Timmmehhh

War is cool

[quote name='flak attack' timestamp='1304057706' post='2701808'] You know your alliance is in trouble when you have to make an announcement telling the world you still exist. [/quote]Was thinking the same. \m/ just disband already.

Very well written and I agree on all points. You are one of the few players who keeps the planet interesting. Also sorry for raiding you, Oinkoink12 went aggressive on my other targets and I couldn't hit him, so I needed to dump some troops on you in order to hit him.

Hmm I can now raid the top nations of Thriller. Londo is kinda a good guy though, and WickedJ is out of range.

[quote name='AndrewHG' timestamp='1302999803' post='2691718'] You can have 33% of my debts as reps then [/quote] I rather have your tech

[quote name='Timberland' timestamp='1302995700' post='2691680'] we have all their wc info no need to [/quote] Yeah they are pretty much all billocked except like 5 or so.

Awesome, would love to see the R&R flag in CN.

Shame to see this, especially given the fact that VE and PB have fought many wars together with RIA and SF as a whole and we (PB) like SF a lot. It's not totally unexpected though with all the propaganda from our enemies which tries to portray VE and PB in a bad way. Needless to say, FOK will continue to support our allies in VE and PB. We might be unpopular and hated by many but we have each others backs and that is what's matters for me.

[QUOTE]Following Sardonic’s and Ardus’s impeccable logic, the New Pacific Order has followed in the footsteps of [b]iFOK[/b] and VE and declared war on NADC. Said Regent Brehon, “In an effort to start improving relations between Doomhouse and the Order, we thought we would declare war on NADC, since apparently that will make the war end faster.” [/QUOTE] Actually it's FOK and not iFOK who is in war with NADC and TSI http://www.cybernations.net/search_wars.asp?searchstring=Declaring_Alliance%2CReceiving_Alliance&search=FOK&anyallexact=exact iFOK has other plans.

Aesome idea, makes TE more fair for Europeans, I support

[quote name='Kajdav' timestamp='1301283404' post='2678775'] [url=http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u5/Kajdav/FOK.png]Numerical output.[/url] [/quote] We had 2 guys quitting after the NpO war, one guy was like 90k, so that explains our NS losses

I for one hope this front doesn't end soon. Activity is rising and our FOK forces are very enthusiastic about this war.

The war has been going on for more than 2 months and alliances on your side are surrendering, and you still haven't begun to fight? What kind of crazy strategy is this? Please could you explain me the Legion point of view ?

[quote name='LittleRena' timestamp='1301010401' post='2675254'] It would if there was no DoW after the terms, the idea was for signitors to reenter if there was a fresh DoW on an ally. [/quote] Thats one viewpoint. I believe these terms were made so that that they can defend when their allies get attacked in a new war unrelated to the NPO or NpO war. This war is part of the current conflict surrounding the NPO conflict. [quote] 2. The parties of NV, GLOF, WAPA, Colossus, Quantum, AB, CD, TFD, NATO, TNG, TPC, and DDM agree to not re-enter on any point in the current conflict surrounding NpO or NPO.[/quote]

Joking about MK we are? It's time for the PB cavalry to arrive

[quote name='welshgazza1992' timestamp='1300064317' post='2663760'] Yes. The sad thing is I knew they were going to do this before they did. What happened to the good old days of fighting a war, then shaking your opponent's hand amicably? [/quote] Hey you were the guys who were making such an issue about the wording. Don't be surprised when people will poke you for it.

Yawn, not Methrage again. Why are these announcement of two man AA's in Alliance politics anyway? If it was up to me they would have been moved to OWF.

A shame to see two longtime friends breaking up.

SF is actually a pretty cool and straightforward bunch. With the exception of ROK that is. R&R in particular are great people and I can't imagine not being allied to them. SF might have made some mistakes but overall they are solid and I am thankful for their help in this war.

Wow this was a dumb move, I see this ending really bad for your alliance when the war ends. Not only did you broke terms but you were the only alliance who NSO had in reserve, we can now easily pile on NSO without repercussion.

God this "you can't be forced to disband" stuff is getting annoying. Some people seem to think than when you say it often enough it might be true. It might be true now but it wasn't in the era with small warchests, no MHP's, no WRC's and with declaringranges between 50-100%. Back then when you fell out of 5% range you were game over because you couldn't buy any nukes. It was quite easily to destroy an alliance without taking much damage yourselves especially when you outnumbered your foe. If you didn't get terms the only option out was for alliances to disband or else most of the alliance would get deleted / destroyed because of the war. FAN was the exception to this, not the rule. They had a strong internal community (they played other games too) and their membership was willing to stay in peacemode and do nothing for two years in order not to disband. And yes, both NpO and NPO disbanded several alliances and communities. The coalition who attacked Polar during War of the coalition could have disbanded Polar or kept them in warmode for a year without taking much damage. (Polar had only a dozen MHP's at the time and only 1 WRC). They chose to give them a way out at the cost of harsh reps. Enemies of NpO like the real [M] and Genmay weren't that lucky. Nowadays the stronger alliances can't be forced to disband because of the war chests and all the MHP's they possess however it might still be possible with weaker ones like UPN.

Good to see peace. Congrats to CSN and our allies in R&R.

[quote name='Holy Ruler' timestamp='1298810278' post='2646099'] Actually we did fight on your side. No matter what the Haters say, we are sanctioned thanks to NpO. Thanks guys. [/quote] Thanks to the alliances fighting NpO. Congrats with the sanction. It's always good to have more flags ingame

My top 10, I am going to include those who reformed. 1. GOONS, this one is easy, they were very influential and even got a hold of the #1 spot. 2. NAAC, leader of AEGIS 3. LUE, important AEGIS alliance 4. \m/,quite influential. Known for their raiding and bling bling. 5. Nordreich WUT, Norway thing, commie wars 6. VE, WUT / Viricide 7. Genmay WUT / UJP , from their ashes Umbrella was born. 8. GGA, WUT / One Vision 9. VOX, ZOG's senaterun was epic, it was disappointing to see that they chose to disband when the fighting with NPO started. They made some decent propaganda though. 10. Atlantis, Their TPF rivalry was fun.

[quote name='Haflinger' timestamp='1298423734' post='2642205'] Wow... a year? Alright guys, if I haven't made myself clear before, yeah I'm over all that stupid drama from when you guys started & I wanted to roll you. [/quote] Lol like Invicta would be capable of effectively rolling anyone