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As of this moment, The Roman Empire officially declares war against Animalz and Limitless Nexus for numerous unwarranted attacks on our members.

 

The Roman Empire had nothing to do with this war. We were sitting on the sidelines along with most others while we were being urged to jump into action but we resisted our allies' yearning for war. This trend would have continued if not for what occurred Feb 1-4. After a "raid" by one of our members, Animalz and Limitless Nexus responded in full force by attacking half of TRE and sending a third into anarchy.

First, allow me to explain the circumstances of this "raid". anexer25 of the Reborn Roman Empire joined TRE on Jan 26. Six days later, he attacked an Animalz member, losing more than he gained in the attack. The day following, Animalz' retaliation began in full force and anexer went to join Animalz. As of this day, nine separate attacks have been made against TRE while anexer has been adopted into the ranks of our enemies.

Even if we did condone this raid, which we were not given time to remedy before retaliation began, Animalz' response far outweighs what would be necessary. That they are not just raiding us in mass numbers, but also attacking without any offer of peace, amounts to an unspoken declaration of war in and of itself. We have had enough of it. They have brought the fury of Rome upon themselves and if they wish to shake hands in hell we shall not disappoint.

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You guys attacked aNiMaLz, I declared one war on you guys without nuking to make sure you peaced them out. Despite Alexio arguing a peace deal for you guys and me peacing out the nation I declared on, rather than send peace you declared war on and attacked the rebel. So you guys started it by attacking aNiMaLz, you guys escalated after we agreed no new wars by declaring on the rebel.

 

Me declaring on one nation using no nukes & only doing ground attacks on most days was full force? You're the one wo attacked the rebel, he might be going full force since you attacked him. I was being diplomatic until you escalated everything & now I'm busy fighting others. I trust the rebel can handle you, so you continuing this war you started isn't a big deal.

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We 'started' this war? A brand new member of TRE raided and then declared peace on one of your members. Generally, an event such as that is followed up by a message to me inquiring as to what is going on. Not responding with your own raids within FIVE hours. If you guys had any wish not to be involved in this war right now you would not be involved in it.

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I believe TRE is correct in there actions....just because a young nation of theirs messes up doesn't mean attack the whole alliance..... And they poached the member at that....

 

Kind of an overkill.....

 

Al Bundy

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I believe TRE is correct in there actions....just because a young nation of theirs messes up doesn't mean attack the whole alliance..... And they poached the member at that....

 

Kind of an overkill.....

 

Al Bundy

 

Al, we agree on almost everything, but this one is a stretch. RE is only using the current conflict as an opportunity to piggy-back and dog-pile and not what their actions would have been had no conflict occurred at all.

 

So i am giving RE the benefit of the doubt to resolve their conflict swiftly and diplomatically, than resorting to resistance

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We 'started' this war? A brand new member of TRE raided and then declared peace on one of your members. Generally, an event such as that is followed up by a message to me inquiring as to what is going on. Not responding with your own raids within FIVE hours. If you guys had any wish not to be involved in this war right now you would not be involved in it.

You were in 3 wars with aNiMaLz, I declared to make sure yuu guys peaced them out. Rather than talk, you  guys were unresponsive at first and then were already escalating it by the time you did respond days later. Not my fault you're bad at diplomacy, I wasn't going to let myself end up in anarchy without first having that leverage to assist aNiMaLz when I saw you guys attacked first, in case you decided to continue. (Although seems in the end I did peace out the nation and you're continuing)

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Al, we agree on almost everything, but this one is a stretch. RE is only using the current conflict as an opportunity to piggy-back and dog-pile and not what their actions would have been had no conflict occurred at all.

 

So i am giving RE the benefit of the doubt to resolve their conflict swiftly and diplomatically, than resorting to resistance

Could you please explain this further. What "would have our actions have been had no conflict occurred at all"?

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Al, we agree on almost everything, but this one is a stretch. RE is only using the current conflict as an opportunity to piggy-back and dog-pile and not what their actions would have been had no conflict occurred at all.

 

So i am giving RE the benefit of the doubt to resolve their conflict swiftly and diplomatically, than resorting to resistance

I know we do!!! So I'm confused here? Let me do some more digging but I don't see how TRE is wrong here....

 

Ive known the leader for a while and he does not want this I'm sure, but in this case I see why he is doing what he is.

 

AL

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Could you please explain this further. What "would have our actions have been had no conflict occurred at all"?

You could have said that was a mistake your member made sooner, rather than escalating despite my war reason clearly making a reference to  aNiMaLz, who you had an aggressive war on. If it was you who spoke to me, I asked why you declared on aNiMaLz, you said you had no aggressive wars; then I asked about the war labeled "Orders" which was attacking aNiMaLz. After that I didn't get a response until you were attacking the rebel.

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I declared to make sure yuu guys peaced them out. Rather than talk, you  guys were unresponsive at first and then were already escalating it by the time you did respond days later. Not my fault you're bad at diplomacy, I wasn't going to let myself end up in anarchy without first having that leverage to assist aNiMaLz when I saw you guys attacked first, in case you decided to continue. (Although seems in the end I did peace out the nation and you're continuing)

Please tell me you see the irony here ? As it's been stated time and time again, your the reason you're at war for months at a time with no rest, you've once again ejected yourself into a situation you should have let run it's course, now you may very well get your wish of an all out global assault, if you think Alexio isn't having a chat with leadership at CnG, you don't know the man very well.

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I could have said my member made a mistake sooner? You mean in the five hours between that mistake and Sir Kindle's retaliation?

Between my war to get diplomacy started and you escalating suddenly after I had the impression Alexio was discussing peace on your behalf.  So new wars and we were going to phase out the rest was the deal Alexio proposed and I agreed with.. Suddenly to our amazement I see rather than send peace, you guys declared on a bunch of new nations. So if you weren't talking with Alexio regarding the solution, you should have contacted me at some point.

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Don't get me wrong either I would have retaliated against the one newbie raider that attacked....but I would not attacked the whole alliance.....seems like you wanted to make a scene.... :popcorn:

 

AL

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Newbie attacked peace out pretty quickly.

Wars commenced following.

I got involved and aided those that had been hit as asked to do.

I also started peace negotiations on behalf of TRE.

During peace negotiations a breakdown in communications from the other side allowed a new war to be declared.

I was once again asked to send aid to the new nation attacked which I complied with.

In the space of 5 hours more animalz attacks commenced while peace talks are still on going. First offence had been over looked while talks ongoing.

The 5 new offences occurred and talks still continued as I had not heard from ulthran. He had however been updated on the situation. As well as the fact 5 new wars had cropped up.

TRE rightly felt aggrieved because they thought peace was close and was sending peace offers to again be hit 5 times.

After conveying the peace along to ulthran he responded that he couldn't let the new declared wars go.

Now this is where we are. Diplomacy has been on going and is still on going. TRE didn't have diplomatic approach from animalz first. It was a shoot first ask questions later. TRE and myself had apologised for the initial noob hit.

Peace talks are still on going.

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Don't get me wrong either I would have retaliated against the one newbie raider that attacked....but I would not attacked the whole alliance.....seems like you wanted to make a scene.... :popcorn:

 

AL

I just did one war where I wasn't doing full attacks, so I would have some leverage in bringing it to an end. All the active wars between LN and his alliance I think have been declared by their leader at this point. aNiMaLz would have peaced you guys out had you went along with the peace plan, although rather than sending peace you guys escalated by expanding it to more wars.

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So apparently this was resolved in talks and in the process of peacing out wars as evident prior to this declaration of war.

My good sir, you are preventing me from my tasks by sending the hounds on me which is disappointing. Reconsider.

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Whatever we will just roll these clowns. They asked for peace, and we agreed. Then these cowards see we are fighting SNX so they grow some balls. I have no problem fighting you and SNX and the same time. Your fighters are some of the worst in the game. Don't ever ask for peace again. That is all the time you will get from me, now enough talk just fight. Have the two farmers I showed mercy to, and declared peace with declare on me.

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I just did one war where I wasn't doing full attacks, so I would have some leverage in bringing it to an end. All the active wars between LN and his alliance I think have been declared by their leader at this point. aNiMaLz would have peaced you guys out had you went along with the peace plan, although rather than sending peace you guys escalated by expanding it to more wars.

 

Ya attacking one of their nations, not the one involved. Attacking the whole alliance over a newbie raider is way overkill, and you guys seem like you wanted the escalation.

 

Al

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Whatever we will just roll these clowns. They asked for peace, and we agreed. Then these cowards see we are fighting SNX so they grow some balls. I have no problem fighting you and SNX and the same time. Your fighters are some of the worst in the game. Don't ever ask for peace again. That is all the time you will get from me, now enough talk just fight. Have the two farmers I showed mercy to, and declared peace with declare on me.

If it was an honest mistake, I think we should maybe just let it go and focus on SNX. Although we should make sure something like that doesn't happen again if we agree to peace out again and they are sincere on wanting peace.
 
Overall I think they will be an unneeded distraction, if this isn't needed. Edited by Sephiroth
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