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Iron Total Nations: 505 Nations
Iron Nations Outside of Peace: 351
Iron Nations Outside of Peace: Large majority 35k and under.
Iron Nations Under 10kns: ~140 nations
Iron Losses as of 1/30/2010 11:02:09 PM: 1430490.
On average that's 4075k ns loss for each IRON nation able to fight.

My god...how much damage does each nation have to take before you consider IRON being stomped in this war?

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[quote name='ddog241' date='31 January 2010 - 11:50 AM' timestamp='1264938638' post='2147353']
are you really that dumb?

Do you really think that CnG's allies would just let the Idiot Brigade attack them and not do anything about it?

dude, see my last post in this thread. take that advice dude cause you really looks like king moron right now
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They had a choice whether to involve their allies or not, [i]dude[/i].

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[quote name='BDRocks' date='31 January 2010 - 11:53 AM' timestamp='1264938818' post='2147361']
Iron Total Nations: 505 Nations
Iron Nations Outside of Peace: 351
Iron Nations Outside of Peace: Large majority 35k and under.
Iron Nations Under 10kns: ~140 nations
Iron Losses as of 1/30/2010 11:02:09 PM: 1430490.
On average that's 4075k ns loss for each IRON nation able to fight.

My god...how much damage does each nation have to take before you consider IRON being stomped in this war?
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A lot more than that. This is IRON, not GPA.

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[quote name='Alexander Blade' date='31 January 2010 - 05:58 AM' timestamp='1264939095' post='2147363']
They had a choice whether to involve their allies or not, [i]dude[/i].
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No, most of their MDP's are mandatory.. YOU had a choice whether to involve their allies or not, and by declaring offensively on all 7 alliances you chose to involve every single one of them. Your incompetence is your own responsibility, now it's time to man up and carry that burden.

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[quote name='Alexander Blade' date='31 January 2010 - 03:59 AM' timestamp='1264939150' post='2147364']
A lot more than that. This is IRON, not GPA.
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But these IRON nations aren't in the top tier or even mid tier where 4k ns losses are acceptable. These nations are losing ~4k in the bottom tier of the world where most are without nukes. Which means RON is mostly getting destroyed from simple GA's, Air Raids, and Cm's.

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[quote name='Alexander Blade' date='31 January 2010 - 06:58 AM' timestamp='1264939095' post='2147363']
They had a choice whether to involve their allies or not, [i]dude[/i].
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We tend to ally with alliances that we consider friends, not meatshields. It's not suprising that they decide to help out when we get attacked out of the blue.

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[quote name='Atilla' date='31 January 2010 - 12:00 PM' timestamp='1264939224' post='2147368']
No, most of their MDP's are mandatory.. YOU had a choice whether to involve their allies or not, and by declaring offensively on all 7 alliances you chose to involve every single one of them. Your incompetence is your own responsibility, now it's time to man up and carry that burden.
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Interesting argument ... except that it doesn't apply in the case of Aircastle, which you may have noticed is the thread you're in.

This is really no different to the 'entering on a PIAT' bandwagoning in the Unjust War. You're not fighting to save your allies – hell, I'm sure that now the original war is over, TOP would be happy to take a white peace with C&G, they're not in any mortal danger. You are jumping on the bandwagon, trying to get a piece of an alliance you have held an irrational dislike for for a long time but which you knew you could never even leave a scratch in if they weren't already outnumbered. An optional everything treaty has no effect on that.

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[quote name='Alexander Blade' date='31 January 2010 - 11:44 PM' timestamp='1264938290' post='2147344']
No. And I never said you did. But if it's a bloc of seven alliances, well, they just HAD to call their friends didn't they. :rolleyes:
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Are you and PrideAssassin having a competition?

We didn't have to call our friends. Our friends came to us- when they saw you launched an aggressive war upon our bloc.

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[quote name='ddog241' date='31 January 2010 - 12:00 PM' timestamp='1264939200' post='2147366']
sorry dude, hit our allies, were coming in win or lose
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It's nowhere near as simple as that, and you should damn well know it.

[quote name='Atilla' date='31 January 2010 - 12:00 PM' timestamp='1264939224' post='2147368']
No, most of their MDP's are mandatory.. YOU had a choice whether to involve their allies or not, and by declaring offensively on all 7 alliances you chose to involve every single one of them. Your incompetence is your own responsibility, now it's time to man up and carry that burden.
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We [i]are[/i] carrying the burden. D'oh.

[quote name='BDRocks' date='31 January 2010 - 12:02 PM' timestamp='1264939336' post='2147370']
But these IRON nations aren't in the top tier or even mid tier where 4k ns losses are acceptable. These nations are losing ~4k in the bottom tier of the world where most are without nukes. Which means RON is mostly getting destroyed from simple GA's, Air Raids, and Cm's.
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Yeah well, that's the effect of having so many alliances to deal with. :rolleyes:

[quote name='SkonesMickLoud' date='31 January 2010 - 12:02 PM' timestamp='1264939376' post='2147371']
We tend to ally with alliances that we consider friends, not meatshields. It's not suprising that they decide to help out when we get attacked out of the blue.
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"Out of the blue"? What the #$*%? Both sides were gearing up for war in light of the conflict between NpO and \m/. You knew we had you pegged as a threat. And you stood ready, knowing that if we attacked, you could just call up Uncle Sam and he'd save you from the evil Orange people.

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[quote name='Alexander Blade' date='31 January 2010 - 07:14 AM' timestamp='1264940069' post='2147381']
It's nowhere near as simple as that, and you should damn well know it.[/quote]

It really is.

[quote name='Alexander Blade' date='31 January 2010 - 07:14 AM' timestamp='1264940069' post='2147381']
"Out of the blue"? What the #$*%? Both sides were gearing up for war in light of the conflict between NpO and \m/. You knew we had you pegged as a threat. And you stood ready, knowing that if we attacked, you could just call up Uncle Sam and he'd save you from the evil Orange people.
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Not "out of the blue" as in: "ooh %$#@ we didn't see this coming", but "out of the blue" as in: "lol, those idiots did what?"

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[quote name='jamesdanaher' date='31 January 2010 - 12:11 PM' timestamp='1264939890' post='2147380']
Are you and PrideAssassin having a competition?

We didn't have to call our friends. Our friends came to us- when they saw you launched an aggressive war upon our bloc.
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No competitions here.

Refer to my last post.

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[quote name='SkonesMickLoud' date='31 January 2010 - 12:19 PM' timestamp='1264940357' post='2147386']
It really is.


Not "out of the blue" as in: "ooh shiiiiii we didn't see this coming", but "out of the blue" as in: "lol, those idiots did what?"
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Um, no, no, I don't think so.

Yeah, that's why I said you stood ready. :rolleyes:

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[quote name='ddog241' date='31 January 2010 - 12:19 PM' timestamp='1264940380' post='2147388']
its that simple for us, you hit our allies, we will hit you
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Even though your allies have allies have allies that are our allies?

Mmmkay.

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[quote name='Alexander Blade' date='31 January 2010 - 07:22 AM' timestamp='1264940538' post='2147393']
Um, no, no, I don't think so.
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Well, don't you just know everything.

[quote name='Alexander Blade' date='31 January 2010 - 07:22 AM' timestamp='1264940538' post='2147393']
Yeah, that's why I said you stood ready. :rolleyes:
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We're always ready. We're not the GODLIEST MILITARY EMPIRE IN CN for nothin' you know...

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[quote name='SkonesMickLoud' date='31 January 2010 - 12:24 PM' timestamp='1264940684' post='2147399']
Well, don't you just know everything.



We're always ready. We're not the GODLIEST MILITARY EMPIRE IN CN for nothin' you know...
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Please, if treaties are simple, then I'm Archon.

O.....kay.

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[quote name='SkonesMickLoud' date='31 January 2010 - 12:31 PM' timestamp='1264941072' post='2147407']
I served with Archon, I knew Archon, Archon was a friend of mine. Senator, you're no Archon.
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It was a- oh forget it.

I should have a sig saying: Mushroom Kingdom - Narrow-minded 'shrooms since 2007. <_<

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[quote name='Alexander Blade' date='31 January 2010 - 07:45 AM' timestamp='1264941954' post='2147420']
It was a- oh forget it.

I should have a sig saying: Mushroom Kingdom - Narrow-minded 'shrooms since 2007. <_<
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You don't say?

It's a play on words. Didn't you wonder why I was calling you "Senator"?

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[quote name='Alexander Blade' date='31 January 2010 - 12:45 PM' timestamp='1264941954' post='2147420']
It was a- oh forget it.

I should have a sig saying: Mushroom Kingdom - Narrow-minded 'shrooms since 2007. <_<
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IRON: Official Sponsor of CN's Lamest Joke, themselves.

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[quote name='Alexander Blade' date='31 January 2010 - 06:59 AM' timestamp='1264939150' post='2147364']
A lot more than that. This is IRON, not GPA.
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I was in GPA during that war. I know what getting stomped is like. You're getting stomped just as bad.

Hell, I could offer that up as an example of IRON partaking in similar levels of overwhelming force, except everyone knew GPA wouldn't be able to fight back. I would have thought you guys would have learned a thing or two from Karma.

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[quote name='flak attack' date='31 January 2010 - 10:46 AM' timestamp='1264952786' post='2147624']
I was in GPA during that war. I know what getting stomped is like. You're getting stomped just as bad.

Hell, I could offer that up as an example of IRON partaking in similar levels of overwhelming force, except everyone knew GPA wouldn't be able to fight back. I would have thought you guys would have learned a thing or two from Karma.
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Its hard to learn anything when your members are noobs who don't know anything about Bob or its politics...

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[quote name='tamerlane' date='31 January 2010 - 03:28 PM' timestamp='1264951718' post='2147581']
IRON: Official Sponsor of CN's Lamest Joke, themselves.
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That's plain awful.

[quote name='flak attack' date='31 January 2010 - 03:46 PM' timestamp='1264952786' post='2147624']
I was in GPA during that war. I know what getting stomped is like. You're getting stomped just as bad.

Hell, I could offer that up as an example of IRON partaking in similar levels of overwhelming force, except everyone knew GPA wouldn't be able to fight back. I would have thought you guys would have learned a thing or two from Karma.
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No. Karma didn't have anything to teach us.

[quote name='James Wilson' date='31 January 2010 - 04:59 PM' timestamp='1264957185' post='2147770']
Its hard to learn anything when your members are noobs who don't know anything about Bob or its politics...
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Oh and the IAA's members are all veterans who know everything there is to know about Bob and it's politics? Didn't think so.

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[quote name='Alexander Blade' date='31 January 2010 - 07:14 AM' timestamp='1264940069' post='2147381'] And you stood ready, knowing that if we attacked, you could just call up Uncle Sam and he'd save you from the evil Orange people.
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I'm pretty sure Sam is on your side :awesome:

[quote name='Alexander Blade' date='31 January 2010 - 07:23 AM' timestamp='1264940629' post='2147396']
Even though your allies have allies have allies that are our allies?

Mmmkay.
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There was enough confusion about whether attacking an ally's ally in the last war was right or wrong. If that close a relationship was still iffy in importance then this post is just grasping at straws.

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