Velken Posted June 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 As detailed as Heft's description is, it is his opinion. Others, like myself, may argue the definitions he presented. I'm not going to go into great detail, but merely want to point out that the definitions and which alliances fall into which category are up for debate. I am aware of that but i felt it was well written and could be used as a basis for something similer. Yeah the definitions would be/are debatable depending on each persons POV but clearly the main debate would be over the various alliances and which category they fit in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velken Posted June 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 there are a few superpower bloc-alliances coming into view.Frostbite w/ C&G comes to mind, the two have strong ties through various treaties among member alliances Citadel will always be a player. Superfriends is gaining strength. Wouldn't bloc-alliances be consider hyperpowers? considering that they are made up of alliances instead of just a lone single allinace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Sci Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 I agree with Heft in every regard, down to which alliances fit which description. Never any hyperpowers unless you consider GATO one right after the GATO-INC war, where GATO was truly the only alliance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Greenberg Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 (edited) there are a few superpower bloc-alliances coming into view.Frostbite w/ C&G comes to mind, the two have strong ties through various treaties among member alliances Citadel will always be a player. Superfriends is gaining strength. There are many powers in the game right now. Frostbite + C&G, SuperFriends, Citadel, and a few other strong blocs. Because of this "power void" you would imagine that there would be a cold war between some of these blocs. This "cold war" will eventually lead to a world war which will ultimately decide which 1, 2, or 3 blocs will be the Superpower. NOIR and Poseidon/Pegasus could also be a player too btw. Edited June 25, 2009 by Ryan Greenberg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Conrad Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 There are many powers in the game right now. Frostbite + C&G, SuperFriends, Citadel, and a few other strong blocs. Because of this "power void" you would imagine that there would be a cold war between some of these blocs. This "cold war" will eventually lead to a world war which will ultimately decide which 1, 2, or 3 blocs will be the Superpower. NOIR and Poseidon/Pegasus could also be a player too btw. I wouldn't call NOIR a "major player" as it's designed more around economics and friendly relations among the black sphere alliances than it is about pushing an agenda. The ODP, imo, is mainly there in emergency cases such as unnecessarily unfair/aggressive attacks on the black sphere and to provide general security from such aggression. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinite Narwhal Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 If Citadel were to merge into one alliance t'would be a superpower Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flak attack Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Doesn't that mean I get killed? You must not have been told about the last set of surrender terms offered to NPO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Wilson Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Doesn't that mean I get killed? BWHAHAHAHAHA---I mean...god no...we won't let that happen to you! */me secretly gets his silenced .50 caliber Sniper Rifle ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Planet express of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drai Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 I think a superpower could easily be classified as any alliance with an extreme advantage in NS, numbers, nukes, wonders, and allies. Basically, TOP But those are the biggest factors. Stats and allies make a decent superpower in this game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shahman Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 There are many powers in the game right now. Frostbite + C&G, SuperFriends, Citadel, and a few other strong blocs. Because of this "power void" you would imagine that there would be a cold war between some of these blocs. This "cold war" will eventually lead to a world war which will ultimately decide which 1, 2, or 3 blocs will be the Superpower. NOIR and Poseidon/Pegasus could also be a player too btw. Poseidon/Pegasus is beat up from the war Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Greenberg Posted June 25, 2009 Report Share Posted June 25, 2009 Poseidon/Pegasus is beat up from the war What I ment was that Poseidon/Pegasus will be allied to one side which could detirmine the fate of the next "war". Each bloc will be important in some way or fashion. Since Poseidon and Pegasus equal about 18,000,000 NS combined, they will be very important even though they got kicked around a bit in the war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadshot Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 What I ment was that Poseidon/Pegasus will be allied to one side which could detirmine the fate of the next "war". Each bloc will be important in some way or fashion. Since Poseidon and Pegasus equal about 18,000,000 NS combined, they will be very important even though they got kicked around a bit in the war. Very true Ryan, I feel Poseidon/Pegasus are oft overlooked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmmehhh Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 (edited) Very true Ryan, I feel Poseidon/Pegasus are oft overlooked. LEO has 2000 nukes more than Poseidon. LEO and chestnut are underrated too. But I agree Poseidon will also be an important factor. Edited June 26, 2009 by Timmehhh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstep Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 Basically, TOP But those are the biggest factors. Stats and allies make a decent superpower in this game. I like to think of superpowers as a nation (alliance ig) that controls such a degree of power it successfully influences others in its way(as both the US/USSR did, and much of the reason the U.S. is not liked throughout much of the middle east) Because of this, I would like to think that TOP is not a Superpower, and believe that the membership of TOP has no intent on becoming such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Greenberg Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 LEO has 2000 nukes more than Poseidon. LEO and chestnut are underrated too. But I agree Poseidon will also be an important factor. Yes, people underestimate LEO, Chestnut, and Poseidon. All of these blocs will play an important role throughout the lead uo to the next war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoFish Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 SF is full of superpowers. FARK has x-ray vision, Rok has super strength, MA can breathe underwater, GOD shoots lasers from its eyes, and RIA has an invisible jet and magic lasso. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mussolandia Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 That wiki article needs some serious revision. GATO is listed as an hegemonic power in what was arguably the period where another alliance (NPO) displayed the closest behavior to what you would call a hyperpower/superpower. GATO has never held a position of leadership throughout its history. It was the NPO that led the GATO-Legion-NPO troika in the "Classical Age". It was LUE that was the driving force of the CoaLUEtion. Arguably, the one moment in its history where GATO attempted to display leadership was in the aftermath of GWII - and that basically got them destroyed along with their allies. Tempted to edit the article myself, but I'll let you judge its value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anenu Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 That wiki article needs some serious revision. GATO is listed as an hegemonic power in what was arguably the period where another alliance (NPO) displayed the closest behavior to what you would call a hyperpower/superpower. GATO has never held a position of leadership throughout its history. It was the NPO that led the GATO-Legion-NPO troika in the "Classical Age". It was LUE that was the driving force of the CoaLUEtion. Arguably, the one moment in its history where GATO attempted to display leadership was in the aftermath of GWII - and that basically got them destroyed along with their allies.Tempted to edit the article myself, but I'll let you judge its value. Unless i am mistaken their was a point were Gato was the only alliance or the only functional alliance in CN making it the de facto world leader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flak attack Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 SF is full of superpowers.FARK has x-ray vision, Rok has super strength, MA can breathe underwater, GOD shoots lasers from its eyes, and RIA has an invisible jet and magic lasso. MA got hosed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WcaesarD Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 MA got hosed. And R&R Got left out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mixoux Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 And R&R Got left out R&R is the green lantern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WcaesarD Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 R&R is the green lantern. Also, as a former ASC member and Triad, I hereby declare that I am Batman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timberland Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 I would say NpO is a super power, they have the 2nd most nukes in CN, an amazing 163 MP's which is the most by one alliance. Then you take into consideration all their allies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mussolandia Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 Unless i am mistaken their was a point were Gato was the only alliance or the only functional alliance in CN making it the de facto world leader. Yes, for about two weeks - before the !@#$%* invasion. Hardly what I call dominance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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