 mil NS is in peace mode. That means that out of their 4.1 mil NS at the start, 2.8 million was subject to attacks. Of that 2.8 mil, 1 million was destroyed.

So it was a setup. Its truly a shame to see that the world has not changed since karma.

glad to see this finally. Hails all around.

[quote name='Kn1nJa' timestamp='1295563207' post='2587286'] I missed the part where UINE included Hydra in the DoW. So why then do we have 4 wars and counting? Post a DoW for us already UINE! [/quote] Its probably just "old target lists"

[quote name='SirWilliam' timestamp='1295556934' post='2587091'] I understand fully the circumstances here, pertaining specifically to NpO’s request to RoK and the latter’s resultant activation of their MDoAP. RoK followed the [i]letter[/i] of their treaty with Polar. My point has been that this has seemingly been at the expense of following the [i]spirit[/i] of their SuperFriends treaty (where, MADPed, you ride as one). I find it extremely difficult to believe that RoK didn’t anticipate GOD backing their MDAP partner (VE) and their side, and by extension find it difficult to believe that RoK didn't anticipate backing NpO would result in fighting opposite fellow SuperFriends (albeit on different fronts). So although I can empathize with the tough position RoK was and is in, I nonetheless find their entrance in this war on Polar’s behalf in poor harm. [/quote] I dont think GOD has a MDAP with VE, they entered with R&R as part of their Superfriends treaty. But since apparently RoK told all their treaty partners that they were defending Polar 48 hours in advance, it seems like R&R and GOD declared knowing they would be fighting on the opposite of RoK. Anyways o/ RoK, have a good war!

[quote name='welshgazza1992' timestamp='1295480228' post='2584427'] o/ Ragnarok... [url="http://i.imagefra.me/c32hyuez.png"][img]http://i.imagefra.me/c32hyuez.png[/img][/url] [/quote] Why is this in the topic of VE-Polar Propaganda, unless... hmm

[quote name='Van Hoo III' timestamp='1295395711' post='2582301'] Sorry. I put my name on a MDoAP, and I at least intend to honor it. I'm not sure how that merits loss of respect. To each his own, I guess ... [/quote] there needs to be more ppl who act like this. You have earned my respect.

[quote name='SpiderJerusalem' timestamp='1295216156' post='2577740'] I am saddened however, by Bob Janova and others that have had their community destroyed by NPO, and still can't bring themselves to understand what they are doing here. Never again NPO, never again [/quote] I sincerely hope that this was a joke. The only thing that has happened here is that a MK member has went rouge on NPO, with the support of MK. Then a MK member attacks and messes up the stagger. The rouge member is still masked as a knight on the forums for whatever reason. Finally, the nation has received 3 packets of secret foreign aid, i wonder who that cud be from? NPO isnt the ones here who are destroying community.

the biggest negative here is that now planet bob has under 20k nations

[quote name='Voytek' timestamp='1295184692' post='2577089'] prolly yea.. makes u think. like about cycles and circles and things. imo. [/quote] Its only a cycle if u r as bad as the people u replace. Otherwise, the cycle gets broken.

[quote name='Bob Janova' timestamp='1295183534' post='2577078'] MK are getting quite close to endorsing the actions of a rogue in this thread, particularly the deliberate breaking of a stagger. (Though NPO could have avoided that by not declaring two wars in the first two hours of the day.) That's something which non-Hegemony alliances had to suffer back in the bad old days and it's not something we want to see come back. And I hope the Aqua Senate doesn't start treating nuclear rogues differently depending on their target. [/quote] This is pretty much my sentiments exactly. MK are becoming wat karma fought against. I wonder if someday another karma coalition will form to take down MK. "Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely." Also on a side note isn't war slot filling against the rules?

[quote name='rtellez06' timestamp='1295075910' post='2575876'] There is plenty to see through. You are once again trying to trash LoSS's name. The title of the topic says "an alliance belives in stealing money." Let me show you something. RTellez06 =/= LoSS. I am not in LoSS gov, nor do I speak for an alliance of almost 300 members. Also, once again, I told you up front not to send any of our members aid because you are not welcome to do tech deals with our members. Remember? Of course you do, because you asked what if you did, and I told you not to because it would be free aid.[/quote] Wait, if ur saying that u dont speak for LoSS how can u prohibit LoSS members from doing tech deals with Krunk? Also if, like u say u dont speak for LoSS, then not doing tech deals with Krunk isnt LoSS policy, its just some random guy in LoSS's policy.

[quote name='Banksy' timestamp='1295051100' post='2575528'] I can't for the life of me read anything in that pic. How do I enlarge it [ooc]from the imageshack webpage? [yes, i did click on the thumbnail, i'm not [i]that[/i] dumb]. [/ooc] [/quote] [ooc] try right clicking on the picture and pressing view image. a magnify glass shud then show up in the new window and u shud be set. [/ooc]

I might have missed something here, but even if we assume that this Uq Lee person is a friend of Krunk who he sent to spy on lost (not saying he is but let just speculate), how does that change the fact that rtellez06 told him to scam Krunk out of his tech? Im pretty sure every1 believes rtellez06 is an actual member of loss.

Well i don't know all that has happened, but from what i heard we have been betrayed. It is really a shame, i felt for u guys when u were fighting the gRAMlins, as a genuinely respected u. No longer. I think this sums up my feelings on this "Then you should have died! Died, rather than betray your friends, as we would have done for you!" Stay classy my friends.

[quote name='Pryath' timestamp='1281505350' post='2410878'] Well I mean for one its a game. Two...well the US judicial system isn't regulated by who has the STRONGER show of force. I mean really any alliance can go to war and crush their opponents. Whats to say they need any reason whatsoever? Three the people who play CN aren't just US citizens, it's kind of idiotic to bind those people to the US judicial system Four we're nations not people I think thats good enough P.S. Griff is about to join you in the 4.5k NS and below club sed! Now he can be just like you =D [/quote] 1. yeah its just a game but i think many people still take it very seriously. 2. Yeah i am not gonna argue that i am just saying the NSO isn't at fault, personally I'd be fine if RoK just said we r bored, and declared war. As long as they dont hide behind this manufactured CB. 3.I know that the people aren't just US citizens but i wud bet a majority are, and the US justice system is widely considered the best in the world so i thought would be appropriate to use in assessing guilt. 4. Yeah we are nations but a crime is still a crime.

yes i am sedrick is a nation accused of a crime just as a us citizen on trial is a person accused of a crime, it is very similar, obviously not perfect but what is. Also please try to respond to specific points and why u disagree.

My two cents: I am a us citizen so i am gonna use the us justice system in this analogy. The prosecution, the party trying to assess guilt and cause the individual to be punished, in this situation RoK, has to prove that the defendant, sedrick, is guilty. They have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt, after all innocent before proven guilty. So in this case before the judge, the NSO, can announce the defendant guilty and deliver or open him up to punishment. Simply put the accuser has to prove guilt, meaning RoK has to prove that sedrick was guilty. Without that proof the NSO has to protect its member. If RoK proved guilt then thats different, but it is RoK's job to prove the guilt. You know i actually find this whole situation rather sad. I played with the Ravyns around a year ago and had great respect for RoK and some of their allies, sadly that is gone. Just one last note to finish off with, all great powers fall. That is inevitable. The thing that determines how far the fall is how they acted at the height of their power. NPO acted poorly at the height of their power and they fell far. I think that RoK and their allies will fall far farther.

WRC is weapons research complex, it is a wonder that doubles the damage that tech does in wars.