cowman809 Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 I'm pretty sure I'm on multiple ZI lists of more alliances than I know. I checked a lot of forums and they either had no visible list or one thats outdated. So while this may be a bit of a drag I'd like to know which alliances have me on ZI. I request for only people who actually do know a definite answer to tell me. So far I have TORN - PZI IRON - PZI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unko Kalaikz Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 What did you do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nietzschee Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 What did you do? spied Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hertugen Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 What did you do? spied Yeah.. Good luck with sorting that out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlaricTheGreat Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 Weren't you quitting? If you're that worried about PZI, just delete your nation, re-roll, and go about your merry way as your new nation. No one's the wiser, unless you screw up again and then tell ppl who you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potato Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 (edited) Not to be a smart arse but wouldn't be easier to go see the alliance(s) you harmed and ask them and their allies? I can't see why anyone outside the realm of your trouble who PZI you. Edited February 18, 2009 by potato Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Boris Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 Not to be a smart arse but wouldn't be easier to go see the alliance(s) you harmed and ask them and their allies? I can't see why anyone outside the realm of your trouble who PZI you. In some respects, that doesn't always yield results like you'd expect. After all, as GOD so recently showed, PZI can sneak up on a person like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alterego Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 spied I think you really understated a spy operation that was in its early days and on its way to becoming quite the spy ring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin McDonald Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 Weren't you quitting? If you're that worried about PZI, just delete your nation, re-roll, and go about your merry way as your new nation. No one's the wiser, unless you screw up again and then tell ppl who you are. This. If you plan on sticking around, (ooc: despite my feelings toward Cowman809 I hate to see anyone leave the game) it might just be best to reroll and keep your nose clean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleh32 Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 Sometimes people are intentionally PZId simply for being annoying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Frontier Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 I think you really understated a spy operation that was in its early days and on its way to becoming quite the spy ring. I'm going to go out on a limb and say any spy ring he may have planned to create would have failed, perhaps horribly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newhotness Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 From the looks of this thread, so far its just TORN and IRON Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sanders Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 This. If you plan on sticking around, (ooc: despite my feelings toward Cowman809 I hate to see anyone leave the game) it might just be best to reroll and keep your nose clean. You actually think that would happen? :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIdiot the Great Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 This. If you plan on sticking around, (ooc: despite my feelings toward Cowman809 I hate to see anyone leave the game) it might just be best to reroll and keep your nose clean. I'm going to have to respectfully disagree here. Given the uncertain nature of enforcement, i.e. ZI's can get commuted to PZI's, EZI's etc. it seems most prudent to do just as he's doing. Though he can reroll and 'not get in trouble' I have seen circumstances where this doesn't work out very well, even if they've done nothing wrong as their new character. Some will take the view that if so-and-so deleted, he didn't serve his sentence, etc. And as Lord Boris pointed out above, some of these things can hang around for over a year. Given all the uncertainties, it would seem to me the best bet is get it out in the open and try to figure out who needs to be contacted and worked with so you can continue on. Good luck working this all out Cowman. Regards, VI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffron X Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 I'm going to go out on a limb and say any spy ring he may have planned to create would have failed, perhaps horribly. It did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Boris Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 It did. Yeah, pretty much. Their attempt to spy on TORN ended when their spy failed recruit training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowman809 Posted February 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 I just wanted to know what I would do if I came back. TORN allows me to use cowman809 again after re rolling even with PZI. Not all alliances are like that and I wanted to know that if I came back what name I should use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sancus Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 I just wanted to know what I would do if I came back. TORN allows me to use cowman809 again after re rolling even with PZI. Not all alliances are like that and I wanted to know that if I came back what name I should use. ... Not Cowman809 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringMeTheHorizon Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 I just wanted to know what I would do if I came back. TORN allows me to use cowman809 again after re rolling even with PZI. Not all alliances are like that and I wanted to know that if I came back what name I should use. Id say the player that is named cowman809 is under PZI, so if you came back under the same name as cowman809, you'd still be under PZI since you are techincally still the same player. And the PZI is still on for that player under that name of cowman809. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sage Masters Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 Yeah, pretty much. Their attempt to spy on TORN ended when their spy failed recruit training. Thus in keeping with my sig Id say the player that is named cowman809 is under PZI, so if you came back under the same name as cowman809, you'd still be under PZI since you are techincally still the same player. And the PZI is still on for that player under that name of cowman809. I believe this is the general consensus on the line between OOC and IC. cowman809 is your current IC. He has been sentenced to PZI. Im guessing that even if u re-rolled, that sentence would still stand. Note: That is my opinion and does not reflect any official stance of TORN's Sage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groucho Marx Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 In some respects, that doesn't always yield results like you'd expect. After all, as GOD so recently showed, PZI can sneak up on a person like that. Yeah, that tends to happen when people get lazy and forget to make sure that they are in fact free to roam where ever they wish. After all, you can't expect everyone to be keen enough to think it through before they make their move and claim freedom that didn't exist. It's good to see someone take the initiative in the most convenient way possible to figure out who exactly has beef with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowman809 Posted February 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 Thus in keeping with my sig I believe this is the general consensus on the line between OOC and IC. cowman809 is your current IC. He has been sentenced to PZI. Im guessing that even if u re-rolled, that sentence would still stand. Note: That is my opinion and does not reflect any official stance of TORN's Sage bigwoody said it was fine to reroll with cowman809. Thats why I'm asking this question. If I came back I'd want to use cowman809, but not if my other ZIs are PZIs since TORN is on a case by case basis according to bigwoody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sage Masters Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 bigwoody said it was fine to reroll with cowman809. Thats why I'm asking this question. If I came back I'd want to use cowman809, but not if my other ZIs are PZIs since TORN is on a case by case basis according to bigwoody. If bigwoody said it, then it is set in stone (atleast from TORNs perspective). Good luck with the other alliances. Sage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Boris Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 If bigwoody said it, then it is set in stone (atleast from TORNs perspective). Good luck with the other alliances.Sage Pretty much. Anyone who has really taken the time to get to know bigwoody and his policies knows that he is an extremely lenient person, particularly when it comes to handing out sentences. There are folks who have done wrong against him and TORN in the past who have managed to retain much more than what they would have been able to if it had been wrongs against most other alliances or leaders. Things that likely would have yielded true PZI and maybe even EZI sentences in some minds, but woody has been far less severe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sage Masters Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 (edited) Pretty much. Anyone who has really taken the time to get to know bigwoody and his policies knows that he is an extremely lenient person, particularly when it comes to handing out sentences. There are folks who have done wrong against him and TORN in the past who have managed to retain much more than what they would have been able to if it had been wrongs against most other alliances or leaders. Things that likely would have yielded true PZI and maybe even EZI sentences in some minds, but woody has been far less severe. Hail the merciful Bigwoody Edit: Spelling ftl Edited February 18, 2009 by Sage Masters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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