Zinobya Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 The propensity to desire blood and war is characteristic of the game design and is arguably why people and alliances build nations, wonders, warchests, infra and tech; where as the influence necessary to render the ultimate conflict viable is a commodity held by a mere handful of players. I don't care what goes on behind the scenes, and I frankly don't want a war only when it is either stoked via waited-for iron clad causus belli, or profitable and/or convenient to have one. I also do not care if I am neither "allowed" nor "wearing the correct AA" to say this. We'll have a war this summer, or by May. It will take that long to engender the parameters, and ensure that the "most important" are out of school or on vacation and available to commit full time to the game. I'm old, tired, and so very bored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoyoabc Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 waiting for the war is really boring. anyway, voted and hope that it will happen in a month's time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 First, you really should rethink your stance regarding post-GPW politics and discussion. There was no such conjecture over stagnation. Since you took pains to beat the younger players over the head with your vast experience you should at least do them the favor of not lying to them. I have rethought and come to exactly the same conclusion as before, because that's where all the evidence points. After the GPW when the Orders were on radio silence and the Initiative hadn't begun to develop (GOONS were getting closer to LUE than the Orders at the time) the forums were filled with complaints about how boring and stagnant things were -- so much so that those who had spent the past 6 months doing nothing but attacking the Orders were crying for our return. And when the Initiative did begin to develop it was argued that the sides were so evenly matched they could never be resolved. In fact I will go even further. As early as March (or perhaps even February) 2006 there were massive calls for a planet-wide reset, since the position of the NPO meant that nothing could ever change and we were doomed to eternal stagnation. Or further still: before the Citrus War even began in mid-February there were calls for a reset because it was deemed 'impossible' to catch KD into the #1 rank (followed by it being 'impossible' to catch me to the #1 rank, followed by it being 'impossible' to catch Jormungand to the #1 rank, followed by it being 'impossible' to etc. etc. etc.). Since we're reminiscing, let me take you back to the 7th of April 2007, when I said exactly the same thing. The important thing is that this was said when the Cold War and everything else was still fresh in the memories of those involved, and yet nobody contradicted the post (in fact I believe the word used by one reader to describe it was 'beautiful'). But equally impressive is that this could be said in in April 2007 and still be so applicable to the debates we're having today. Round and round we go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shahenshah Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 (edited) I find the policy of rationalizing OOC attacks and criticizing perfect CBs as a very unique way of building moral high grounds. I suggest that this policy continues and we also receive the weekly dose of entertainment otherwise world will be mighty bored at a quicker pace and people will want to start wars or make political sphere more dynamic by forming blocs but without becoming a subject to CN-wide debates. Edited March 13, 2009 by shahenshah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan the Barbeque Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 Has it escaped you that such threads use to easily reach way more than that and at times over 100 pages. No one give a damn about the forums anymore because Vox monopolizes the whole damn thing. A small group of loud forum trolls with an ax to grind that have driven off the real driving forces of the game and completely killed the drama. No one cares anymore. The major leaders avoid the forums like the plague now. There is absolutely 0 real politic going on for the masses to see. Sure there most stuff has always been handled offsite but there was a time when the forums were jumping with the real politics of the game along with the usual **** fest. Today its just the **** fest. It's been dead for a long time, it's why war on the GPA was an important goal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorConcept Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 Since we're reminiscing, let me take you back to the 7th of April 2007, when I said exactly the same thing. The important thing is that this was said when the Cold War and everything else was still fresh in the memories of those involved, and yet nobody contradicted the post (in fact I believe the word used by one reader to describe it was 'beautiful'). But equally impressive is that this could be said in in April 2007 and still be so applicable to the debates we're having today. Round and round we go. Look at the time difference between that thread and the last real war before it. Then look at the arguments here, and the last real war before it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoXV Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 timing of the war is dependent on the decision of the big alliances' leaders... not on the polling results... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorConcept Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 The propensity to desire blood and war is characteristic of the game design and is arguably why people and alliances build nations, wonders, warchests, infra and tech; where as the influence necessary to render the ultimate conflict viable is a commodity held by a mere handful of players.I don't care what goes on behind the scenes, and I frankly don't want a war only when it is either stoked via waited-for iron clad causus belli, or profitable and/or convenient to have one. I also do not care if I am neither "allowed" nor "wearing the correct AA" to say this. We'll have a war this summer, or by May. It will take that long to engender the parameters, and ensure that the "most important" are out of school or on vacation and available to commit full time to the game. I'm old, tired, and so very bored. I believe this is the part where NPO's favorite line, "Do something about it" would come very much in handy. Perhaps you should join Vox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lycurgus Rex Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 Never a GW again, for the simple fact that Im sick of hearing GW, lets come up with a new name for our wars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarMaster Kerr Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 Never a GW again, for the simple fact that Im sick of hearing GW, lets come up with a new name for our wars. yea, maybe something like Big Gay Al's Big Gay Boat Ride War. ill go start an alliance called BGABGBR and you all join then we'll start a war over something stupid. Other than that, Maybe vox populi got their wish, they want a war from what I understand, and they pretty much got one, it's just that everyone decided they'd fight vox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doitzel Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 I believe this is the part where NPO's favorite line, "Do something about it" would come very much in handy. Perhaps you should join Vox. Perhaps she already has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorConcept Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 Perhaps she already has. Your thoughts are interesting, I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randleman Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 Whenever I decide there to be one.a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electron Sponge Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 Whenever I decide there to be one.a So that's who stole my Magical War Starting Wand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Ascendent Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 (edited) I did and I wont give it back *Phoenix Ascendent starts signing "we shall have peace in the valley" :lol: Edited March 13, 2009 by Phoenix Ascendent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electron Sponge Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 I did and I wont give it back*Phoenix Ascendent starts signing "we shall have peace in the valley" :lol: i hate you sooo much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randleman Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 (edited) So that's who stole my Magical War Starting Wand I told you I wouldn't give it back until you gave up the baby diet. P.S. Phoenix, doesn't think he has it. That just a stick.... Edited March 13, 2009 by Randleman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electron Sponge Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 I told you I wouldn't give it back until you gave up the baby diet.P.S. Phoenix, doesn't think he has it. That just a stick.... I haven't eaten a baby since I left the Order also I hate you sooo much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randleman Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 I haven't eaten a baby since I left the Orderalso I hate you sooo much Is there no more room for love in your heart anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIdiot the Great Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 I voted 'Never.' To me, a 'Great War' would involve two relatively evenly matched sides. That hasn't happened in my 500 days here, I don't see it changing anytime soon. If the real question the OP is asking is 'when is the next Great Curbstomp' I'm sure it'll be along soon enough. Regards, VI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electron Sponge Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 Is there no more room for love in your heart anymore I will allow love into my heart again when the hegemony is dead and buried, for now I will be one of those hate machines I hear so much about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dochartaigh Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 I will allow love into my heart again when the hegemony is dead and buried, for now I will be one of those hate machines I hear so much about so does that mean you no longer love me ES? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randleman Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 I will allow love into my heart again when the hegemony is dead and buried, for now I will be one of those hate machines I hear so much about Might have to wait a lil while... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 I haven't eaten a baby since I left the Order But they are so tender and delicious, I find it hard to believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Salovsky Posted March 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 I voted 'Never.'To me, a 'Great War' would involve two relatively evenly matched sides. That hasn't happened in my 500 days here, I don't see it changing anytime soon. If the real question the OP is asking is 'when is the next Great Curbstomp' I'm sure it'll be along soon enough. Regards, VI well then... evenly matched? is that what defines a great war, really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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