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[quote name='Sandwich Controversy' timestamp='1330025560' post='2926887'] For [i]what[/i] [/quote] For ghosting a non affiliated AA in order to potentially force an already petty issue and start another global tempest in a teapot maybe? Yknow, the thing MK gov ALREADY ADMITTED TO DOING?

[quote name='Beefspari' timestamp='1330024226' post='2926874'] I knew what you were talking about. But MK already apologized for that, and that's not what this thread is about. [img]http://meru.xfury.net/images/aeris/aeriswutL1.jpg[/img] [/quote] Hold on there Turbo. You are telling me that MK gov ordering members to other AA's to offer tech deals in order to force this issue isn't related to this thread? Can I have some of what you're smoking over there, because it must be good.

If you had read my post, you would have noticed I was referencing MK ghosting other folks AA's. You have an opinion on that, or would you like to tilt at another windmill?

I'll take the latter for 500 please Alex.

[quote name='TBRaiders' timestamp='1330021229' post='2926821'] We were just experimenting with newer ways to do dumb things. Experiment failed, apologies given, moving on. [/quote] Quite a track record of poor choices you guys are assembling. Maybe you should write a book, "How to make enemies and infuriate people without really trying."

So is intentionally ghosting other people's AA's part of this policy, or are you just finding even newer ways to do dumb things?

I've got a healthy respect for STA, but the bawwing here is absurd. Polar betrayed TOP in one of the most stunning betrayals in CN history. To think that they wouldn't have to pay the piper for that is to be the height of naive.

A victory well earned TOP.

Yknow, that's really stretching it to go from "Bros NEVER used his admin powers to spy and how DARE you suggest it!" to "Well, he never spied except for that ONE time and he's REALLY sorry about it." And folks around here have been rolled for far less than that, so don't try and sell me the everyone is doing it line. No, not everyone is doing it, not everyone has done it, and trying to contextualize MK's rather blatant spying in that light is just insulting to everyone here.

Is he? It is sad, however, just how badly the ire over the messenger has covered up the truth of the message.

You've also admitted total complicity in their acts while sounding like something between a street preacher and a raving loon. You'll excuse me if I don't think people are lining up in the streets to rally behind you. EDITED TO ADD: Just so we're clear, it's some pretty heinous stuff that Roq's brought to light, and people are more than right to be questioning MK over it. But it's silly to go "Hey, here's what ME and them did that was awful, and now I'm totally different and you should all line up behind me to roll them."

I don't think it is all that dumb to argue that if there is someone to lead us all into a brave new world, it sure as frak isn't Roquentin.

[quote name='Kzoppistan' timestamp='1329277219' post='2920852'] Well, as a vassal state, I don't expect you to act of your own volition. TOP, however, would have a created a bloc even if you weren't around. No offense, Argent are one of the better allies out there, but you are more comfortable letting others take the lead. Don't worry, I'm sure your relationship with TOP will ensure your inclusion in what ever plans for the future they might have. [/quote] Right, so you don't understand us even a little bit. Got it. Thanks for clearing that up.

[quote name='Kzoppistan' timestamp='1329275730' post='2920840'] Psh, ha, TOP is PF. The rest are interchangeable. [/quote] How little you understand us.

I suppose it can be if the people involved had a reasonable belief that said high level access wasn't abused.

Don't go doin' us any favors Roq, it seems you have bigger fish to fry at the moment.

Yeah, there's pretty much no amount of Roq bashing (Full Disclosure: Can't stand him.) that will cover for all the you know what that's going to hit the fan here.

There isn't a soul in MK who has any moral standing to be talking to anyone about class.

It has been, is, and will be utterly disingenuous for MK members to claim that what has gone on here is wholly and purely related to Bob, and that absolutely nothing awful, disgusting, and repugnant has been in play in relation to outside matters. That you continue to do so is an insult to all of our intelligences.

[quote name='Jacapo Saladin' timestamp='1327941912' post='2910658'] You've lost Your dignity for thinking signing an xR1 alliance is a good idea. Bravo on that one! Whether someone will test the treaty is irrelavent. [i]You just willingly signed xR1's alliance as an ally.[/i] [/quote] Yes, because we all know everyone else's opinion of one man defines an alliance. Is this the part where I mention we could really give a rip about what the peanut gallery, er OWF I mean, thinks about our FA?

Hooray for us. And please, for all of you posturing in the last thread, feel free to try us out. You can ask Sparta how well that went.

This is all very ridiculous. Good luck out there fellows.

While your FA baffles me most of the time, you're good people over there in STA. Congrats on 5 years and good luck in the future.

Given the paucity of good tech sellers on Bob, why would I want to stop dealing with good ones when I found them?

And yet, as has been previously pointed out, we HAVE invested significantly in them, as their aid screens can attest to. I'll also point out that if we are spinning OWF hyperbole into CB's, we have truly entered a new and stupefying age.