Cataduanes Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Scotland has a long history of involvement in Iberia, in marked contrast to Louisiana and EUzkadi as an indigenous Iberian nation and long term ally of the Scots remains firm in its conviction that Lousiana must accept the ultimatum and withdraw forthwith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justinian the Mighty Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 "The Italian Federation owns a military base in Oceania. Does the Italian Federation plan to invade Oceania? Viniland and the Rebel army own military bases in South America. Do they plan to invade South America? We recently owned Arkhangelsk. Did we ever invade Slavorussia?"Either Scotland is an aggressive warmonger or a paranoid aggressor, and I would think neither are healthy for Europe. The Slavorussian government finds this logic to be flawed. Evidence supports that fact that Grøenlandian government was preparing to bandwagon a war started by their allies in Nordland despite not having the necessary treaties or any prior contact with Slavorussia merely for the reason of stealing a Russian city away from Russians and deporting them from their country. You had every intention to invade us if we hadn’t surrendered. You were rewarded for your complicity and for being a good little puppet, with territory on Russia’s northern coast, but when the opportunity arose to repair relations with Slavorussia and return the city to the rightful owners you didn’t do it. But that‘s not the point. Military bases in territories like Arkhangelsk or Equador, are needed to defend the population from invasion. The point is that Louisiana's purely military outpost in Europe serves no purpose besides to giving an American country a foothold in Europe to go who knows what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yawoo Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 But that‘s not the point. Military bases in territories like Arkhangelsk or Equador, are needed to defend the population from invasion. The point is that Louisiana's purely military outpost in Europe serves no purpose besides to giving an American country a foothold in Europe to go who knows what. The base is both a military and diplomatic base, something that Scotland's supporters seem to enjoy ignoring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proxian Empire Posted January 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 The base is both a military and diplomatic base, something that Scotland's supporters seem to enjoy ignoring. This is incorrect. We are willing to accept a diplomatic base. For obvious reasons a military base is a perceived threat and aggression action against members of the Iberian Pact. You are refusing to compromise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yawoo Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 This is incorrect. We are willing to accept a diplomatic base. For obvious reasons a military base is a perceived threat and aggression action against members of the Iberian Pact. You are refusing to compromise. No, you are refusing to do anything besides threaten Louisiana. The base isn't going to change, so either do something about it or quit bothering Louisiana and the world at large with your idiocy and paranoia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cataduanes Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 (edited) No, you are refusing to do anything besides threaten Louisiana.The base isn't going to change, so either do something about it or quit bothering Louisiana and the world at large with your idiocy and paranoia. This provides further basis for our worries regarding Lousiana's presence in Iberia. Furthermore the presence of a non-European power within the continent is something that is an anthema to many of us, i urge you to reconsider your stance in a bid to avoid conflict. Do not underestimate the Iberian's pact resolve in this matter. OOC: Herro Yawoo Edited January 13, 2010 by Cataduanes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynneth Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 "While the GDR has no definite stance either way, we do ask Louisiana to rescind ownership of the territory simply to avoid war. Our main question is: Why does Lousiana need a military base - presumably manned with at least 10,000 men and several planes and ships - in Europe? Do give your reasons, please." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yawoo Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 This provides further basis for our worries regarding Lousiana's presence in Iberia. Furthermore the presence of a non-European power within the continent is something that is an anthema to many of us, i urge you to reconsider your stance in a bid to avoid conflict. Do not underestimate the Iberian's pact resolve in this matter.OOC: Herro Yawoo OOC: Hi Cata Louisiana will not give up the property it acquired through legal means, nor will Louisiana bow to the wishes of a bully who has no purpose barging into the affairs of a sovereign nation. "While the GDR has no definite stance either way, we do ask Louisiana to rescind ownership of the territory simply to avoid war.Our main question is: Why does Lousiana need a military base - presumably manned with at least 10,000 men and several planes and ships - in Europe? Do give your reasons, please." Louisiana will not reveal how many soldiers or sailors are stationed on Louisianan sovereign soil. As has been said countless times before, this military base also doubles as a diplomatic base and having it in it's current location allows Louisiana to better communicate with its non-American friends, to provide security for said friends and to provide for better Louisianan self defense measures. Louisiana will not give up the territory it has acquired through completely legal means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justinian the Mighty Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 The base is both a military and diplomatic base, something that Scotland's supporters seem to enjoy ignoring. Then apply for an embassy in European capitals. All you're doing now is aggravating Scotland and a good number of other countries in Europe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yawoo Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Then apply for an embassy in European capitals. All you're doing now is aggravating Scotland and a good number of other countries in Europe. Scotland has their supporters, and Louisiana has theirs. Some nations are bound to be upset by every little thing, that is not for Louisiana to worry about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cataduanes Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 If Louisiana continues on this path it will lead to war, that much is certain. EUzkadi calls for the whole of Europe to stand united to this incursion into our continent by a non-European power, if this is allowed to pass it will set a precedence for future incursions into European affairs by outsiders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberstein Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 The base is both a military and diplomatic base, something that Scotland's supporters seem to enjoy ignoring. Why do you need such a large area for "diplomatic" reasons. Why do you need a large army base to protect it? Why not an embassy with police? Your excuse of it being a "diplomatic outpost" shows that you are either lying or are incredibly paranoid and inefficient. OOC: Hi Cata Louisiana will not give up the property it acquired through legal means, nor will Louisiana bow to the wishes of a bully who has no purpose barging into the affairs of a sovereign nation. Louisiana will not reveal how many soldiers or sailors are stationed on Louisianan sovereign soil. As has been said countless times before, this military base also doubles as a diplomatic base and having it in it's current location allows Louisiana to better communicate with its non-American friends, to provide security for said friends and to provide for better Louisianan self defense measures. Louisiana will not give up the territory it has acquired through completely legal means. OOC: He hasn't RP'd moving any troops there, so he doesn't have anybody on his Spanish lands as far as I'm concerned. People don't teleport. IC: Europe will not stand for American nations taking land in Europe, it is absurd and a slippery slope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justinian the Mighty Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 (edited) OOC: He hasn't RP'd moving any troops there, so he doesn't have anybody on his Spanish lands as far as I'm concerned. People don't teleport. ooc: This is cnrp silly people teleport all the time. Infact I just teleported my entire army into your office. Edit: Recognize Justinian as the Grand Duke of Finalnd and they'll leave. Edited January 13, 2010 by Justinian the Mighty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yawoo Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Why do you need such a large area for "diplomatic" reasons. Why do you need a large army base to protect it? Why not an embassy with police? Your excuse of it being a "diplomatic outpost" shows that you are either lying or are incredibly paranoid and inefficient.OOC: He hasn't RP'd moving any troops there, so he doesn't have anybody on his Spanish lands as far as I'm concerned. People don't teleport. IC: Europe will not stand for American nations taking land in Europe, it is absurd and a slippery slope. The military base's purpose is not to solely protect the diplomatic base. Louisiana has never stated that it's new land is a diplomatic outpost, we suggest you get your facts from someone that doesn't reside in your nether region. ** Classified *** Two carrier battle groups, four submarines, and 400,000 men are en route to Louisiana's new holdings. In addition, 30 fighter squads and 20 bomber squads have flown ahead to the new holdings. OOC: Happy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberstein Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 The military base's purpose is not to solely protect the diplomatic base. Louisiana has never stated that it's new land is a diplomatic outpost, we suggest you get your facts from someone that doesn't reside in your nether region. ** Classified *** Two carrier battle groups, four submarines, and 400,000 men are en route to Louisiana's new holdings. In addition, 30 fighter squads and 20 bomber squads have flown ahead to the new holdings. OOC: Happy? OOC: I'd be more happy if you left it empty. IC: Odd, Louisiana has been stating it is a diplomatic base this entire time, are they changing their minds just now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yawoo Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 OOC: I'd be more happy if you left it empty. IC: Odd, Louisiana has been stating it is a diplomatic base this entire time, are they changing their minds just now? No, Louisiana has never stated it is a diplomatic base. Louisiana has stated over and over that it is both a military and a diplomatic base. Two separate bases occupying the same land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberstein Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 (edited) No, Louisiana has never stated it is a diplomatic base. Louisiana has stated over and over that it is both a military and a diplomatic base. Two separate bases occupying the same land. So it is a diplomatic base but not a diplomatic base? You say it isn't, then in the next sentence, call it exactly that. Could Louisiana share their magical technology that allows them to have something exist and not exist at the same time? Schrödinger's Military Base, very interesting concept, does that mean radiation is involved? Edited January 13, 2010 by BaronUberstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yawoo Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 So it is a diplomatic base but not a diplomatic base? You say it isn't, then in the next sentence, call it exactly that.Could Louisiana share their magical technology that allows them to have something exist and not exist at the same time? Would a picture help your country to understand this simple concept? If so let me know and Louisiana will provide one free of charge. There are two bases occupying the same land. One is a military base, the other a diplomatic base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpacingOutMan Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 So it is a diplomatic base but not a diplomatic base? You say it isn't, then in the next sentence, call it exactly that.Could Louisiana share their magical technology that allows them to have something exist and not exist at the same time? Or are people from your country truly that dense? He stated there are two bases: a military and diplomatic base in the same allotted sovereign region. If I can do it, you should be able to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberstein Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Would a picture help your country to understand this simple concept? If so let me know and Louisiana will provide one free of charge. There are two bases occupying the same land. One is a military base, the other a diplomatic base. Or are people from your country truly that dense? He stated there are two bases: a military and diplomatic base in the same allotted sovereign region. If I can do it, you should be able to. I do not see why their statements are not contradictory. Stating "There is no diplomatic base" and then stating "There is a diplomatic base" and then "You are stupid for thinking there is a diplomatic base because there is clearly a diplomatic base", is clearly contradictory. We understand that there are 2 bases on their colony, but we are confused why Louisiana constantly is changing it's position about the nature of the colony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yawoo Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 I do not see why their statements are not contradictory. Stating "There is no diplomatic base" and then stating "There is a diplomatic base" and then "You are stupid for thinking there is a diplomatic base because there is clearly a diplomatic base", is clearly contradictory.We understand that there are 2 bases on their colony, but we are confused why Louisiana constantly is changing it's position about the nature of the colony. Where has Louisiana denied the existence of a diplomatic base? We have made sure everyone knows there are two bases in Louisiana's new territory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberstein Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Where has Louisiana denied the existence of a diplomatic base? We have made sure everyone knows there are two bases in Louisiana's new territory. See here: No, Louisiana has never stated it is a diplomatic base. Louisiana has stated over and over that it is both a military and a diplomatic base. Two separate bases occupying the same land. Notice how in the very same statement you flipflop back and forth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Keshav IV Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 (edited) "This silly. Foreign Bases exist all the time. We have a military base in Africa, does that make us hostile? Italian Federation has a base in Asia does that make them hostile? No. Louisana doesn't support Tahoe's one America Policy as they have said earlier. Scotland and its allies should stop bullying nations. Lousiana has our support." Edited January 13, 2010 by Sir Keshav IV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yawoo Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 See here:Notice how in the very same statement you flipflop back and forth. No, Louisiana didn't deny the existence of it, if you look at the next sentence you'll see we clarified that there were two bases there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberstein Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 "This silly. Foreign Bases exist all the time. We have a military base in Africa, does that make us hostile? Italian Federation has a base in Asia does that make them hostile? No. Louisana doesn't support Tahoe's one America Policy as they have said earlier. Scotland and its allies should stop bullying nations." "We are not Africa or Asia, just because another continent allows foreign intervention does not mean we will." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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