The Big Bad Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 So since their is no treaty and LoSS has not declared any wars does this DoW really exist? This entire war has been a half assed from the start I guess this just continues to show the great decline of Planet Bob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Buscemi Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 If LoSS can't link to a treaty prior to this DoW with VE, I'm going to assume they have no treaty. Well done chaps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eumirbago Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 QUICK!! Write the treaty :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogar Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 I'm on the same side of a war coalition as LoSS, I love it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldie Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 (edited) No, because it doesn't exist. We hadn't gotten around to posting it yet, but as far as the VE charter is concerned, LoSS is our oDoAP ally. Edited November 5, 2013 by goldielax25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Coulson Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 (edited) Maybe I'm the only one confused here, but this treaty wasn't posted here, on the Wiki, on the VE forums, or on the LoSS forums. Am I wrong? I was about to point to shoddy record keeping which appears to have been confirmed before I actually posted. Good research, though. Usually alliances get 1 of these things right. We hadn't gotten around to posting it yet, but as far as the VE charter is concerned, LoSS is our oDoAP ally.Also, I know I've only been back a bit but LOSS isn't what I think of when I think of winter... Edited November 5, 2013 by Monroe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Buscemi Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 We hadn't gotten around to posting it yet, but as far as the VE charter is concerned, LoSS is our oDoAP ally. Okay, so no treaty exists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnap88 Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 (edited) LoSS :wub: Edited November 5, 2013 by johnap88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 so you signed a treaty during the middle of the war, after engaging I guess? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldie Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 Okay, so no treaty exists. LoSS and VE have an oDoAP. Here is a link to it: http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?/topic/119130-winter-is-here/?p=3187165 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overlord Shinnra Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 This was pretty poorly done. I'm not surprised though. It is LoSS after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Buscemi Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 LoSS and VE have an oDoAP. Here is a link to it: LoSS DoW on NG Sorry, but that's not how it works. And no one buys that either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldie Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 Sorry, but that's not how it works. And no one buys that either. If you decide not to buy it, that's fine. According to VE and according to LoSS, we have an active treaty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smurthwaite Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 Man, I am glad we signed with LoSS. Have fun, guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Buscemi Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 If you decide not to buy it, that's fine. According to VE and according to LoSS, we have an active treaty. I'm going to remember this precedent you tried to set. That you could attack anyone you wanted to and just claim there was a treaty there to justify the pre-empt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldie Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 How can one be pre-empted if they're already in the war? Rather than setting up ghost treaty chains, a CN norm, we figured why not just sign a treaty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeology Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 I can verify as LoSS treaty partner they informed allies of the treaty before the DoW. O/ LoSS give em hell my friends Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krzyzewskiville Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 How can one be pre-empted if they're already in the war? Rather than setting up ghost treaty chains, a CN norm, we figured why not just sign a treaty.Because that's exactly what Planet Bob needs, more treaties for shits and giggles! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldie Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 Because that's exactly what Planet Bob needs, more treaties for shits and giggles! Figured its still an upgrade from 'an attack on one...' logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 It really isn't. You could have at least had LoSS use the second Moldavi Doctrine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Wally Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 I can verify as LoSS treaty partner they informed allies of the treaty before the DoW. O/ LoSS give em hell my friends And likewise we were given a heads up as well. For what it's worth I can confirm that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 I can verify as LoSS treaty partner they informed allies of the treaty before the DoW.O/ LoSS give em hell my friendsHow much notice were you given? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldie Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 It really isn't. You could have at least had LoSS use the second Moldavi Doctrine. Would have been a rather humorous thing to do in light of the beginning of the war, but no, there would be outcry for that happening too. The last war really should have put to bed any controversies people can make about war chaining and declarations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 Would have been a rather humorous thing to do in light of the beginning of the war, but no, there would be outcry for that happening too. The last war really should have put to bed any controversies people can make about war chaining and declarations.I had a problem with the way EQ chained in, and I'm not a fan of this either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldie Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 I had a problem with the way EQ chained in, and I'm not a fan of this either. I don't think anyone is a "fan" of it, but some people want to have treaty chains when entering fronts, and we're happy to oblige. There is a reason this is the 2.0 version of the Shady Business Accords. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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