Kevin McDonald

http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=210329

I doubt it

I'm tired of chasing people to find long term deals. If you can, send me 100 tech now and I'll give you 6m x 2 as soon as the slots clear.

Congrats, NADC!

You were the one I missed the most, RV.

Congratulations, my old friends.

I am buying tech. If you want to do something long term, I will do 2 deals at 6m for 100 tech, and after than 6m for 75t. Let me know if you want to proceed through in-game message. http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=210329

I like this new design, looks sleeker. Don't care about the technology stuff behind it. All of you need to stop complaining, or start donating your time and money to make something you do like. Ingrates.

[quote name='Starfox101' timestamp='1344752916' post='3021141'] Yeah, when two people still in love break up they get back together 100 times. Bad analogy. If you're still in love, why did you say relations have soured? You're contradicting yourself while trying to be clever. [/quote] And sometimes they don't get back together. As well, I meant soured as part of the broader idea of the relationship moving in separate directions. What would you call it? As for the personal attack, yes, probably uncalled for. It's an emotional time. (Insofar as anything on this planet can be considered emotional.)

Expected/10 I knew about this months ago

Starfox, you have no clue what you are talking about. VE and GOD were great allies, and continued to be so right up until the end. However, the ties that created that alliance have gone sour. Yes, we were great allies insofar as we held to the letter of the treaty, but recently the spirit has gone away. VE will always be considered amongst GOD's greatest allies. The relationship has simply run its course. You've never heard of two people who were still in love breaking up? It happens all the time. Two people love each other dearly, however their interests and paths diverge. Such is life. Now, take your head out of your ass, and your comments out of this thread.

Congratulations Delta. I loved my time in the Cupcakery, despite joining long after its prime. Go to a well-deserved rest, my friend. Congratulations to the RIA, the future looks bright, as always. Strong government, strong triumvirate. (Does this mean the countdown start for Shadow )

Horribly written apology. "Get this out of the way", "I felt this was too much." Jesus, I get the sentiment, pal, but next time get a speechwriter.

[quote name='Kevin McDonald'] Ha! You're like a religious zealot... you honest-to-goodness cannot even see how awful you are. I don't even know how to respond. You are exactly NPO. 100%. You saw an opportunity to flex your muscles and did so. The method makes not one iota of difference. All that matters is the ends. And don't worry about wishing that your alliance would begin to EZI or force colour moves. Continue down this path and you'll be there the next time war rolls around. [quote name='Leet Guy' timestamp='1339771047' post='2984817'] Well this is a rather self-fulfilling prophecy. If you're going to threaten to EZI MK down the road, how am I supposed to not consider such [i]ends[/i] for this war? [/quote] [/quote] Erm, I meant that if MK continues down this path, MK would be at the point where they begin to EZI by the next war. Not that GOD would be EZIing MK this time around, sorry for the misunderstanding.

[quote name='Banksy' timestamp='1339742861' post='2984637'] those logs are faked and gibsonator is a liar, unlike our friendship with dave93 [/quote] Ha! Fantastic! I like this new MK. And at least Banksy is owning it. Seerow, you could learn a thing or two.

[quote name='Seerow' timestamp='1339730931' post='2984316'] So what acknowledging that MK has not done anything that we actually found abhorrent in the past is religious zealotry? You're a hoot. [/quote] No, failing to see the forest for the trees is religious zealotry.

[quote name='Seerow' timestamp='1339730181' post='2984301'] You accuse us without hypocrisy without basis. Going to war is not an act MK condemns. The issues we had with the NPO were far more extensive than them rolling the occasional alliance. Saying we're hypocrites and worse than they ever were is stupid when you consider that we haven't actually done any of the things we actually had a problem with. Memory really does dull things over time apparently, when people think a legit declaration of war is as bad as any of the things I listed. I do agree with you in wishing MK would start doing those things though. At least then people saying we're as bad as the NPO ever was would have some actual foundation to base their argument upon. But unfortunately our government has more morals than that, and for some reason wants to at least toe the line of the post-karma world, rather than do the full reversion that we commonly get accused of. [/quote] Ha! You're like a religious zealot... you honest-to-goodness cannot even see how awful you are. I don't even know how to respond. You are exactly NPO. 100%. You saw an opportunity to flex your muscles and did so. The method makes not one iota of difference. All that matters is the ends. And don't worry about wishing that your alliance would begin to EZI or force colour moves. Continue down this path and you'll be there the next time war rolls around.

[quote name='Seerow' timestamp='1339729283' post='2984278'] Oh okay. We'll make a point of forcing improvement/wonder decoms and imposing a viceroy or three at the end of this war. Maybe we'll send CSN over to Pink and EZI xiph when this is done too. [/quote] So sad. Yes, why don't you do all this? It's funny you consider yourself better than alliances that have done this in the past. You're not. If GOD is guilty of this in the past, as many alliances are, at least GOD has maintained consistency in their actions through the years, and even matured in time. Accuse us of being monsters in that past, but you CANNOT accuse us of hyprocisy. It is YOUR hypocrisy which I am accusing you of, and again, is the only issue I take with this. When you come up with a plausible way to deny that this war is simply a way for MK to flex its new power, go ahead, until then, you remain a hypocrite and have lost all possibility to ever use the "well at least we didn't do this card." You are NO BETTER than any alliance who has done anything of the sort in the past, and in fact, are quite worse, because most of those alliances never gained their power by pretending that wasn't what they are about. If you're going to do something, own it. I have absolutely no delusions about what GOD has done in the past, and I can live with myself. I would ask you to take that same stark look at what your alliance has become, and if you are comfortable with it, then so be it. But own it one way or another.

[quote name='Seerow' timestamp='1339728163' post='2984256'] Coming from a member of GOD makes this post hilarious. [/quote] GOD has always been completely transparent about their world views. I'd have no issue with this action if it wasn't EXPRESSLY what MK argued against for so long.

Absolutely shameful MK. And to think, I remained a supporter of you long after all the formerly same-minded people had given up on you. I guess what everyone said was true, you had no issue with what NPO/hedgemony of that time was doing, other than you weren't a part of it. Four legs good, two legs better, eh? Despicable.

I am an alliance, and I declare war on Tetris. Oh, what's that, I'm not an alliance? Hmm... ok, hold that. I need to go fact check here.

Banks? Your weakest banks? I actually forgot about "banks" as a concept on this planet, it's been so long. But I'm totally declaring myself a bank right now, peace mode (in the next war) here I come!

Now this is a treaty I can get behind. o/ GOD o/ MCXA

[quote name='mmansfield68' timestamp='1330242905' post='2928446'] Your alliance-hopping, under-achieving streak is quasi-forgiven, Mr. McDonald. [/quote] And actually now that I think about it, I was DMOFA in NADC

GOD turns 5 as I come up on 4 years in this game. And while I've only been in GOD a year and a half, it is the longest I have been in one alliance. It's also the first alliance that I've been in that I haven't had a leadership position in since I joined NADC way back in 2008 and was with them for a few months. It's an alliance that I've truly found a sense of community in, and if it wasn't for all the great people, I would already be sitting on my own AA, "retired", with a few friends protecting me, as I always planned. Congrats to our fine alliance, and I know we'll be around at least another 5 years.* [size="1"]*Unless Xiph quits, and then we'll fall apart.[/size]