Timmmehhh

[quote name='JoshuaR' timestamp='1295042725' post='2575373'] I find the chatter about how MFO is lucky this wasn't worse or that it wouldn't have happened had it been another alliance amusing. Even in this instance, FAN is lucky to be alive. In general I'm all for aggressive diplomacy, but with such an aggressive defense including some thirty war declarations affecting a great deal more than the original perpetrator, it can no longer be classified as an aggressive action. Luckily I like FAN and am pretty busy. [/quote]FAN is lucky to be alive? How on earth were you planning to kill them? FAN has 3000 nukes and some solid friends too.

[quote name='Rotavele' timestamp='1294983444' post='2574731'] Well FAN had a good run this time, See ya later buddies. [/quote] You have no idea. FAN has some good friends who would back them up if this goes global.

As a fan of both alliances I find this very unfortunate

[quote name='flak attack' timestamp='1294347343' post='2566201'] His target selection during the TOP war would imply such to me. [/quote] He was the first who DOW'ed Liquidmercury so he certainly isn't a coward.

[quote name='Penkala' timestamp='1293641820' post='2557389'] Who started sending people onto the AA first? [/quote] Hmm no-one did send people over. I was one of the first high tier nations to join and I was more like "Hmm I am going to defend NEW, like I told them I would". And after that more nations made the same decision. Believe it or not but it wasn't some plan to send people over. After the attack many nations felt bad for NEW and decided to help them.

[quote name='Haflinger' timestamp='1293643573' post='2557411'] Hundreds of nations joined Vox after they declared war on GGA and Valhalla. [/quote] Those were mostly insignificant nations who weren't able to much damage. Lots of re-rolls and so on.

Good to see peace. It was really nice to fight alongside my friends in NEW. I want to thanks seanvdb, Kiwimike, Zombonia and cmdrChobo for the cool battles we had, may your rebuilding be swift. Although you couldn't really hurt me much I was impressed by the activity, the level of coordination, the staggers, and the target selection by both Fark and NEW in general. They really fought well this war. My thanks go to Fark for the effort they put in to archive peace, it is really appreciated, thanks! Hopefully next time we fight side by side again

[quote name='Penkala' timestamp='1293476116' post='2555381'] A good example would probably be when Sparta stood with us during Karma even when it looked like we'd be curbstomped... [/quote] The best example of Sparta support would probably be in the second Unjust war. In this war they did a good job fighting TOP and IRON. They went in that war not really sure who could win it. NpO side was winning before the preemptive strike happened. After that that it became kinda one sided because several alliances like Genesis, NpO, STA, Nueva Vidia, 1 touch football and Carpe Diem peaced out their wars and ended up on the other side. While alliances like UPN and GLOF who were fighting for the NpO side went neutral after that attack.

[quote]Some facts people don't know, and I can give one example. When Athens had the KoN incident we were ready to defend them, even knowing that they would be rolled.[/quote] Given the treaties Athens had at the time I am fairly sure the alliances who tried rolling Athens over that incident would get rolled themselves. This is why NpO decided not to attack Athens but decided to jump on a smaller less connected alliance like \m/ instead. This is not really supporting an ally who was about to get rolled by a larger coalition because it wouldn't have happened that way. Even my former alliance (FOK) would have supported Athens and they weren't even allies with them. I don't dislike you guys or anything and I am not saying you guys would never defend an ally in difficult circumstances I am just pointing out that this is not a good example.

sign us up, we are never take orders. An alliance with raiders from CN standard.

[quote name='Cataduanes' timestamp='1293230821' post='2552971'] Totally agree with this, volunteers joining up in a war is not exactly a new thing In CN...it has happened on countless occasions. I for one do not consider any such volunteers rogues and so on, they are individuals following their instincts and putting their pixels on the line for what they believe in... [center]Volunteers of the NEW, FARK and anyone else: I Salute you.[/center] [/quote] Still love you Cata

Happy birthday Umbrella Ella Ella

[quote name='Hyperion321' timestamp='1293227965' post='2552939'] Because Fark really expected PC to take advantage of their kindness right? This is underhanded manipulation of an agreement in good faith, and these rogues will be beaten to a pulp for it. [/quote] We are not "rogues" we are people who were friends with NEW and who decided join them because they needed help. Every nation who joined NEW is in it on their own accord and decided for themselves if they wanted to join NEW. There is no conspiracy here or plan from any PB alliance to bring nations over to NEW.

[quote name='LeonidasRexII' timestamp='1293076797' post='2551003'] Even if PC/iFOK isn't sending them then they don't have control over or the support of several of their top nations. You said that it's not a conspiracy, but let's see what the count is now to get a clear picture of what's going on. [u] NEW reinforcements[/u] PC - 6 nations FOK - 3 iFOK - 2, including a former Trium WTF - 1 Liberation Army - 1 That's 8 nations that were either sent or mutinied from iFOK/PC including some former government. To me that's the tip of a big problem in PBland. [/quote] Your math is off, there is only 1 FOK nation who joined NEW and that's me, and i did it for my own reasons.

[quote name='King Wally' timestamp='1293083241' post='2551188'] I love Xi's honesty... you all would be the first ones to call GOD cowards if they didn't defend you from a war that you got dragged into because of the new MK/TOP relationship. Chaining or not you know its true... this way at least the lines are clear. o/ GOD [/quote]I Guess at least ROK can call them in when NoR, NpO or \M/ is ready to rumble. Talking about clean lines... .

They disbanded

[quote name='Dochartaigh' timestamp='1292986360' post='2549085'] so you mean what many others in PB have been doing? such as VE towards \m/ for example? yet again, all i see from PB is infra-huggers, status quo keepers, and hypocrites. [/quote] Damn you are such a lousy trash talker. All you do is talk, talk and talk, maybe you should actually declare war with this new alliance you are in. You must be really mad that iFOK and PC are preventing your alliance from a [url=http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=95980&view=findpost&p=2545800]bandwagon[/url] attempt in this war. Despite having friends and allies on the other side iFOK and PC are actually helping on the diplomacy front and individual iFOK and PC members are fighting alongside NEW. All you do is talk crap after you just hopped to a new alliance. Why is your new alliance not joining this conflict when they seem so interested in it ?

Reasonable stance but might a little bit premature. Who are the possible allies on the FARK side? Just LSF?

This is good stuff Congrats to TOP and our allies in MK.

[quote name='Daikos' timestamp='1292871508' post='2546805'] Please, tell me what Hydra has ever done that allows you to talk trash from an Ivory Tower? What's that? Nothing. Thought so. Well, seeing as how he is in The Dark Templar and isn't a .gov member I'd say that's what's preventing him. You know, silly things like alliance relations and diplomacy. Something NSO doesn't really understand. [/quote] I saw the leader of The Dark Templar claiming that he wished he could be on the battlefield too. http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=95980&view=findpost&p=2545800 Looks like his leadership isn't holding him back.

Never Take Orders supports the ceasefire. We are a new alliance.

Not very original, this has been done before.

[quote name='Myworld' timestamp='1292711646' post='2543141'] I hope NEW is ready to pay up. DT is protecting DF for the 30 days from when this was announced. [/quote] I hope it gets straightened out. But since everyone is doing it, I am protecting NEW against you

[quote name='Hyperion321' timestamp='1292705277' post='2542989'] You can't expect to roll a NOIR signatory and not attract a lot of !@#$ NEW. I thought you were smarter than this. [/quote] Darkfist disbanded and therefore all treaties are considered voided. It's somewhat a messy situation because Dark Fist didn't mentioned a protector in the announcement. But I know NEW and they are cool guys and are probably willing to peace out.

[quote name='Methrage' timestamp='1292382806' post='2539906'] Congrats to purple and all alliances involved, this seems to include most purple alliances and shows a great deal of unity on the sphere. I see iFOK signed this one as well, so it will be interesting to see how that effects FOK's relationship with other purple alliances. [/quote] I think our relationship with other purple alliances is like our relations with most alliances, mostly non-existent. I think that Legion, UPN and especially Invicta (or whats left of them) are terrible alliances. But on the other hand purple has some stronger alliances like Valhalla and BAPS who are pretty decent.