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[quote name='Sabcat' timestamp='1323301946' post='2867872'] You're not alone. I think the guns are there to compensate for the lack of anything worth saying. [b]"I'm a retard, but I've got a gun, look at my gun and ignore the gormless look on my face[/b]" [/quote] Why else do people buy guns?

[quote name='ScratchScreen' timestamp='1323294833' post='2867742'] TAKE ACTION against those who deceive you. TAKE ACTION against those who bully you. TAKE ACTION against those who scare you. [b]Why do alliances fear war? Sometimes they are the only option![/b] Welcome to Defreyna! A new alliance, formed by the "man of the minute", ScratchScreen. Don't hide from the truth-embrace it! Take Action against all! Every nation has the potential to be amazing! Defreyna key beliefs: [list] [*]Every Nation is the same [*]Every nation is equally valuable [b][*]We should not fear war, or try to avoid it[/b] [*]Alliances should not keep secrets from their members [*]Information should be accessed through deception [/list] [/quote] My only question is, who is this a DoW against

Courtesy of Adel: [IMG]http://i542.photobucket.com/albums/gg414/salovskyj/natopropaganda-wip2.png[/IMG] Not incredibly happy with the text here, open to suggestions: [IMG]http://i542.photobucket.com/albums/gg414/salovskyj/turningdowntheac.png[/IMG]

I don't think this should be considered an announcement. For it to be an announcement there has to be actual information in it, and all I can gather is that... FAN's mad bro.

As one of the "new" members, or at least a re-roll, I plan on staying around for now. When I go out it'll be in stunning fashion, but I hope that doesn't happen for a while.

Shoutout to CMW2212 for handing me my first nuke, and for being the only one of three FAN nations to thwart my spy attacks.

This doesn't put Valhalla on the same level as NPL, NPL is far worse.

Gopher 20 score makes me feel all silly inside.

[quote name='Varianz' timestamp='1323134932' post='2864703'] That's good. Be proud of your stupidity. [/quote] He doesn't have anything else to be proud of. Even if these were legitimate questions, you should give a minimum of 48-72 hours before calling someone out like this. At least then you'd have the timing right.

o/ Olympus o/ BAPS Give em hell guys.

[quote name='Believland' timestamp='1323076980' post='2863553'] Opposed to the 15 year old morons who cannot grasp politics? [/quote] I'd rather share my lunch break with a freshman than a 7th grader who keeps giggling when he hears the word 'boobs'. Granted, it's not much of an improvement, but still.

http://i542.photobucket.com/albums/gg414/salovskyj/Untitled-5.png That's my cheap contribution, I'll do more later when I get Photoshop back.

o/ Pacifica o/ NATO o/ TPF We ride to win. Van porn: [spoiler] [img]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_gTJMEP-c2fo/SFviIIEy8OI/AAAAAAAAAkI/Os-YfNQvIA8/s400/cameravan3.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.weirdpalace.com/img/fun/cool-vans/cool-vans30.jpg[/img] [img]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_gfXupHOEhH0/SmxeSmK6ptI/AAAAAAAAHuk/tdHVDur3kW8/s400/scooby3mysterymachine.jpg[/img] [img]http://image.automotive.com/f/features/8102825+pheader/0202_01zoom+1999_chevrolet_astro_van+front_side_view.jpg[/img] [img]http://farm1.static.flickr.com/165/414848577_f0f00d55c6.jpg[/img][/spoiler]

Good to be fighting alongside you. o/

Don't know if its been suggested already, but the 'Goddamn I Just Finished My Turkey' War.

[quote name='New Frontier' timestamp='1322980974' post='2861899'] Out of curiousity, a dinosaur themed alliance is less serious than a Conan O'Brien themed persona because of...? [/quote] Which is less serious than Kermit because... If you want to delve into why I picked that avatar, fine, but for the record my nation 'persona' isn't based on Conan. [quote name='Melancholy Culkin' timestamp='1323017035' post='2862309'] What makes me laugh is that this dude apparently thinks our entire alliance is [b]dedicated only to recruiting and has no other sort of programs in place[/b]. I guess I can take solace in knowing that Deinos will never be as stale and burned out as NATO if we only have three months left. [/quote] I said Deinos focuses on that. From looking through alliance pages and skimming the aid charts, its pretty clear that the focus is building up membership. The fact that some nations (roughly half that I looked at) have not filled their aid slots and don't have coherent trade circles, either you have an amazing amount of ghosts, or the development of alliance members isn't a priority. [quote name='Magister Agricolarum' timestamp='1322998604' post='2862146'] Oh, you had one? [/quote] Is this your idea of a retort, or can you not see my point? Maybe you do only have three months...

[quote name='King Xander the Only' timestamp='1322977153' post='2861694'] Hahaha you're a !@#$@#$ idiot. Have fun, TSO. [/quote] That just about sums it all up.

I like dem phasers.

[quote name='Gingervites' timestamp='1322978358' post='2861800'] [b]WOOT more DoW's[/b], Good luck to both of your alliances and have fun. [/quote] The OWF is so pretty this time of year.

[quote name='Magister Agricolarum' timestamp='1322975188' post='2861589'] Well, we've obviously been around long enough to irritate you to the extent that you've decided to subject us to the weight of your scorn, which is, I'm sure, considerable. Yes, we are currently gaining members at a rapid pace. It's a nice gimmick to have, and something that we can bring up at cocktail parties! However, given that over half of our government members have been around since at least 2007 and have served in alliances all across Planet Bob, we do have a modicum of an idea about how alliances function (or don't). Incidentally, growth through development programs and mass recruitment need not be mutually exclusive! Our researchers actually discovered this quite recently. Indeed, it was only last month that we discontinued our long-beloved practice of using aid chains! Of course, I was saddened to learn that the aid slot efficiency of our alliance, filled as it is with an average of 1.5 new members each day, is a relatively poor 38.7%, while the slot efficiency of your properly developed alliance checks in nearly 5% higher, an outstanding 43.6%. We are glad that you have taken it upon yourself to reach out and bless us with your council, so we can see the error of our ways. I wish I were able to address your comment about "every single alliance that's been in [our] position", but sadly, I do not possess your encyclopedic knowledge. I'll have to take your word that every alliance that ever went through a period of highly successful recruiting has crashed, burned, and died a fiery death. We are also appreciative of your insight into what is occurring inside of our alliance, and your kind wish that we enjoy our year (of which only three and a half months remain ). [/quote] Obviously you missed the point. You take yourselves oh so seriously, and then whenever backed into an argument, resort to ill advised exclamation marks and overwhelming sarcasm. Clearly that 2007 experience has worked its wonders on all of you. Since you obviously have missed the point, let me make it clear: every alliance has made the same claims you have, yet few have survived. The fact that you're the fastest growing alliance doesn't mean any more than GATO being the oldest surviving alliance. If you are not one of the few, than history shows you have give-or-take three months. If not, congratulations, maybe one day you'll even be taken seriously. But for now, its just comical to see a dinosaur themed alliance shout "We're for real! We know what we're doing!"

Non Grata or Umbrella. New Polar Order is almost as laughable as TGE.

[quote name='Magister Agricolarum' timestamp='1322964972' post='2861272'] I'm just here to point out the fact that you're trashing the concept of recruiting in a thread about recruiting. [/quote] I'm not trashing recruiting. I'm trashing the fact that Deinos is so pathetic they feel the need to bring up "we're the fastest gainer" in every post in order to feel like one of the big boys. You try so hard I smile. Every single alliance that's been in your position has made that claim and few stand today. NATO actually focuses on growth and proper development more than recruiting a bunch of new kids every day. Yes, I understand there's some upper-tier nations in there. Congrats. You merged two micro alliances and have managed to be within half of a respectable score. You guys remind me of an alliance I used to be fond of, The Ravyns. Their claim was the same as yours and they recruited their way to impressive numbers. However, due to horrible management and poor growth programs, within a year it was dead. It's happened time and time again and its probably what's happening to Deinos. Enjoy your year.

[quote name='Bubblefat' timestamp='1322949909' post='2860962'] lol@ Legion [/quote] Come on now, he's not that -- Oh my.

Advertisements actually aren't a bad idea. But it could attract a lot of 13 year old morons who don't know anything about cafeteria politics, or a group that comes over and "invades". Either way it'll be interesting.

Another classic: [img]http://images.wikia.com/cybernations/images/4/45/Standproudsig2.png[/img]