Johnny Apocalypse

I would have thought it was apparent that it doesn't matter where I am I will still open my big mouth. Shoo yourself! Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look?

Of course they did, they are very active!

In their eyes you have shrunk yourselves to irrelevancy though. How full is the glass; you say potato etc.

That's very considerate of you, I feel all warm inside now. You can't spell 'cancerous' without 'us' Also did you polar too stupid to read?

In all seriousness; if no one else wants to help out I could do some light tinkeringg/proof-reading but I'm upto my eyeballs in all this red tape we have laying around in GATO. My point was more to see if others might be interested in getting involved and open up the floor for discussion. War's over now, so we might as well do something until we start bashing each other's heads in again. Who knows; maybe it'd speed things up in that respect 🤷‍♂️

Would it help if I offered a glass of warm milk and cookies? Maybe some slippers by the fireplace? Perhaps even a hot Cosby? Of course theres no tangible benefit to getting involved beyond making it fun for yourself to do. I know Smitty's been pretty much doing it solo for a while and thought it worth mentioning in case anyone was interested and had the time to assist him with this endeavour. Thought it was something worth talking about as a community for once instead of being super cool and apathetic- I mean, like y'know whatever.

What an insightful and astute observation. Thanks for sharing! Don't cry because it's over; smile because it happened

The CN Wiki has long been the one-stop shop for cataloguing the long history of every fledgling nation or alliance of note that has come and gone on Planet Bob. It's maintenance is often a thankless job and usually only carried out by a single leader. So in advance of the rumoured World Summit; I would like to pose the question to the community to nominate and vote on two additional candidates to work alongside the tireless efforts of Smitty of FTW. Feel free to nominate yourselves too of course! A larger team of editors from different corners of the world will ensure the Wiki remains an impartial and reliable source of information for those newer to this planet who are curious to learn more about key events throughout history; allow for accurate checking of historical events that may have set a precedent to refer back to in order to guide us and of course to lighten the load for the one sole editor and allow for alternative perspectives/accounts of events that have (and will happen) on this planet. Please nominate no more than two candidates, the deadline for people to be nominated and potential nominees to accept will be 00:00 Planet Bob Time on January 10th. Voting will commence shortly after this deadline in the form of a poll on this forum. I'll start by nominating @Tevron and @jerdge - One candidate from a polar opposite corner of the planet and of course a neutral candidate. Signed: Johnny Apocalypse, Deputy Minister of Justice and Deputy Minister of Defence for GATO

Woo ranked #141 I'll take it. [IC]The former alliance of Ouroboros resents it's quiet exclusion from the bias lamestream media alliance rankings but the present day leader is now ambivalent and finds it funny.[/IC] In all seriousness though, good work on this for the past few months Piejonk

Sekonded

Thanks hivemind member number 8, it is one of many So what special trick did they give you, the ability to lick your own taint? So many gaskets being blown here it's beautiful, no one won the war so now we fight over the name instead.

Should I make you a new thread to spare you the need to have a tantrum about it too?

I'll call it whatever I want regardless of what the community decides. Everyone calls wars they've fought in by their own preferred name, sure there's a consensus among the community but people can call it whatever they want. So if you insecure little spoilt heroes want to hold the spotlight and call it Herogasm you're more than welcome to, just don't expect everyone else to agree or care. I know I won't. You are Homelander pretending to be Soldier Boy- an inferior product.

Poor Herogasm, they just want to be loved

I for one look forward to the 19th War of Argent Relevancy.

Oh I know, I thought a compromise between the two might be appreciated as a suggestion and to lighten the otherwise weirdly tense mood

Electrogasm?

I believe I did make it known we were arranging a counter assault to you and informed you which alliances were going to be participating in that- as well as the agreed week long timeframe that this counter would last for which you all signed off on except for an absent CLAWS. The one thing I did not inform you of was who would be targetted because ultimately? We were at war, I wasn't about to show my entire hand to an enemy combatant who I did not trust and there was never an explicit requirement that we attacked all of RFI- just that we would be launching a counter-offensive in retaliation. It's a good thing Lyanna stepped in to fix it, especially as I had been awake for about 2-3 days negotiating with your camp and until a last minute call from CLAWS one hour before the end of the ceasefire to say "nah we aren't okay with this, we just want WP for everyone" despite being intentionally absent from the negotiations and were essentially (as far as I saw it ) playing chicken with the 48hr ceasefire both camps agreed upon. At that stage I had already mobilised Boognish to launch our offensive and there was no calling it off, so really you should be looking at your own allies deliberate absence from the peace talks. If they had spoken up sooner then we could've ironed out that key detail which threatened to "torpedo" the peace" - I was there for the entirety of those proceedings, your allies decided it wasn't worth their time until the last minute. If anyone threatened that peace it was primarily your allies, not mine. I was an enemy combatant with allies who had a score to settle, it should have come as no surprise to you that we chose to target CLAWS frankly. All the same, I appreciate the perspective from your camp here so thank you. All I had to operate on at the time was what we discussed in the negotiations. You were all on board with the plan until CLAWS spoke up and you began backpedalling, asking for an extension of the ceasefire when they did finally chime in. You launched an overkill offensive on my alliance and my allies in Non Grata, I wasn't in the mood to acquise and give the order to stand down because of CLAWS deliberate negligence in the negotiations.

Yes it ended because Oculus and Polar ally Legion neglected to fulfill their treaty obligation regarding the sharing of intelligence when they decided to collectively jump on both of our heads- specifically Non Grata because you were and remain allies. As a result, Polar stepped in to ensure the conflict was brought to a close or else Polar would have militarily defended Non Grata. The hegemony reluctantly acquiesed because they could not afford to lose another ally in Polar as FTW were already on their way out of the RFI bloc. They launched a war on intel acquired via dubious means and had not the capital to follow through without losing clout. It was after that war that space opened up for a coalition like RFD to begin working towards the war we just fought in. If they'd just jumped on COBRA then we'd have been screwed, if they had just jumped on NG then COBRA and our allies would have rode to your defense at the time because we were still allied. That's why our allies ended up launching a counter-offensive when literally none of your allies except for Polar stepped up offering to do the same. At the time we collectively considered you to be friends, this obviously changed pretty rapidly in the aftermath of that war as you well know. I was at the negotiating table with Stewie, I don't need to write myself into a history I'm already a part of. Sure is, that's why I party with the Sith on other planets. I prefer to mingle with folk on an individual basis here nowadays.

In some respects it is but it isn't decisive, considering all the effort put into this war for it to end in white peace? It's a pretty anti-climactic outcome for a coalition known as Herogasm. You're right, so if we follow that line of thinking? They ceased to be an hegemony in early 2020 when Oculus and RFI were forced into granting White Peace (with the assistance of Polar) to Non Grata and COBRA after they dogpiled both alliances. COBRA allies countered CLAWS for a week as a tit-for-tat retaliation and FTW left/were ejected from (depending on who you ask I don't care) the RFI bloc. The hegemony failed to crush their opponents not due to a lack of strength but a lack of political capital as they had also lost a key ally and the underdogs got away with a counter-attack against one of them with no repercussions. The hegemony at that time is the same as the hegemony of this time, if you think about it their reign actually ended then and this would be more accurately seen as a sideways move by other forces who are trying to establish a new one. My argument would be that they have failed to establish it with this war and have merely clearly defined who the opposition are. If you trace it back, the new paradigm began in the wake of the Bicycle War where the Hegemony failed to destroy/undermine the alliances that they knew posed a threat to them.

It does! I enjoy writing not because it makes me feel important, it's just a fun creative outlet. Maybe you should make a bit more of an effort and give it a go (you know, just as a precaution if your cult collapses and you have nobody to validate your existence again) That's okay, I know I have unreasonable standards so it was expected. True and I love it, I don't have to engage with morons if I don't feel like it and I can spit bile where I please. Much better to live on my own terms than to wind up a mindless droog living in caustic's shadow like yourself 🤷‍♂️ I remember a time long ago when you were capable of independent thought. That kool-aid must be something eh?

I guess that's where we differ (among many other ways); I don't see this as a career and a quest for relevance whereas you do and really pride yourself on that. Whatever helps you feel important and sleep at night though I guess! Getting under your skins for you to come out collectively to line up and tell me how irrelevant I am is endlessly entertaining. Hegemony is still there though? You cut down their mid-tiers and bashed each other for about 6 months but nothing has actually changed in the grand scheme of things. You haven't reshaped any paradigm and we still live in very much the same world as before you launched your offensive except now you have more casualties and less money. The one thing you have accomplished is that you've just made your opposition to the Hegemony known and established it with your network of allies and treaties, if you'd truly re-shaped the landscape then you'd be the ones in charge and they would be surrendering to you rather than both of you conceding to white peace. If you truly were victorious you would have sued for a surrender but we both know that neither you nor the Hegemony met the conditions that would equate to a victory. This is just a temporary lull and I have no doubt you or they will attempt this again in the future to actually accomplish those goals, I look forward to seeing if either of you succeed in doing so next time. The reality is that neither of you could win this fight as it stands and if you really want to re-shape the landscape it's gonna take a do-over on your part. Just because you're louder in public than they are doesn't change the fact they they out-stat you on a massive scale, if there weren't restrictions in place that prevented a mass down-declare? You guys would've hands down lost this fight. That's the objective reality of things, no matter how much you thump your chests about this. Whatever you think my 'wettest dreams' are I can assure you that you're sorely mistaken with whatever your perception of that might be. I'm quite content to just roam around, take potshots at people and defend allies/alliances who I believe to have just cause for defense or aggression according to what is outlined in the Moldavi Doctrine. In case you hadn't noticed, I don't play favourites when it comes to running my mouth about people- you're not special. Difference is that when I run my mouth about how terrible CLAWS/NPO/Doom are, they don't rush to the forum to trot out the same tired lines and their egos aren't so easily bruised by the mildest of criticism.

So what you're saying is your big old Herogasm actually accomplished nothing; DBDC can and probably will raid again and your coalition made no significant impact on their ability to do so. That's why you agreed to white peace; neither of you won. You just revealed weak links in the chain on either side of the conflict. Hopefully next time we'll see the people actually willing to put up and fight without meatshields. A girl can dream....

You barely touched them too though 🤷‍♂️ Says the guy from CCC

Yeah, that is the standard response one should have to being attacked- defend yourselves. If you're happy to continue destroying their tech why did you agree to peace? I'll answer; both sides ran out of targets in range to have any meaningful impact on the balance of power and had fought to stalemate. Also a number of alliances from both coalitions weren't really contributing anything anyway. Maybe next time everyone can streamline their respective coalitions, rather than attempt to throw enough crap at a wall and hope that it sticks long enough for someone to declare a decisive victory.