Hyperion321

[quote name='Zoomzoomzoom' timestamp='1307216089' post='2723847'] Not to rip on Asgaard, but have they actually ever fought a war? I know Val, DT, and NoR are more than competent because everyone has seen them engage in various wars. [/quote] They have. They kicked the crap out of a lot of people in cluster$%&@. I'm sure Legion remembers them well. [quote name='HHAYD' timestamp='1307222494' post='2723903'] Just a question, how long can Umbrella maintain more than 15 or 20 members if all of their brand-new low NS recruits are constantly triple-teamed? [/quote] Umbrella doesn't recruit low NS people. Hell, they don't recruit anyone.

[quote name='Natan' timestamp='1307207231' post='2723781'] Valhalla: 11 people above 100K NS Valhalla: 4 people above 10k Tech Dark Templar: 0 Above 100K NS Dark Templar: 0 Above 10k Tech Asgaard: 11 people above 100K NS Asgaard: 3 people above 10k Tech NoR: 9 people above 100K NS NoR: 6 people above 10k Tech Umbrella: 42 people above 100K NS Umbrella: 51 people above 10k Tech Good luck... [/quote] Ouch...ya that would be tough to beat.

I completely forgot 75% of you existed until you signed this treaty. Where the hell have you been USN?

You're really starting to piss me off IRON. Take a breather for once...please.

So I was looking over various alliance statistics today, and got to thinking "Man, if Asgaard and Umbrella ever threw down, that would be one hell of a fight". Then I noticed that the strength differences were rather skewed in favor of Umb, so I thought "What if Valhalla helped Asgaard?". It kind of spiraled out of control after that and I ended up with MK, Umb, and PC on one side with Asgaard, Valhalla, Nordreich, and DT on the other in this hypothetical little contest. After that long effort of trying to pick a small number of alliances for either side that I thought would be balanced, I began to deliberate in my head on who I thought would actually win...and to be honest I can't pick one. Here are the stats (I'm fake assuming this last war didn't happen and these are all full stocked and war chested pre-war nations for the sake of argument). Stats include member count, strength, total average, and nukes. MK - 142 - 4,976,079 - 1464 Umb - 95 - 8,175,084 - 1809 PC - 66 - 2,770,742 - 837 [b] Total - 303, 15,921,905 (avg 52,547), 4110[/b] Valhalla - 117 - 4,685,000 - 1406 Nordreich - 164 - 5,251,632 - 1776 Asgaard - 51 - 3,533,150 - 1046 DT - 44 - 1,707,528 - 494 [b]Total - 376 - 15,177,320 (avg 40,365) - 4722[/b] So, as you can see it's very evenly balanced. Both sides have very skilled fighters, and extremely high war chests (Asgaard and Umb can pretty much fight forever). One on side of the equation you have numbers and nuclear superiority, on the other you have average pound for pound supremacy as well as total nation strength. Natan, Roq, and BJ are about as good of a command team you'll ever find, yet Valhalla/NoR/Asgaard are also known for being as efficient (if not more so) than anyone else in the game. Both sides have the intelligence, the cash, and certainly the stats to win, but for all my trying I simply can't decide who would win this hypothetical match up. Any thoughts? Who do you think would win? note: For people who are particularly dense, no I am not advocating that these people fight, nor do I think there is even a chance of that happening unless some serious crap happens on Black. This is simply just a statistical/hypothetical question I find intriguing enough to pass my time with.

[quote name='MrMuz' timestamp='1307116660' post='2723135'] Ha, speaking of ultimate punishments, what does it take for an alliance to be worth disbanding? [/quote] Having a different point of view. THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE.

Are you roguing or something?

ZI'ing is for sissies. Real overlords destroy their alliance.

I'll give it a month or so, if not less, before NPO gets back to being among the biggest alliances. The damage done against them this war wasn't really anything that can't be recovered quickly considering most of the fighting took place in the ankle biters, and the big people that did end up fighting were hand picked for their WC's.

Thanks for everything UE

See, I told you all Thrawn is full of crap.

Great. Now who are we going to fight? Sad to see you go TOOL, but it was for the best. I hope ya'll have fun in TPF.

I'm older.

[quote name='Sardonic' timestamp='1306342300' post='2718088'] You should demand crushing reps. [/quote] Say...90 mil?

NSO, please ZI this fool. [i]please[/i].

[quote name='Xiphosis' timestamp='1306294061' post='2717883'] Same old Mogar. Gotta learn to be more heartless bud. [/quote] I really want you two to be in a triumverate with RV just to see what would happen.

[quote name='Feanor Noldorin' timestamp='1306274896' post='2717727'] GOONS forgot to invade Ethiopia. [/quote] All in good time, my friend.

What if I don't like them all equally?

[quote name='KainIIIC' timestamp='1306208658' post='2717267'] that is simply barbaric.. (who are we talking about here again?) [/quote] Adrian. A certain duck poached him.

[quote name='Alterego' timestamp='1306149562' post='2716963'] especially those who while waging one war make plans to hit their war allies in the next war. [/quote] lolwut.

In one year MK went from 224 members and sanctioned to 142 and under 5 mil. What happened?

[quote name='KainIIIC' timestamp='1306109216' post='2716803'] Thanks by the way, for making one of the most [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=62408&view=findpost&p=1667291"]classic posts[/url] of all time in NSO's eyes. We tried to use that post, with [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V95eGgZbrU"]this video[/url] into a [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpF3jO1n9bA"]recruiting video[/url] (sound got wiped ). We also had a blast with you and your alliance in your DoW against Exodus. So thank you for all of the entertainment you've provided us [/quote] You damn barbarians poached our king (yes, poached, Banned Member admitted to it) [img]http://www.cnsparta.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/argh.gif[/img]

Well, I think this thread proved TOP and NpO aren't rivals...their arch nemeses.

Penkala vs Wicked J. Hands down. It might not be politically relevant in any way, but it's uglier than any other fight out there.

What exactly is the purpose of this thread?