sap3179

Its quite unfortunate to read these things about VE. Most of the time I fought VE nations were at the end of thee nations declaring on them, and some of them still fought back. I dont know whether its idiotic, or not, but certainly brave and courageous. To those who are trashing our opposition, its not honourable, gentlemen.

Despite all the chest thumping, Another one falls. Nice!

Woe to the vanquished- Livy.

If, that answers your question, a MK member hits IRON with some other AA, goes back to his original AA after being countered, and moans, when his nation is in shambles about being hit even though MK is not in direct conflict with IRON.

Now that the surrenders have started to come...

perceived?

The first casualty from the competence side have been announced. Lets see how much that affects the scene.

I do not think there will be any surrenders from the competence side. You are too good. Oh my God, somebody save me! and to think this graph was made in a completely honest way and is not someones wet dream.

Dave is more beautiful than Helen of Troy.

[quote name='keeology' timestamp='1340578998' post='2994781'] seriously man little piss off? yeah that was posted. cry me a river build me a bridge and get over it. PN wanted to apologize for the part he played he playing the part of the big boy. [/quote] Nice to see MCXA trying to be playmaker here . Had a honorable fight, LSF, Post a formal apology now. Should have done this much earlier.

[quote name='VLADITRON' timestamp='1321943561' post='2848774'] Tutti di persone... non vogliamo pace. Viviamo per guerra. [i]TU[/i] vive per guerra. Bob è costruito per guerra, ma abbiamo paura. Che casino! Salverò le vostre anime. Good sir, you have a passion in your heart that is increasingly rare on Bob. I encourage you to channel your convictions into a cleansing fury - experience the thrill of warfare on Bob before your passion is swept away into a sea of back-collecting and post count building. As for a duel - the great alliance-state of IRON has already dispatched one of its brave, well-prepared warriors to the VODKA battlefields in Danvey of Brunota. However, as I mentioned previously, I suspect his assault on the holy lands of North Central Vladitronics is indicative of IRON's tacit approval, as Danvey has injected many millions of dollars into the VODKA war effort through a slew of failed ground attacks. I thank IRON for its continued aid and support in VODKA's battle against the Mostly Harmless Alliance. [/quote] So you probe the accusation of theft to be true. Good. And we vow to cleanse Bob of you. Nothing personal, just relieving ourselves of pests. As for the latin phrase, it is a [b]phrase[/b], not done using google translate. As for Danvey, I am sure you will not sing the same tune after seven days are over.

[quote name='VLADITRON' timestamp='1321898574' post='2848212'] I have also neglected to mention the net loss of over 4,000 MHA NS, and raw losses of over 6,500 MHA NS (including tech and military losses that have since been repurchased) that have resulted from the 1 on 5 battle that is currently ongoing. However, your small-minded comment is representative of the old ways of thinking. VODKA welcomes the cleansing destruction of its NS through warfare, so long as its nations may continue to experience the thrill of battle. War on Bob has inherent value - it is the end itself, not a means to the hollow complacency brought by NS alone. Without war, NS has no value or meaning - so long as VODKA can bring warfare to Bob, we are victorious. [/quote] Its very good how you say it - suppressio veri suggestio falsi. True, you have made losses against the alliance you have attacked, and its because you held the first strike against them; against nations which were not prepared for the battle- without warchests or preparations. For example, one of the nations you struck against had no military improvements at all, lest any wonders. You on the other hand, prepared for this, from the day of your existence. Most of your improvements are military, and the only wonder you have is a pentagon. Are we to be left wondering where it comes from? now of course, it would be a whole another story. Aid would come pouring in, and advices would be given to the players how to to handle this war. Notably, one of our members, Davian Thule, aka Marmeus Calgar have asked you for a duel. You are destroying newbies, and taking their money, so it won't take too much time to reach his level I hope? if you (eventually) reach that stage, I believe, you would not be craven enough to teach the impetuous boy a good lesson, right? Now for your second point, It was said, there is never a just war that that is better than an unjust peace. CN is far from real world, rather far from it. We do live for wars, in peace we prepare for it. But even so, it was a great general who said, without victuals, an army is nothing more than canon fodder. You prepared for the battle for months, fighting against someone who has no experience, nor money for the battle. I don't think this war is as much fun for those who has been at the receiving end. What you call victory is something I spit upon.If so brave why don't take someone your own size? Again, your sense of righteousness is twisted to see your own ends. You stole our war and military guides, written by one of the best players in the game and was brazen enough to suggest you made grammatic corrections to it. Thief, I say to you, because that is what you are, nothing more, and nothing less, trying to garb yourself in an cloak of rectitude and virtue. In the end, everyone that plays this game, plays how they please. You have done the same. However, you can not dictate how others play, neither can you humiliate entire alliances (I don't know what you were trying to prove with the last part, for in my dictionary it's called idiocy plain and simple). To be true, we know how it ends, you will lose all your infra in no time, and after that you will(hopefully) be kept in that stage permanently, unless you chose to leave the game and return with a new ruler name, as I suggested earlier. Ps: be kind enough to show me the grammatical mistakes, I tried rather hard to not make any, but then, you know better.

[quote name='VLADITRON' timestamp='1321856319' post='2847914'] The streets of Bob run red with the blood of the Mostly Harmless Alliance. After only 48 hours, the VODKA Empire has delivered many mighty blows to the comically ineffective MHA warriors that dare oppose it. An extremely effective blitz was countered meekly with failed ground attacks and a handful of cruise missiles. The "warchests" of these blasphemous nations have been plundered ad nauseum, and the VODKA Empire has actually seen a net gain in funds since the attacks began. Details of the warchests of select MHA Nations can be found [url=http://cnvodka.com/forums/index.php?topic=313.0]HERE[/url]. Of particular merit is [url=http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=291653]kker22 of Darkram[/url], a 5k NS nation who, during his 1,013 day tenure in the Mostly Harmless Alliance, has managed to stockpile a staggering warchest of $9,056. I would also like to thank the alliance-state IRON for the war aid they are providing to the VODKA empire. They have nobly sacrificed [url=http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=469958]Danvey of Brunota[/url], who has been visiting VODKA battlefields to abandon $1,000,000+ twice per day. IRON managed to act swiftly and sacrifice this leader to VODKA just 29 short hours after VODKA's original blitz, well before the MHA war machine could find a third active member to attack North Central Vladitronics. As always, VODKA awaits those warriors brave enough to follow their hearts and use the NS they have hoarded to change the face of Bob and bring down the MHA blight. No longer can a culture of inactivity and incompetence be tacitly rewarded by a dispassionate society that fails to demand excellence. Abandon your fears and LIVE as we were intended! [/quote] What u fail to mention is a loss of more than a thousand ns, 15% of your current nation strength.

Well, um, good luck? but, in truth, chose a different ruler name next time. If you don't like the comment, it may be that I just went to your website and lost a lot a lot of IQ while reading some of the topics.

[quote name='Mr Damsky' timestamp='1318980662' post='2828268'] The majority of the working class do not support slavery (sorry Communism). [/quote] Please explain. Firstly, how communism supports slavery. I would argue, 300 years ago some capitalist industries in the world was sponsored by slavery, like cotton industry in America, or East India company (some years revenues actually came entirely from selling slaves). Secondly, do they support murderous exploitation then? I only ask this, because most believe capitalism to be a necessary evil, rather than the blessing you are trying to make us believe.

[quote name='Mr Damsky' timestamp='1318893227' post='2827401'] Explain to me how I am ignorant? Oh, you can't? You mean everything I said was true? You mean you endorse legal assault? Legal theft? Legal slavery? You disgust me. You and your ilk are nothing more than leeches in a pond, sucking the blood out of those who produce, while you only consume. You condemn those who are successful, yet at the same time stealing the fruits of their labor that keep you alive. You steal, attack and enslave and at the same time scream "Oppression!". The day shall soon come when the oligarchs of the world shall beg for mercy, and with my boot upon their neck I shall quietly say, "No". I'm clearly a coward for taking on...everyone? Good logic, buddy! Coming from NATO, I find this hilarious. [/quote] Oh my, What an answer! As I stated earlier, you know nothing about Marxism, which this also proves. You are only upset because I toppled your cart over, and the angrier we get the stupider we become. Still, let me counter your shining riposte. You say, We, I mean me and my "ilk" suck the blood out of those who produce. Who exactly do you mean? capitalists? do they go and work in factories themselves? I thought its the working class! the fact of the matter is its the workers who does the work. Capitalists only buy their labour, their blood, their sweat, the time they ought to spend with their family but spend in the sweltering heat of the factory, whatever you want to call it. To make them forget of their miseries, the society had to invent need. Need to send their children to a better school, need to buy that piece of cloth wife always craved, or the need give something to his father on his 80th birthday, and to fulfill that need they need to overwork even after their schedule. You accuse me of being exploitive, and what-not, but truly, its capitalism which invented words like greed or exploitation. You ask me if I support legal theft, by that I believe you mean if I support nationalisation of production. The only way to relieve ourselves of the evils of capitalism is to do just so. But in even the ardently communist countries private property is respected, as long as it does not interfere with production of goods, and does not initiate profits from the same. Your house or garden can not be taken away. I would end this post with an anecdote. Your friend's signature reads "The state is gay" apart from smiling at the notion that being homosexual may actually be a crime, let me get into history, my favorite subject a bit more. Believe it or not, the state after the industrial revolution became more and more capitalist. In England, fertile fields were acquired by lords for raising ships. The wool business was highly profitable at the time. The land less crowded the streets of London, so a law was enacted, by which loitering in streets was made a criminal offence. Those who can joined the ranks of working class of the factories, behemoths of new world, and those who can't, died out. Sir Thomas More said "Sheep ate men". They lost twice, first their lands and homes and then again their society, friends and relatives-unwilling sacrifices so a better world can be made. Do you find this amusing? at least a little bit?

[quote name='ZeroRemorse' timestamp='1318812325' post='2826553'] You speak of the truth comrade. This post along with its founder will soon die and become archived....possibly gravedug in the future. He is no threat to anyone with a nation like his so I say we ignore him and let him join whoever he joins. You sir must create an embassy with us. I would like to learn more about IRON and your knowledge of the left. [/quote] Thanks for asking me this. Our forums are WWW.Iron-command.com. Its a more game oriented alliance, rather than political. About Damsky I really do not have any views if he choses to raid an alliance, or his political views outside the game. Saying that, I found it reprehensible and rather revolting that he chose to condemn my ideology for raiding, and quoting something like communist manifesto, calling it "communist scum", knowing absolutely nothing what it meant. You know, Hatred comes from fear, fear of the unknown and incomprehensible. those who are different from us.

[quote name='Mr Damsky' timestamp='1318823544' post='2826829'] We're getting rid of the state? Son, I destroyed the United States of America single-handedly. You'd best learn some respect [/quote] Your ignorance astounds me. Better look around a bit. Have you looked at a news paper lately? Child, your world revolves around CN, that I understand. But still you would need to grow up a bit, there are tough times ahead particularly ignoramus such as yourself, if you dont want end up in the lowlands. You want to give respect to be respected, and better learn to take an opponent who matches you. Why not declare on international? afraid, boy? I will always be there when your ns matches mine, alright? sap3179

[quote name='Mr Damsky' timestamp='1318785054' post='2826281'] There is no such thing as equality. It is a physically impossible pipe dream. [/quote] No, its not. The inequality has existed for thousands of years, there exists passages in world's first book about the inequality that exists between a large farmer, and the landless tenant who ploughed his land, and even before that in the cities of Sumeria or Indus (about 3150-2400 BC) inequality can be seen in the domicile structures, that of a wealthy merchant, and that of a worker employed in granary or pottery. It is only in last 150 years that a true form of socialism has been formed and propounded. Yes, it did have some issues, ultimately backtracking in the form of fall of Soviet Russia, but so has Capitalism! 2008 onwards, the institution that holds the great flags of exploitation, theft and sometimes downright robbing is being worn down, ultimately perhaps resulting in a new order. Perhaps I spoke too much. But let me say this- sometimes ago, there used to be a micro alliance, named the capitalist order, whose members used to declare war on anyone who had anything that resembled Marxism or Socialism, or Communism in any way-nation bio, or Government preference and was in their range, a NOOB. Today that pigpen no longer exists. Despite self proclamations as a warrior, and knowledge of this particular game, I say you are no better than them and same fate awaits you, the infallible darkness of being no longer remembered, as it should to anyone who tries to defend a common raid in the shadow of a particular ideology.

I hope to see the capitalist pig die.

[quote name='MrHavok' timestamp='1318634232' post='2825229'] Yes I'm talking a person who never sold out my principals or my morals simply to suck up to those in power just like my friends in TLR I'm not a sell out like the majority of irons kiddie council Keep up the good work TLR you are doing something right when iron acts like a jilted lover one year later It will be a shame when MHA gets sold out [/quote] I hope not to see to many posts from you, for the simple reason , they may make 16 year old IRON members dimwitted.

[quote name='MrHavok' timestamp='1318614552' post='2825004'] I see you are still a farce [/quote] Look who is talking.

[quote name='Azaghul' timestamp='1297501539' post='2630199'] Finally teh awr we should have had in worst war ever! DI TOOL! [/quote] Life contracts and death is expected, As in a season of autumn. The soldier falls. He does not become a three-days personage, Imposing his separation, Calling for pomp. Death is absolute and without memorial, As in a season of autumn, When the wind stops, When the wind stops and, over the heavens, The clouds go, nevertheless, In their direction. just my two cents. No harm meant.

ok, u2.

Good luck TOOL