Bloc Statistics

[wickedj]

[quote]+75)[/quote]
Fark GL 4.0

@Stalk, heres a old bloc list that still has Q and 1V for comparison efforts http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/Bloc_stats

Edited June 12, 2010 by wickedj

[Captain Flinders]

Well if you're going to add Duckroll then you might as well add ODP blocs. As it was explained at the time, Duckroll isn't even a traditional ODP, but some kind of agreement to work militarily in sync.

[Pomiel]

[quote name='Captain Flinders' date='12 June 2010 - 04:59 AM' timestamp='1276333139' post='2334782']
Well if you're going to add Duckroll then you might as well add ODP blocs. As it was explained at the time, Duckroll isn't even a traditional ODP, but some kind of agreement to work militarily in sync.
[/quote]

Duckroll stays. No ODPs. Final decision.

Why?
Duckroll is one military unit. That's how it's been defined. That's how the treaty reads. As such I'll maintain the statistics of the entire unit in this thread, since it is not available any where else. ODPs on the other hand are not a single military unit. It's unpredictable which alliances will actually honor it, no alliance is guaranteed to participate.

The "we've fought wars together" argument for ODPs shows that in some cases, some alliances may help each other, but me saying that an ODP bloc has X nukes is completely false if four of seven alliances decide they don't wish to honor the bloc.

Also, I never suggested that Duckroll was an ODP.

Added Commentary and updated Notes above: http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=87349&view=findpost&p=2334657

Edited June 12, 2010 by Pomiel

[Banksy]

Duckroll isn't a bloc, it says so in the treaty~

But good call on not including ODPs.

[Captain Flinders]

[quote name='Pomiel' date='12 June 2010 - 04:09 AM' timestamp='1276337346' post='2334809']
Duckroll is one military unit. That's how it's been defined. That's how the treaty reads. As such I'll maintain the statistics of the entire unit in this thread, since it is not available any where else. ODPs on the other hand are not a single military unit. It's unpredictable which alliances will actually honor it, no alliance is guaranteed to participate.
[/quote]

[quote=Duckroll]Article II: Wartime Cooperation

In times of war, military operations of the signatories will be centralized, with the signatories most efficiently sharing war duties with each other in order to maximize damage given. [b]This is not required by this document[/b], it is simply what we do.[/quote]

Sounds just as "unpredictable" as an ODP. Actually, it sounds exactly like an ODP with slightly different wording. All military partners centralize a lot of their military operations during war time. At least if they're doing it right they are. But hey, it's your thread, do with it as you please. I'm just pointing out that your logic for who stays and who goes isn't all that sound.

[Grumpdogg]

Nice stats, I wish you luck in maintaining this!

I fear the number of alliances in multiple blocs make a lot of these stats kinda meaningless.

[Pomiel]

1 [1,338] [color=green](+8)[/color] [color=red][b]The SuperFriends[/b][/color] : 124.99--> 125.32 [color=green](+0.33)[/color]
Strength:32,249,995 ([i]24,103.14[/i])
Total WRC: 188 Total Tech: 1,849,988 Total Nukes: 8,165

2 [938] [color=red](-5)[/color] [color=red][b]Complaints and Grievances Union[/b][/color] : 95.46--> 95.42 [color=red](-0.03)[/color]
Strength:24,881,351 ([i]26,525.96[/i])
Total WRC: 207 Total Tech: 1,453,638 Total Nukes: 7,198

3 [677] [color=green](+1)[/color] [color=blue][b]Chestnut Accords[/b][/color] : 73.87--> 74 [color=green](+0.13)[/color]
Strength:19,495,578 ([i]28,797.01[/i])
Total WRC: 99 Total Tech: 1,030,243 Total Nukes: 4,991

4 [733] [color=green](+3)[/color] [color=blue][b]Bastion[/b][/color] : 71.62--> 71.76 [color=green](+0.15)[/color]
Strength:18,600,893 ([i]25,376.39[/i])
Total WRC: 97 Total Tech: 966,911 Total Nukes: 4,888

5 [727] [color=red](-4)[/color] [color=green][b]League of Extraordinary Oranges[/b][/color] : 63.77--> 63.84 [color=green](+0.07)[/color]
Strength:16,245,944 ([i]22,346.55[/i])
Total WRC: 93 Total Tech: 929,910 Total Nukes: 4,431

6 [343] (0.00) [color=red][b]AZTEC Treaty[/b][/color] : 41.86--> 41.93 [color=green](+0.08)[/color]
Strength:11,210,352 ([i]32,683.24[/i])
Total WRC: 58 Total Tech: 607,621 Total Nukes: 2,496

7 [674] [color=red](-1)[/color] [color=green][b]Common Defense Treaty[/b][/color] : 41.64--> 41.73 [color=green](+0.10)[/color]
Strength:9,828,870 ([i]14,582.89[/i])
Total WRC: 31 Total Tech: 459,405 Total Nukes: 1,618

8 [434] [color=green](+1)[/color] [color=grey][b]Peace and Love Train Accords[/b][/color] : 40.09--> 40.18 [color=green](+0.09)[/color]
Strength:10,320,524 ([i]23,780.01[/i])
Total WRC: 49 Total Tech: 557,353 Total Nukes: 2,369

9 [471] [color=red](-1)[/color] [color=grey][b]Duckroll[/b][/color] : 36.78--> 36.86 [color=green](+0.08)[/color]
Strength:9,178,900 ([i]19,488.11[/i])
Total WRC: 108 Total Tech: 574,138 Total Nukes: 2,844

10 [375] (0.00) [color=green][b]Peace and Love Train Accords (Engineers)[/b][/color] : 36.56--> 36.64 [color=green](+0.08)[/color]
Strength:9,493,539 ([i]25,316.10[/i])
Total WRC: 49 Total Tech: 522,407 Total Nukes: 2,303

11 [449] [color=red](-7)[/color] [color=green][b]The Iron Curtain[/b][/color] : 34.2--> 34.09 [color=red](-0.10)[/color]
Strength:8,430,599 ([i]18,776.39[/i])
Total WRC: 48 Total Tech: 451,518 Total Nukes: 2,387

12 [400] [color=red](-2)[/color] [color=blue][b]Terra-Cotta Pact[/b][/color] : 23.5--> 23.49 [color=red](-0.01)[/color]
Strength:5,449,323 ([i]13,623.31[/i])
Total WRC: 25 Total Tech: 237,299 Total Nukes: 1,306

13 [199] (0.00) [color=green][b]Poseidon[/b][/color] : 20.73--> 20.75 [color=green](+0.02)[/color]
Strength:5,434,157 ([i]27,307.32[/i])
Total WRC: 61 Total Tech: 351,635 Total Nukes: 1,322

14 [141] [color=red](-1)[/color] [color=green][b]Checkmate.[/b][/color] : 18.31--> 18.27 [color=red](-0.03)[/color]
Strength:4,915,613 ([i]34,862.50[/i])
Total WRC: 32 Total Tech: 292,983 Total Nukes: 1,231

15 [169] [color=red](-1)[/color] [color=red][b]Blood For Friends[/b][/color] : 14.6--> 14.63 [color=green](+0.04)[/color]
Strength:3,712,587 ([i]21,967.97[/i])
Total WRC: 17 Total Tech: 179,474 Total Nukes: 934

16 [199] [color=green](+1)[/color] [color=green][b]Victory Not Vengeance[/b][/color] : 10.8--> 10.86 [color=green](+0.06)[/color]
Strength:2,463,309 ([i]12,378.44[/i])
Total WRC: 6 Total Tech: 112,880 Total Nukes: 540

17 [100] (0.00) [color=orange][b]Pegasus[/b][/color] : 5.95--> 5.96 [color=green](+0.01)[/color]
Strength:1,390,667 ([i]13,906.67[/i])
Total WRC: 1 Total Tech: 53,981 Total Nukes: 159

18 [59] [color=green](+1)[/color] [color=orange][b]Peace and Love Train Accords (Stewards)[/b][/color] : 3.53--> 3.54 [color=green](+0.01)[/color]
Strength:826,985 ([i]14,016.69[/i])
Total WRC: 0 Total Tech: 34,946 Total Nukes: 66


[i][u]Biggest Gainer:[/u][/i]
[color=red]The SuperFriends[/color] [color=green](+0.33)[/color]

[i][u]Biggest Loser:[/u][/i]
[color=green]The Iron Curtain[/color] [color=red](-0.10)[/color]

[i][u]Passes of the Day:[/u][/i]
[i]None.[/i]

[b][i]Commentary/Notes:[/i][/b]
[s]Removed the New Auric Armada because apparently it doesn't really exist anymore.[/s] Woops, I thought someone said they weren't actually here any more.
[s]Need to automate Biggest Gainer/Loser.[/s] Done.
Going to review treaty wording for PAL Stewards and Pegasus and may end up removing them.
Also looking into P.E.A.C.E. Treaty wording.
EDIT: also plan to add images for each bloc via wiki crawling.

[color=red]The SuperFriends[/color] continue gains, perhaps as a result of [color=aqua]Fark[/color]'s greenlight. [color=red]Complaints and Grievances Union[/color] lose five members, yet only sustain small losses. [color=blue]Chestnut Accords[/color] also have a gain, which likely also contributed to [color=red]The SuperFriends[/color]' gain. [s][color=orange]Peace and Love Train Accords (Stewards)[/color] take the biggest loser position, though this was clearly due to the removal of [color=grey]New Auric Armada[/color][/s]. [color=green]The Iron Curtain[/color] puts [color=red]Complaints and Grievances Union[/color]'s loss to shame with a 7 member loss, their proportional score loss however was a lot greater. [s]Had [color=orange]Peace and Love Train Accords (Stewards)[/color] not lost [color=grey]New Auric Armada[/color][/s], [color=green]The Iron Curtain[/color] would have taken the [i]Biggest Loser[/i] spot.

And that's that.

Edited June 13, 2010 by Pomiel

[Acca Dacca]

Pomi, if you have so much time on your hands, make me a sammich.

Also, Lovely stats.

[Pomiel]

[quote name='Acca Dacca' date='13 June 2010 - 01:39 AM' timestamp='1276407569' post='2335944']
Pomi, if you have so much time on your hands, make me a sammich.

Also, Lovely stats.
[/quote]

It takes less than half an hour, kitten.

I'm making a sammich later tonight it's going to be [censored] awesome. Grilled Cheese with Egg in the middle bread.
[img]http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4009/4238601726_30cc454b71.jpg[/img]

I'll take pictures when I make it

[Thunder Strike]

So the RIA is in 3 of the top 4 blocs.
We must be doing something right

[Penkala]

Yeah, that's right.

[quote]So the RIA is in 3 of the top 4 blocs.
We must be doing something right [/quote]

You make damn good meatshields.

Edited June 13, 2010 by Penkala

[Pomiel]

[quote name='Penkala' date='13 June 2010 - 04:07 AM' timestamp='1276416414' post='2336038']
You make damn good meatshields.
[/quote]


Thanks RIA. You're our favorite meatshields <3

[GearHead]

Dunno why NAA got removed. They are still there. Or, rather, [i]he[/i] is still there.

[Pomiel]

[quote name='GearHead' date='13 June 2010 - 12:34 PM' timestamp='1276446840' post='2336215']
Dunno why NAA got removed. They are still there. Or, rather, [i]he[/i] is still there.
[/quote]

Thought someone said NAA isn't alive anymore. my bad. Can't keep track of everything

[Pomiel]

Added automation for Biggest Gainer and Biggest Loser (or Least Loser and Least Gainer).

[BlkAK47_002]

*sighs* Only if BLEU were still around. Those were the days,

And nice job by the way

[Devilyn Caster]

Maybe add ANS of blocs?

[eyriq]

Well now, the Maroon sphere is putting people to shame. Xiph for player of the year sleeper? Thanks for putting this together, fun stuff.

[Banksy]

[quote name='Devilyn Caster' date='14 June 2010 - 02:53 PM' timestamp='1276480415' post='2336618']
Maybe add ANS of blocs?
[/quote]
It'll make us happy

[Mixoux]

[quote name='Devilyn Caster' date='13 June 2010 - 09:53 PM' timestamp='1276480415' post='2336618']
Maybe add ANS of blocs?
[/quote]

It's already there, in parenthesis next to total strength.

[wickedj]

This is really neat, Thanks Pomi

[Lord Curzon]

[quote name='Captain Flinders' date='12 June 2010 - 04:59 AM' timestamp='1276333139' post='2334782']
Well if you're going to add Duckroll then you might as well add ODP blocs. As it was explained at the time, Duckroll isn't even a traditional ODP, but some kind of agreement to work militarily in sync.
[/quote]


[quote name='Pomiel' date='12 June 2010 - 06:09 AM' timestamp='1276337346' post='2334809']
Duckroll stays. No ODPs. Final decision.

Why?
Duckroll is one military unit. That's how it's been defined. That's how the treaty reads. As such I'll maintain the statistics of the entire unit in this thread, since it is not available any where else. ODPs on the other hand are not a single military unit. It's unpredictable which alliances will actually honor it, no alliance is guaranteed to participate.

The "we've fought wars together" argument for ODPs shows that in some cases, some alliances may help each other, but me saying that an ODP bloc has X nukes is completely false if four of seven alliances decide they don't wish to honor the bloc.

Also, I never suggested that Duckroll was an ODP.

Added Commentary and updated Notes above: http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=87349&view=findpost&p=2334657
[/quote]

As was said earlier, its you're thread so dont let me rain on your parade, I personally appreciate that your tracking us. But just to clarify, duckroll is not a bloc. The duckroll treaty is a military treaty outlining how its signatories should cooperate during war times in the physical process of waging and planning for war. The treaty itself does not mandate its signatories to do anything politically, it is simply assumed that its signatories will be fighting along side each other. Duckroll is supposed to kick in once the field has been taken. The treaty presupposes that signatories will join in on the same side, however it does nothing to mandate that.

Your call though.

[Pomiel]

1 [1,345] [color=green](+7)[/color] [color=red][b]The SuperFriends[/b][/color] : 125.32--> 125.45 [color=green](+0.13)[/color]
Strength:32,250,474 ([i]23,978.05[/i])
Total WRC: 188 Total Tech: 1,853,792 Total Nukes: 8,180

2 [941] [color=green](+3)[/color] [color=red][b]Complaints and Grievances Union[/b][/color] : 95.42--> 95.8 [color=green](+0.38)[/color]
Strength:24,971,746 ([i]26,537.46[/i])
Total WRC: 206 Total Tech: 1,457,325 Total Nukes: 7,210

3 [679] [color=green](+2)[/color] [color=blue][b]Chestnut Accords[/b][/color] : 74--> 74.19 [color=green](+0.19)[/color]
Strength:19,537,585 ([i]28,774.06[/i])
Total WRC: 99 Total Tech: 1,035,882 Total Nukes: 5,008

4 [730] [color=red](-3)[/color] [color=blue][b]Bastion[/b][/color] : 71.76--> 71.67 [color=red](-0.09)[/color]
Strength:18,577,843 ([i]25,449.10[/i])
Total WRC: 97 Total Tech: 968,149 Total Nukes: 4,882

5 [730] [color=green](+3)[/color] [color=green][b]League of Extraordinary Oranges[/b][/color] : 63.84--> 63.6 [color=red](-0.24)[/color]
Strength:16,158,049 ([i]22,134.31[/i])
Total WRC: 92 Total Tech: 925,071 Total Nukes: 4,415

6 [345] [color=green](+2)[/color] [color=red][b]AZTEC Treaty[/b][/color] : 41.93--> 42.07 [color=green](+0.14)[/color]
Strength:11,235,255 ([i]32,565.96[/i])
Total WRC: 58 Total Tech: 609,676 Total Nukes: 2,499

7 [672] [color=red](-2)[/color] [color=green][b]Common Defense Treaty[/b][/color] : 41.73--> 41.79 [color=green](+0.06)[/color]
Strength:9,848,647 ([i]14,655.72[/i])
Total WRC: 31 Total Tech: 460,695 Total Nukes: 1,622

8 [430] [color=red](-4)[/color] [color=grey][b]Peace and Love Train Accords[/b][/color] : 40.18--> 40.15 [color=red](-0.03)[/color]
Strength:10,325,600 ([i]24,013.02[/i])
Total WRC: 49 Total Tech: 558,281 Total Nukes: 2,374

9 [468] [color=red](-3)[/color] [color=grey][b]Duckroll[/b][/color] : 36.86--> 36.92 [color=green](+0.06)[/color]
Strength:9,204,060 ([i]19,666.79[/i])
Total WRC: 108 Total Tech: 574,324 Total Nukes: 2,845

10 [373] [color=red](-2)[/color] [color=green][b]Peace and Love Train Accords (Engineers)[/b][/color] : 36.64--> 36.63 [color=red](-0.01)[/color]
Strength:9,497,952 ([i]25,463.68[/i])
Total WRC: 49 Total Tech: 523,281 Total Nukes: 2,308

11 [447] [color=red](-2)[/color] [color=green][b]The Iron Curtain[/b][/color] : 34.09--> 34.09 (0.00)
Strength:8,439,959 ([i]18,881.34[/i])
Total WRC: 48 Total Tech: 451,560 Total Nukes: 2,399

12 [400] (0.00) [color=blue][b]Terra-Cotta Pact[/b][/color] : 23.49--> 23.47 [color=red](-0.02)[/color]
Strength:5,440,653 ([i]13,601.63[/i])
Total WRC: 25 Total Tech: 236,650 Total Nukes: 1,303

13 [199] (0.00) [color=green][b]Poseidon[/b][/color] : 20.75--> 20.79 [color=green](+0.04)[/color]
Strength:5,443,611 ([i]27,354.83[/i])
Total WRC: 61 Total Tech: 351,540 Total Nukes: 1,334

14 [141] (0.00) [color=green][b]Checkmate.[/b][/color] : 18.27--> 18.02 [color=red](-0.25)[/color]
Strength:4,841,623 ([i]34,337.75[/i])
Total WRC: 31 Total Tech: 286,561 Total Nukes: 1,207

15 [171] [color=green](+2)[/color] [color=red][b]Blood For Friends[/b][/color] : 14.63--> 14.71 [color=green](+0.08)[/color]
Strength:3,727,964 ([i]21,800.96[/i])
Total WRC: 17 Total Tech: 179,931 Total Nukes: 940

16 [200] [color=green](+1)[/color] [color=green][b]Victory Not Vengeance[/b][/color] : 10.86--> 10.9 [color=green](+0.04)[/color]
Strength:2,469,464 ([i]12,347.32[/i])
Total WRC: 6 Total Tech: 113,137 Total Nukes: 542

17 [99] [color=red](-1)[/color] [color=orange][b]Pegasus[/b][/color] : 5.96--> 5.99 [color=green](+0.03)[/color]
Strength:1,397,409 ([i]14,115.24[/i])
Total WRC: 1 Total Tech: 53,943 Total Nukes: 160

18 [57] [color=red](-2)[/color] [color=orange][b]Peace and Love Train Accords (Stewards)[/b][/color] : 3.54--> 3.52 [color=red](-0.02)[/color]
Strength:827,648 ([i]14,520.14[/i])
Total WRC: 0 Total Tech: 35,000 Total Nukes: 66

[i][u]Biggest Gainer:[/u][/i]
[color=red]Complaints and Grievances Union[/color] [color=green](+0.38)[/color]

[i][u]Biggest Loser:[/u][/i]
[color=green]Checkmate.[/color] [color=red](-0.25)[/color]

[b][i]Commentary/Notes:[/i][/b]
As I said earlier, automated Biggest Gainer and Loser.
Still have to do all this:
Going to review treaty wording for PAL Stewards and Pegasus and may end up removing them.
Also looking into P.E.A.C.E. Treaty wording.
Add images for each bloc via wiki crawling.
EDIT: Just caught a bug that was causing score difference to be off by a bit.

Big drop for [color=green]Checkmate.[/color] yet they maintain membership count. Perhaps losing larger nations to inactivity as with many other alliances. [color=red]The SuperFriends[/color] continue their gain, as [color=aqua]Fark[/color]'s greenlight continues on. [color=red]Complaints and Grievances[/color] bounce back from a small loss yesterday, and increase their total membership by 3. [color=green]League of Extraordinary Oranges[/color] also sustains quite heavy losses, losing just a hundredth of a point less than [color=green]Checkmate.[/color]. Overall positive day for many blocs, even despite increasing membership counts for most. Bad day for [color=grey]Peace and Love Train Accords[/color], losing 4 members overall, though they barely lose any score.

And that's that.

Edited June 14, 2010 by Pomiel

[Vyper]

wow now this is looking good...

[wickedj]

hey Pomi, why is SF red? Majority is maroon..clearly you should change the color to maroon