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Well hello there.

#4 is the most valid reason anyone could possibly think of. Good hunting

[quote name='the damned' timestamp='1340548318' post='2994434'] Couldn't wait one war to show your true colors. Oh well, welcome to the dance. [/quote] Why would we ever wait to show everyone how great orange is? Lets have some fun o/

[quote name='Yankees Empire' timestamp='1340508598' post='2994049'] Orange unity! (Should have used my DoW) [/quote] Shame on you for not accepting the superiority of orange juice.

Happy birthday

[quote name='Olaf Styke' timestamp='1329393598' post='2921706'] Yes, I do know, and the irony is that ODN's government is more rigid and impermeable than Sparta's.[/quote] I was voted into Gov 2 months after I started out on Bob, and so have many other new guys, so I'm not sure what you mean. [quote name='Olaf Styke' timestamp='1329393598' post='2921706']Remember all that horse!@#$ you guys were shoveling us mid-war about how the decision to attack XX didn't represent the will of the GA, and that ODN was really with us? Now you're telling me the elected leaders follow the will of the GA... There is a word for this... Hip... Hipo... I'll get back to you on that. [/quote] What we actually said was that we weren't too enthusiastic about fighting who we fought, but we'll do what needs to be done if an ally of CnG is attacked. And you talked directly to the GA and the Gov, so you're aware of this. Anyway, this is Roq's thread and we sidelined it enough with talk about ODN. I just wanted to point out that in an active democracy you can't put everything on the Gov and pretend like the GA doesn't exist.

[quote name='Olaf Styke' timestamp='1329310879' post='2921031'] Os wouldn't know the 'right thing' if it crawled down his throat. If ODN's conduct has proven anything it's that their leadership has about as good a grip on what is just or ethical as MK. Fitting, considering how long they've had their noses up MK's ass. [/quote] Lucky for us then that we do not follow a concept such as monarchy, but that our elected leaders simply follow the will of the General Assembly. Come on, as a former member you should know how we operate internally.

[quote name='Devilyn Caster' timestamp='1323633934' post='2874178'] We're not fighting MHA. At least as far as I know, would know for sure if our forums weren't down >_> Also I blame ODN. [/quote] 300 tech and they may magically reappear.

So when do we fight each other again?

[quote name='Azelie' timestamp='1323413669' post='2870579'] ODN, its an honor fighting by your side again. o/ ODN o/ eZe o/ Proximus o/ My personal mentor OsRavan! [/quote] Same here Azie <3 Lets have a good fight guys o/

Have fun guys.

Everything must melt.

[quote name='Kalasin' timestamp='1322205625' post='2850882'] Couldn't you just say what alliance you cancelled on? Honestly, most people won't keep track of INT's treaties. I'm assuming it's one of the SF ones. [/quote] Come on Kalasin, read the title and take guess

Congratulations Herr Kaiser

We'll have to make sure to live up to the treaty name

[center][img]http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/5155/odnlogo2.png[/img][/center] [size="3"][u][b]Election Results[/b][/u][/size] The elections are over and the General Assembly has once again chosen their representatives for the coming term. [b]Secretary General[/b]: eZe [b]Assistant Secretary General[/b]: Max Cristof [b]Secretary of Economics[/b]: DSwan [b]Secretary of Interior[/b]: Vitsen [b]Secretary of Defense[/b]: JWZepf [b]Secretary of State[/b]: Finnish Commie [b]Senate XLIII[/b]: OsRavan, Chaoshawk, Walling, Yankeesfan924, Italiarule There were no changes in the Secretariat as the group which had many rookies last term returns in the same lineup. In the Senate only two members are returning from term XLII, Chaoshawk and OsRavan. They are joined by Walling and Yankeesfan924, who have previous government experience, and by Italiarule, the lone government rookie this term. Congratulations to all those elected.

As always, keep on being prolific. o/ TPE

RIP Dingo and best wishes to his family

[center][img]http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/5155/odnlogo2.png[/img][/center] [b]Election Results[/b] After our longest election period ever and a total of 3 ties during the election our government for term XLII has been chosen. With it being expected to find the answer to Life, the Universe and Everything, it will have a hard time satisfying the demanding General Assembly. We have a large turnaround in both the Senate and Secretariat and are seeing quite a few new faces. [b]Secretary General[/b]: eZe [b]Assistant Secretary General[/b]: Max Cristof [b]Secretary of Economics[/b]: DSwan [b]Secretary of Interior[/b]: Vitsen [b]Secretary of Defense[/b]: JWZepf [b]Secretary of State[/b]: Finnish Commie [b]Senate XLII[/b]: Proximus, OsRavan, Xanaetos, Chaoshawk, Twizzler Former Senators Vitsen and Finnish Commie have taken over Secretary roles. Max Cristof has moved to Assistant Secretary General after several terms as Secretary of State. With DSwan taking over the Economics Department, JWZepf is the only member of the Secretariat returning in the same position as the previous term. In the Senate Proximus is the only Senator returning from Senate XLI. Twizzler has returned to government again and longtime Secretary General OsRavan is now serving in the Senate. Joining them will be 2 people new to government, Chaoshawk and Xanaetos.

[quote name='Omniscient1' timestamp='1308884549' post='2739941'] Congrats GATO are great peeps and I like Finish Commie [/quote] Sorry, we kidnapped Finnish Commie Congrats on the treaty!

Congrats DT

[quote name='Greywall' timestamp='1304473913' post='2705631'] Congrats ODN! When did Finnish Commie join ODN? [/quote] Around 2 months ago. Congrats to everybody elected

[quote name='Duckz3' timestamp='1304346406' post='2704131'] So you are telling me that the Government of ODN is making "Joke Posts" Publicly. In areas that are supposed to be for your members to learn about what is going on in the government so the GA can make better decisions? Thats just dandy, So if all your members are sitting there reading what the government says they will jump on the bandwagon and go with it.[/quote] Your forums must be boring. Yes, we make jokes on our forums. And fyi, my post was not from "areas that are supposed to be for your members to learn about what is going on in the government". Not that we wouldn't make jokes about CoJ there.

[quote name='Sigrun Vapneir' timestamp='1304312678' post='2703869'] Treaties aren't just pieces of paper that make you do what you want to do, they actually have meaning. An MD wont get you into a war when your ally attacks someone else. Only if that someone else attacks your ally. The sort of thing someone considering a career in alliance government might try to remember. [/quote] And now for the Xth time: How is whether we entered on an oA or MD treaty in any way relevant to the apology? If we entered on an oA we'd ask for the exact same apology because it doesn't change anything. The actions we are requesting an apology for took place during the war, they are not related to the start of the war.

[quote name='OsRavan' timestamp='1304307342' post='2703746'] As was said the type of treaty entered in to is actually irrelevant to the terms and just one of your many attempts to muddy the waters. Call it a MD call it an oA, it has nothing to do with the reason ODN is demanding the peace terms we are. [/quote] You should have known by now that when his argument isn't going well that Schatt will change the topic