magicninja Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 It does seem to reek of more motives than the ones mentioned. Seems like fussing over a tech raid on an unrelated alliance and getting some unkind things said for butting in doesn't seem enough to go to war from my viewpoint. Maybe there is more to it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldr Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Are you really that terrible at war? You aren't making any sense. I'm not at war, I'm not in any alliance involved in this conflict. I simply note, as a bystander, that \m/ started screaming "bring it" as soon as people complained about the attacks on FoA, an started moving into peace mode as soon as Grub started rattling sabers. Your alliance talks a lot, but when confronted, 30% of you jumped to peace mode as fast as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Margrave Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 I hunger for the day when we shall drag Polars to our altars and sacrifice them to the dark gods. I pray it is soon. Amazing, simply amazing, Grub. Bring the world police, bring Big Brother, bring all your petty rules that enslave the populace. \m/ will meet you guns blazing, every time. There will be no retreat and there will be no surrender from us, of that you have an assurance. Remember this day as the day the tables turned, for I promise you Justice will not be kind to you, Polaris. \m/! Let one of you be as a thousand, and let your guns be like the vengeance of God! \m/ >_< \m/! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suryanto tan Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 I don't get how in good consciousness you can just freely admit you didn't try to obtain clarification for something and instead just base hate off of something that I just proved to you was wrong. If polar didn't find their apology good enough then that's fine, but the fact of the matter is that they did apologize. I admit I did not read the entire posts in the \m/ apology thread. I just read the OP, which is an alliance formal statement. And from that, and that alone, I am under the impression that the apology is not sincere at all. If they truly feel sorry and regret it, and want people to know about it, they better made a better apology and put it in the OP instead in some post ten pages later where nobody even care to see. Perhaps you confused me with somebody else? I do not hate \m/. I will hate them, if they disband again. But may be you are not accusing I am, anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kriegsdrachen Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 o/ Polaris! you guys. Good luck with the fighting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llanowar Elf Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 So now not giving in to foreign demands is picking a fight.Somehow, this is familiar. No, pretty much when said Alliance EMPEROR comes into your channel to open talks diplomatically, and you proceed to flame, and throw obscenities at, IS picking a fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragashingo Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 From what I gather from this topic, NpO never even bothered to contact PC about the raid on FoA. Now unless I'm mistaken, that's one party that will not face any repercussions from this whole ordeal. Um... I'm sorry? I suppose you could bring them some consequences if you'd like to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorConcept Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 I admit I did not read the entire posts in the \m/ apology thread. I just read the OP, which is an alliance formal statement. And from that, and that alone, I am under the impression that the apology is not sincere at all. If they truly feel sorry and regret it, and want people to know about it, they better made a better apology and put it in the OP instead in some post ten pages later where nobody even care to see.Perhaps you confused me with somebody else? I do not hate \m/. I will hate them, if they disband again. But may be you are not accusing I am, anyway. I've never heard of two threads being made for one apology where just a clarification in one can suffice. It'd probably be marked as spam as far as I know. Again just because you didn't venture to see their clarification in the thread doesn't mean they were not sincere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TehChron Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 I believe Grub was the first one to pick a fight considering the whole situation didn't require him to butt in. Mediating requires someone to butt in at some point.And I won't get pulled into just putting random name, when branimir and whoever did it it was kinda weird. ...Wha? So you'd only punch those you're capable of? Sounds familiar... In Chronorica, assault is a felony. Tragically.Negotiate what? I've yet to see what needed to be "negotiated" in the first place. Doesn't matter, Grub attempted to begin negotiations, and \m/ picked a fight rather than be diplomatic about it. Seems pretty cut and dried.This isn't an argument about qualifications. The Corp were the ones whom just got to it first and this it was handled by the time polar got there, thus disqualifying the need for polar to do anything. And no there was no mixup at all as the official announcement was made here rather quickly.So maybe Grub missed it, or still felt his assistance was necessary in resolving the situation? You're still arguing how Grub had "no business" getting involved.That is an argument about qualifications, it seems you're the one making throwaway lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nippy Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 You aren't making any sense. I'm not at war, I'm not in any alliance involved in this conflict.I simply note, as a bystander, that \m/ started screaming "bring it" as soon as people complained about the attacks on FoA, an started moving into peace mode as soon as Grub started rattling sabers. Your alliance talks a lot, but when confronted, 30% of you jumped to peace mode as fast as possible. He asked because heading to peace mode is the first step of planning a counter-offensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWAT128 Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Um... I'm sorry?I suppose you could bring them some consequences if you'd like to. You must not have a clue about what I'm saying. If NpO is choosing to be world police, don't you think they should at least go all the way through with it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D34th Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Do not let my signature make you question my sincerity when I hail this as a very classy move. The hate is reciprocal So you admit this is a blatant attack on a smaller alliance. So GRUB if ROK flipped you the bird are you going to send your personal army after them too? A blatant attack on a smaller alliance? You are talking about \m/ raiding a 30 men alliance right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deSouza Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 True to an extent. Yet Bob doesn't quite work this way. In fact, NPO tried that very same route. NPO and every other alliance tried that very same route. Its called sovereignity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Margrave Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 To the Sith who are endorsing this moralist crusade: I know it is tactical. I know it is for your own benefit. But it is disgusting, and an embarrassment. Just remember; if you give the moralists back their power, if you support the crusades that they embark upon, they will bring their guns against you in the last. They cannot tolerate free people; we must be slaves, or we must be dead. Remember that you too are a force for the self and the self alone, and the people you support today will be calling for your hanging tommorow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombie Glaucon Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 So you're claiming their apology wasn't genuine? Is that it? Oh, I'm sure they meant precisely what they said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
octovanyo Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Really? A tie to PC and Rok aka Super Friends seems like a pretty strong position to me. RoK will go Neutral as they have a treaty with polaris as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earogema Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 NPO and every other alliance tried that very same route.Its called sovereignity. Wait, but how does applying one's ideals to another person's ideals equate to maintain the standard of sovereignty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deSouza Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Well yeah, but that's not my point. My point was you said destruction of communities was bad. Maybe FoA should have thought of that before they let their protectorate with Sparta drop. See, it works both ways. If you're going to say that the destruction of communities is a bad thing, then it holds in all situations of violence. FoA was passive about their "letting of their protectorate drop", and potentially not entirely to blame, \m/ on the other hand was active about everything they did, being undeniable responsible. I said that the destruction of communities for the sake of the destruction of communities is a bad thing. Having a CB makes said destruction be due to something, expressed on the CB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorConcept Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Mediating requires someone to butt in at some point. What needed mediating then? In Chronorica, assault is a felony. Tragically. Good thing we're not talking about assault. Doesn't matter, Grub attempted to begin negotiations, and \m/ picked a fight rather than be diplomatic about it. Seems pretty cut and dried. So like I said, negotiations for what? And they already apologized for their actions there. So maybe Grub missed it, or still felt his assistance was necessary in resolving the situation? You're still arguing how Grub had "no business" getting involved.That is an argument about qualifications, it seems you're the one making throwaway lines. Grub did not miss it and I know for a fact his advisers did not. Now what situation needed "resolving"? I'm waiting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nizzle Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 I finally caught up! Well done, Polaris, it's good to see folks standing up for what they believe in and trying to save the OWF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrie Melodies Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 You aren't making any sense. I'm not at war, I'm not in any alliance involved in this conflict.I simply note, as a bystander, that \m/ started screaming "bring it" as soon as people complained about the attacks on FoA, an started moving into peace mode as soon as Grub started rattling sabers. Your alliance talks a lot, but when confronted, 30% of you jumped to peace mode as fast as possible. Tell you what Mr. Expert, why don't track those nations through out the duration of this war, you may learn something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riddick Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 The hate is reciprocal A blatant attack on a smaller alliance? You are talking about \m/ raiding a 30 men alliance right? I heard it wasnt just \m/ and it was a pm for peace techraid which is goin down all over town. whats your excuse ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TehChron Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 To the Sith who are endorsing this moralist crusade:I know it is tactical. I know it is for your own benefit. But it is disgusting, and an embarrassment. Just remember; if you give the moralists back their power, if you support the crusades that they embark upon, they will bring their guns against you in the last. They cannot tolerate free people; we must be slaves, or we must be dead. Remember that you too are a force for the self and the self alone, and the people you support today will be calling for your hanging tommorow. And if that day comes, we will face them standing proudly, etc etc.But your leaders brought this on your heads, no one else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushi Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Just to put this out there, NOT A SINGLE PC GOVT was contacted by NpO about the FoA raid. Double standards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorConcept Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Oh, I'm sure they meant precisely what they said. I'm sure they were sincere in their apology as well. Thanks for agreeing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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