Captain Flinders Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 I'm very glad someone with the know how took the time to write this all up. Many in Karma have been stressing such points to the former hegemony since the war started and to have it laid out so eloquently is wonderful. I for one look forward to seeing the touted "best economic alliance" in the world handle the payment of some substantial reps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nizzle Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 So Karma used to complain about punishment for nations in PM...and now RoK is going after nations in peace mode? Epic, epic fail. In terms of the post, I like it. Great as always, Azaghul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Stalin Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 Very good read, lots of truth and common sense. Hopefully some people will read this and quit with the "OMG TERMS TURN YOU INTO THE MONSTER YOUR TRYING TO DESTROY" argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogar Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 I'm very glad someone with the know how took the time to write this all up. Many in Karma have been stressing such points to the former hegemony since the war started and to have it laid out so eloquently is wonderful. I for one look forward to seeing the touted "best economic alliance" in the world handle the payment of some substantial reps. @ your sig, that was over a year ago, and with kingzog at the helm I am hopeful that NoR will not commit any of the sins of the past, but hey, if it makes you feel better to try to keep me your enemy, go for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nizzle Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 Very good read, lots of truth and common sense. Hopefully some people will read this and quit with the "OMG TERMS TURN YOU INTO THE MONSTER YOUR TRYING TO DESTROY" argument. Indeed. The only alliances deserving of reparations are: NPO The only alliances deserving of receiving payments from reparations are: Those who were attacked by the Hegemony, directly. Hope I stirred the pot enough with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta1212 Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 So Karma used to complain about punishment for nations in PM...and now RoK is going after nations in peace mode?Epic, epic fail. In terms of the post, I like it. Great as always, Azaghul. I could be wrong, but I believe that was a joint decision by everyone on the NPO front, rather than a decision by RoK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nizzle Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 I could be wrong, but I believe that was a joint decision by everyone on the NPO front, rather than a decision by RoK. That makes it SO much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorConcept Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 If that's the case, then the clock is currently ticking at 15K tech/day. So it'll probably take at least another month and a bit before the preterm reps are higher than NPO's total tech. Then they better start dropping out of peace mode then, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nizzle Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 Then they better start dropping out of peace mode then, eh? FAN cannot get peace until they come out of peace mode and fight! Wait, wrong war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raphael Beau Pre Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 So Karma used to complain about punishment for nations in PM...and now RoK is going after nations in peace mode?Epic, epic fail. In terms of the post, I like it. Great as always, Azaghul. You would prefer they went down the same route as NPO and PZI anyone in peace mode perhaps? Also, would you please point out to me where it says that RoK is the only alliance who made this decision about punishment for peace mode? I seem to have missed that bit of the post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nizzle Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 You would prefer they went down the same route as NPO and PZI anyone in peace mode perhaps? Who cares about their nations in peace mode? Let them all rot in PM. I highly doubt putting pressure on them for their nations in PM will force a surrender any faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja Colt Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 FAN cannot get peace until they come out of peace mode and fight!Wait, wrong war. I do believe you have missed the point, entirely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermes Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 Well that's right inline with the original terms offered to Athens in the noCB war. So apparently, if i am getting this correct, the terms are based off previous terms that you didn't agree with, but you are now condoning these terms? Yes, giving them equally "bad" terms as they have given to other alliances is Karma, but will a form of Karma not come for you now? You might think it is different, but it is not. You are still giving !@#$ terms and people will still oppose them. The cycle will continue as long as you let it. Hermes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzelger Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 Who cares about their nations in peace mode? Let them all rot in PM.I highly doubt putting pressure on them for their nations in PM will force a surrender any faster. Force a surrender? They tried to surrender on the first day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Flinders Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 (edited) @ your sig, that was over a year ago, and with kingzog at the helm I am hopeful that NoR will not commit any of the sins of the past, but hey, if it makes you feel better to try to keep me your enemy, go for it. You were the one throwing apparently baseless threats around. You said the war on NoR/NoV would not end. I'm not the one making an enemy of anyone, just pointing out your pathetic threats. Edited May 25, 2009 by Captain Flinders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBone Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 Force a surrender? They tried to surrender on the first day. That was more like an "oops, sorry, can we have a do over", but yea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzelger Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 (edited) That was more like an "oops, sorry, can we have a do over", but yea. That was their initial try, yeah, but when terms starting being discussed it was clear that they were surrender terms and that didn't faze them too much. Edit: Err, faze, not phase Edited May 25, 2009 by bzelger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadie Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 (edited) Great OP. It's nice to see this all laid out in one post, instead of having to mine through a load of forums threads to put the pieces together. Edited May 25, 2009 by Roadie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafael Nadal Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 A great summary post. A lot of us have been arguing these points individually in different topics, but it's definitely nice to see them all connected and intertwined in one post. Nice job Aza. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mortale Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 NPO would be wise to take the proposal. They still have a few days before the punishment kicks in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princessro07 Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 So Karma used to complain about punishment for nations in PM...and now RoK is going after nations in peace mode?Epic, epic fail. In terms of the post, I like it. Great as always, Azaghul. Azaghul outlined that in his essay. Having a fine levied for PM nations is a far cry from PZI. Excellent read Azaghul, thanks for putting this together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirMe Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 So Karma used to complain about punishment for nations in PM...and now RoK is going after nations in peace mode?Epic, epic fail. In terms of the post, I like it. Great as always, Azaghul. If you were part of Karma, you could see the discussion on this matter. This wasn't just from RoK. This was a consensus that came from a 5 day long discussion on terms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirMe Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 So apparently, if i am getting this correct, the terms are based off previous terms that you didn't agree with, but you are now condoning these terms? Yes, giving them equally "bad" terms as they have given to other alliances is Karma, but will a form of Karma not come for you now? You might think it is different, but it is not. You are still giving !@#$ terms and people will still oppose them. The cycle will continue as long as you let it.Hermes I didn't give anyone terms. I am not fighting on the NPO front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadie Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 If you were part of Karma, you could see the discussion on this matter. This wasn't just from RoK. This was a consensus that came from a 5 day long discussion on terms. I didn't give anyone terms. I am not fighting on the NPO front. Just trying to clear some of the confusion on what's what and who's who and who did wut blah blah. By looking at those two responses, I presume then that A: This offer came from Karma, not RoK and B: You yourself are not part of Karma? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nizzle Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Azaghul outlined that in his essay. Having a fine levied for PM nations is a far cry from PZI.Excellent read Azaghul, thanks for putting this together Right, and NPO actually PZI'd GATO nations...right? Oh, it was just a threat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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