GayDragon Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 So what am I reading? A DoW or a Declaration of new government. The intention of the OP is very unclear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnCapistan Posted October 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 [quote name='GayDragon' timestamp='1318791645' post='2826326'] So what am I reading? A DoW or a Declaration of new government. The intention of the OP is very unclear. [/quote] We do not intent to establish a government per se, first we must cleanse the world of so called "anarchist" alliances. Then the oligarchs shall burn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sap3179 Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 [quote name='Mr Damsky' timestamp='1318785054' post='2826281'] There is no such thing as equality. It is a physically impossible pipe dream. [/quote] No, its not. The inequality has existed for thousands of years, there exists passages in world's first book about the inequality that exists between a large farmer, and the landless tenant who ploughed his land, and even before that in the cities of Sumeria or Indus (about 3150-2400 BC) inequality can be seen in the domicile structures, that of a wealthy merchant, and that of a worker employed in granary or pottery. It is only in last 150 years that a true form of socialism has been formed and propounded. Yes, it did have some issues, ultimately backtracking in the form of fall of Soviet Russia, but so has Capitalism! 2008 onwards, the institution that holds the great flags of exploitation, theft and sometimes downright robbing is being worn down, ultimately perhaps resulting in a new order. Perhaps I spoke too much. But let me say this- sometimes ago, there used to be a micro alliance, named the capitalist order, whose members used to declare war on anyone who had anything that resembled Marxism or Socialism, or Communism in any way-nation bio, or Government preference and was in their range, a NOOB. Today that pigpen no longer exists. Despite self proclamations as a warrior, and knowledge of this particular game, I say you are no better than them and same fate awaits you, the infallible darkness of being no longer remembered, as it should to anyone who tries to defend a common raid in the shadow of a particular ideology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoppistan Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 (edited) Mr. Damsky, I'll have some of what ever you're huffing. It's not paint, is it? I don't like paint; it leaves a funny ring around the mouth. Good luck with... er, what ever this is. Edited October 16, 2011 by Kzoppistan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Bromeini Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 Damsky: because he just couldn't be happy with talkin' up the [ooc]boiler room[/room] with his fallacious line of thought. LSF will destroy the crapitalist menace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wickedj Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 [quote name='Kzoppistan' timestamp='1318793757' post='2826345'] Mr. Damsky, I'll have some of what ever you're huffing. It's not paint, is it? I don't like paint; it leaves a funny ring around the mouth. Good luck with... er, what ever this is. [/quote] I suspect his brain naturally produces the cocaine. That or he got a blood transfusion from Keith Richards Crush them all, Damsky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berbers Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 [quote name='ZeroRemorse' timestamp='1318791613' post='2826325'] This eye of Damsky...what is it? lol [/quote] Stop it now! Even talking about it can draw it's fearsome gaze down upo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewPoseidon Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 My invisible hand gives you the invisible finger. I suggest a compromise: everyone abandon the revolution and join the Kenysian Democrat AA! Yay middle ground! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabcat Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 I think this particular capitalist would like to sell us some rope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 (edited) While I'm more of a Libertarian Capitalist with free market views on trade and property, I recognize there are other ways of viewing property rights and for those with socialist views to embrace Libertarian ideas on personal rights I think is a good thing. Libertarian ideas need to spread and influence all types of political thinking, which is why I think LSF is a great alliance for turning those with communist/socialist viewpoints towards being more libertarian. Therefore I fully support LSF and consider them great allies of the libertarian cause, therefore I do not recognize this coup as valid and fully support my libertarian friends in LSF. The key to Libertarianism is recognizing the importance of freedom and that nobody should infringe upon the freedom of others to do things how they want. As I understand it most socialist libertarian viewpoints don't consider it valid to make everyone conform to their system with force, but communities can setup in which those living there choose be part of a system with everyone sharing resources. Although libertarian socialists don't believe in using force to seize property from those who do not want to take part in collective ownership, but that both types of libertarians could co-exist with their own views on how to go about life without infringing upon the freedom of others. Edited October 16, 2011 by Methrage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AphexTwin Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 Go forth and crush the pigs my comrades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroRemorse Posted October 17, 2011 Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 [quote name='sap3179' timestamp='1318792774' post='2826333'] No, its not. The inequality has existed for thousands of years, there exists passages in world's first book about the inequality that exists between a large farmer, and the landless tenant who ploughed his land, and even before that in the cities of Sumeria or Indus (about 3150-2400 BC) inequality can be seen in the domicile structures, that of a wealthy merchant, and that of a worker employed in granary or pottery. It is only in last 150 years that a true form of socialism has been formed and propounded. Yes, it did have some issues, ultimately backtracking in the form of fall of Soviet Russia, but so has Capitalism! 2008 onwards, the institution that holds the great flags of exploitation, theft and sometimes downright robbing is being worn down, ultimately perhaps resulting in a new order. Perhaps I spoke too much. But let me say this- sometimes ago, there used to be a micro alliance, named the capitalist order, whose members used to declare war on anyone who had anything that resembled Marxism or Socialism, or Communism in any way-nation bio, or Government preference and was in their range, a NOOB. Today that pigpen no longer exists. Despite self proclamations as a warrior, and knowledge of this particular game, I say you are no better than them and same fate awaits you, the infallible darkness of being no longer remembered, as it should to anyone who tries to defend a common raid in the shadow of a particular ideology. [/quote] You speak of the truth comrade. This post along with its founder will soon die and become archived....possibly gravedug in the future. He is no threat to anyone with a nation like his so I say we ignore him and let him join whoever he joins. [quote name='Methrage' timestamp='1318800000' post='2826381'] While I'm more of a Libertarian Capitalist with free market views on trade and property, I recognize there are other ways of viewing property rights and for those with socialist views to embrace Libertarian ideas on personal rights I think is a good thing. Libertarian ideas need to spread and influence all types of political thinking, which is why I think LSF is a great alliance for turning those with communist/socialist viewpoints towards being more libertarian. Therefore I fully support LSF and consider them great allies of the libertarian cause, therefore I do not recognize this coup as valid and fully support my libertarian friends in LSF. The key to Libertarianism is recognizing the importance of freedom and that nobody should infringe upon the freedom of others to do things how they want. As I understand it most socialist libertarian viewpoints don't consider it valid to make everyone conform to their system with force, but communities can setup in which those living there choose be part of a system with everyone sharing resources. Although libertarian socialists don't believe in using force to seize property from those who do not want to take part in collective ownership, but that both types of libertarians could co-exist with their own views on how to go about life without infringing upon the freedom of others. [/quote] You sir must create an embassy with us. I would like to learn more about IRON and your knowledge of the left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted October 17, 2011 Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 [quote name='ZeroRemorse' timestamp='1318812325' post='2826553'] You sir must create an embassy with us. [/quote] Lately I've been busy with other things and haven't had much time for CN beyond stopping by OWF for the occasional post, but when I have more time for CN and not so busy maybe I will. Are there a lot of libertarian thinkers in your alliance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroRemorse Posted October 17, 2011 Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 We are a mixed breed in our alliance. I am Socialist but do agree with a lot of Libertarian ideals. Some of us are actual full blown commies, or anarchists. But overall you will find that we have a very open mind to anyone's views (except fascists). Hell we are chummy with NPO as opposed to the rest of the left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnCapistan Posted October 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 [quote name='sap3179' timestamp='1318792774' post='2826333'] 2008 onwards, the institution that holds the great flags of exploitation, theft and sometimes downright robbing is being worn down, ultimately perhaps resulting in a new order. [/quote] We're getting rid of the state? [quote] Perhaps I spoke too much. But let me say this- sometimes ago, there used to be a micro alliance, named the capitalist order, whose members used to declare war on anyone who had anything that resembled Marxism or Socialism, or Communism in any way-nation bio, or Government preference and was in their range, a NOOB. Today that pigpen no longer exists. Despite self proclamations as a warrior, and knowledge of this particular game, I say you are no better than them and same fate awaits you, the infallible darkness of being no longer remembered, as it should to anyone who tries to defend a common raid in the shadow of a particular ideology. [/quote] Son, I destroyed the United States of America single-handedly. You'd best learn some respect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordliam Posted October 17, 2011 Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 [quote name='VladimirLenin' timestamp='1318740445' post='2826070'] LSF has no gov to coup. [/quote] Go home guys. This guy's already said every thing that needed to be said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sap3179 Posted October 17, 2011 Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Mr Damsky' timestamp='1318823544' post='2826829'] We're getting rid of the state? Son, I destroyed the United States of America single-handedly. You'd best learn some respect [/quote] Your ignorance astounds me. Better look around a bit. Have you looked at a news paper lately? Child, your world revolves around CN, that I understand. But still you would need to grow up a bit, there are tough times ahead particularly ignoramus such as yourself, if you dont want end up in the lowlands. You want to give respect to be respected, and better learn to take an opponent who matches you. Why not declare on international? afraid, boy? I will always be there when your ns matches mine, alright? sap3179 Edited October 17, 2011 by sap3179 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
generals3 Posted October 17, 2011 Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 [quote name='LittleRena' timestamp='1318783011' post='2826272'] No, I favour equality, which capitalism doesn't support. [/quote] Isn't equality towards unequal beings even more wrong than unequal treatments? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opaque Posted October 17, 2011 Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 I thought this was a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sap3179 Posted October 17, 2011 Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 [quote name='ZeroRemorse' timestamp='1318812325' post='2826553'] You speak of the truth comrade. This post along with its founder will soon die and become archived....possibly gravedug in the future. He is no threat to anyone with a nation like his so I say we ignore him and let him join whoever he joins. You sir must create an embassy with us. I would like to learn more about IRON and your knowledge of the left. [/quote] Thanks for asking me this. Our forums are WWW.Iron-command.com. Its a more game oriented alliance, rather than political. About Damsky I really do not have any views if he choses to raid an alliance, or his political views outside the game. Saying that, I found it reprehensible and rather revolting that he chose to condemn my ideology for raiding, and quoting something like communist manifesto, calling it "communist scum", knowing absolutely nothing what it meant. You know, Hatred comes from fear, fear of the unknown and incomprehensible. those who are different from us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddyyo Posted October 17, 2011 Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 [quote name='Mr Damsky' timestamp='1318823544' post='2826829'] We're getting rid of the state? Son, I destroyed the United States of America single-handedly. You'd best learn some respect [/quote] I'm pretty sure that was actually one of the handful of things Batallion did right while he was here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anu Drake Posted October 17, 2011 Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 [quote name='Captain Spock' timestamp='1318854894' post='2827112'] I thought this was a joke. [/quote] It is. Damsky is a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnCapistan Posted October 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 [quote name='sap3179' timestamp='1318852702' post='2827097'] Your ignorance astounds me. Better look around a bit. Have you looked at a news paper lately? [/quote] Explain to me how I am ignorant? Oh, you can't? You mean everything I said was true? You mean you endorse legal assault? Legal theft? Legal slavery? You disgust me. You and your ilk are nothing more than leeches in a pond, sucking the blood out of those who produce, while you only consume. You condemn those who are successful, yet at the same time stealing the fruits of their labor that keep you alive. You steal, attack and enslave and at the same time scream "Oppression!". The day shall soon come when the oligarchs of the world shall beg for mercy, and with my boot upon their neck I shall quietly say, "No". [quote] You want to give respect to be respected, and better learn to take an opponent who matches you. [/quote] I'm clearly a coward for taking on...everyone? Good logic, buddy! [quote name='Anu Drake' timestamp='1318861070' post='2827144'] It is. Damsky is a joke. [/quote] Coming from NATO, I find this hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asewland Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 [quote]Remember that once upon our history Democracy and your capitalism were a pipe dream too. Funny how they became a reality. So in turn the equality we want will one day be achieved with or without your support. [/quote] How are you going to make naturally unequal beings equal w/o force? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereno Posted October 18, 2011 Report Share Posted October 18, 2011 [quote name='asewland' timestamp='1318896326' post='2827441'] How are you going to make naturally unequal beings equal w/o force? [/quote] You're not making unequal people be equal, you're making unequal quantities of money and things equal. True wealth is intangible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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