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[quote name='HeroofTime55' timestamp='1281317019' post='2405761'] If there were any truth at all to this, then every single thread would not devolve into a discussion about NPO. But the fact is, it's all about NPO. NPO is the imaginary demon that SuperGrievances need. They need to keep pretending that there is some great evil, to keep up the lie that got them into power in the first place, and to perhaps provide a common enemy, to perhaps even subconsciously avoid the inevitable SF/CnG split. The fact is, NPO is staying as far away from politics as they can, and you can't even find something as flimsy as this to tag on them. After the Red Raiding Safari didn't work to goad NPO to war, this here was Plan B, find a flimsy excuse to attack their direct allies. NSO's policy of not taking crap from anyone played right into this trap. But NSO called the trap, and those parties have failed once again to force war upon the NPO. It is only made obvious from the nonstop goading in this thread. The focus is hardly on the flimsy reasons for war, it's all on labeling NPO and company cowards, or trying to deny that the goading is occurring. It's all really quite hilarious, how upset you all are that NPO once again isn't going to get rolled according to your plans. All you are left with is a terrible bit of PR as the reality of the situation rapidly makes itself apparent. [/quote] We have a winner. [quote name='Mr Damsky' timestamp='1281317270' post='2405774'] Are you stupid? GPA was neutral and did nothing wrong AND NPO DEDCLARED ON THEM. NSO was told not to aid the rogue and did it anyway [i]twice[/i]. If you feel so strongly about it have Pacifica DoW tonight. Unless of course you're afraid for your pixels that is. [/quote] Are you stupid? DeSouza is not the emperor of Pacifica is he? [quote name='Kevin McDonald' timestamp='1281317722' post='2405798'] Hoo, we`re calling them the Coalition of Cowards, we`re the ones conspiring, remember? [/quote] Awww, how original.

[quote name='Aurion' timestamp='1281315791' post='2405673'] You don't have to believe me if you don't want to, but we don't go into [i]every[/i] war with the intent of disbanding the entirety of the opposing forces. [/quote] Meh. Also, what is this thing about collecting tears? Not directed at GOD persay, but everyone in all these threads is mentioning tears and drinking them. Has it really been so long? I still have some tears from all of you when your alliances were stomped and/or (boo hoo) disbanded.

[quote name='kevin32891' timestamp='1281314064' post='2405520'] None because in the end we're going to still be here. [/quote] True. o/ NSO you bad sons of !@#$%*es

What a bunch of !@#$%*^. How many alliances does it take to kill NSO? Weak.

I remember picture wars with Joe and talking with slfr14 and many others. For a long time, GUN had the second most posts from me of any alliance. It is sad to see you go and I wish you all well.

[quote name='Freelancer' timestamp='1280708093' post='2397606'] hahahaha, I'm sorry, I just have so much trouble believing all of this, this has to be some kind of staged BS. [/quote] Admin knows Pacifica has no feelings or empathy for anyone. I fixed your spelling errors for you captain. Teeters, good luck and thank you.

[quote name='caligula' timestamp='1280704902' post='2397501'] Yeah, protecting them from a quicker death was really really classless. I'm sure you would've loved it if we held a MADP treaty with an alliance that recently committed suicide with no regard to how much effort our own alliance was using to prevent their suicide completing sooner than it did. Also, sup went [/quote] I like that the treaty was canceled. It would have actually been a good thing if it had been done a long time ago. Take the PR hit on canceling the eternal treaty and that's about it because the world understood your plight and thought holding on to it was stupid. MHA chose to do nothing. Now you ha two choices again: Cancel straight away and look foolish and opportunistic, or help them rebuild and heal and when they are back to being stable, reevaluate the issues. Long time no see Myth

[quote name='NoFish' timestamp='1280686153' post='2397233'] Actually, presuming that one-on-one treaty you posted is accurate, Sparta had no obligation to defend as "In the event a signatory should initiate conflict, the other may assist, but this is not required." Also, so Sparta as required to defend you during the cancellation clause period of Q, but you weren't required to uphold your end of the treaty with them during it? Sounds like a pretty weird treaty. [b]I don't know how many times I need to say this, but I'll repeat it once again, what the hell: Sparta was with us before we knew how the Karma War would turn out. They were with us when we still thought TOP would back NPO, before the CoC, and when we weren't even sure which way Gremlins would fall.[/b] [/quote] So Sparta was with your side while still a member of Q. A little fishy if you ask me.

What's the point of holding on when they can no longer help you financially and diplomatically amirite?

Not Ohio but close enough, though i will be working that day

[quote name='Hyperion321' timestamp='1280550396' post='2395717'] So now you are accusing us of spying. Awesome. [/quote] Not really guy, but whatever. I had a long response planned out but since you were debunked by my comrades and "are not coming back to this thread", there is no point. [quote name='Hyperion321' timestamp='1280612819' post='2396399'] If anyone ignored our treaty, it was you. You were obligated to tell us if you were going to engage in a war both in our individual treaty and in Q. You failed to do so knowing that we would have disapproved and probably canceled if no diplomatic solution could be carried out. You attacked without informing us thinking we would be locked on your side unable to help our friends. You violated both the spirit and the letter of our treaty the second you attacked OV. You. Betrayed. Us. [/quote] No, you betray yourselves. You are followers, content to forever suck on the teat of a master. Athens has your back and that is cool until the day comes where they are no longer in a power position (no slight at Athens, cyclical nature and all). Then where will you be? Which new master will you latch on to then? This is the point. Sparta is a joke, a flop, a failure of an alliance that has no identity. Your best members realize this and all will eventually leave, especially with the show your "king" is displaying. The truth hurts sometimes. And all the whining? Drink some concrete and harden the $%&@ up.

I was having a good time watching Gremlins slowly bleed to death, but congratulations nonetheless IRON and DAWN.

[quote name='Unholy' timestamp='1280546569' post='2395646'] Yes. We frequently deny the Karma war and events prior ever happened. Everyone has their own interpretations of history, doesn't mean they are different events. [b]Further, since our former government is just that, former, they don't exactly speak for us anymore.[/b] Apart from those, very minor, discrepancies. We ARE basically revisionist historians. [/quote] This just in, TrotskysRevenge is no longer Emperor of the New Pacific Order, therefore anything NPO may or may not have done during that time is henceforth irrelevant and pointless to bring up. Furthermore, "at least we are not as bad as NPO was/is" is no longer a convenient counter to any missteps or bunglings the new powers that be make since you know, former Emperor and all. [quote name='Hyperion321' timestamp='1280547542' post='2395667'] GOD was allied to OV via MADP. You attack OV, you attack GOD. You attack GOD, you attack Sparta. [b]Sticking by an alliance hoping things would get better rather than abandoning them immediately reflects poorly on our character? Sorry, next time we have some issues with an ally we'll drop right away them so you can insult us again for not trying to work our issues out. There's no winning with you people, so we don't even try anymore...and frankly, we don't care anymore either.[/b] Ah...the GtG quote. The intentionally misinterpreted gift that keeps on giving. We've talked this point to death 100 times (no seriously...we have), so if you want to do it again, hit our gov up on irc so we don't clog the forums...again. They attacked some of our closest friends and allies [i]while[/i] holding two MDoAP level treaties with us. You keep forgetting that. Had that mixed up. My bad. [/quote] Yeah right. Sparta "stuck by" Pacifica all that time to gather info plain and simple. GTG did nothing but !@#$%* and complain on the tC forums, never once did Sparta attempt to fix anything. [quote name='Lusitan' timestamp='1280548647' post='2395686'] They attacked an ally of an ally of yours. While it does, without doubt require the cancelation of your two treaties for the sheer disrespect of putting you in the position they did, I am pretty sure it doesn't grant the demonstration of lack of class that was to enact the oA clause of your MDoAP with GOD to actually declare war on the people that were supposedly your friends and were now being curbstomped by other 14 alliances. [/quote] They were butt hurt so there is your reason for the oA activation. Face it, Whilhelm I believe stated Sparta's goal is to spur activity for their membership and blah blah blah. How exactly? Seeing who can buy the most infra in ten minutes? Converting tech cost charts from dollars to pounds? And I swear I saw Whilhelm complain about no u arguments and then use a u mad. Get !@#$@#$ real.

Your post did not need a tl;dr. If you are too lazy to read a well written announcement like that then you shouldn't be here. Good luck with your new stuff.

Sith and Pacific, Comrade.

[quote name='sethb' timestamp='1279938946' post='2386882'] With a leader like 'BlkAK47_002' this is a huge surprise. [/quote] Wait, is this sarcasm? /goes to check my meter.

It's nice to see you both on Red, welcome! Jacapo has been eating sour grapes :/

My condolences to his friends and family. May Hans rest in peace.

Congratulations Red. Thank you for your service Millionaro and Brehon. And happy trails Lord Strider.

Congrats P&L.

Congrats NATO and Anu!

o/ NATO o/ Europa o/ BILLY MAYS

[quote name='Voytek' date='12 June 2010 - 12:27 AM' timestamp='1276320404' post='2334649'] You're too kind. What did I ever do to deserve such glowing praise? [/quote] It actually was a slight compliment, a tip of the hat. I enjoy when you post.

[quote name='Katsumi' date='12 June 2010 - 12:17 AM' timestamp='1276319831' post='2334632'] NPO will be our protectorate in two weeks. Or you're just taking an independent view to illogical extremes. (Hint: it's the latter) [/quote] Watch out for Voytek's poise and witty retorts. I hear they are masterful, Katsumi

[quote name='Alaric' date='08 June 2010 - 07:51 AM' timestamp='1276001469' post='2328768'] A great read! I enjoyed the interview with Bob Janova. And how can I get a toadstool pendant? [/quote] [img]http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/9274/photoshop37.png[/img] There you go, +5 pendant just for you. Tell your friends.