Stealthkill

[quote name='Garion' timestamp='1358727253' post='3081327'] A solid lineup? Seriously? :| [/quote] Clearly they didn't see that you were in it. Or FC. Or Ego. Or Bambi. Or Snowy. Or kata. Goddamn kata.

Booo hisss this gov sucks

I predict Riddle/Winner will continue to spout out idiocy and nonsense and continue to be well past the realm of 'funny' and into the 'pure annoyance and self-embarassment' zone.

[quote name='lazaraus45' timestamp='1358619960' post='3080061'] Dear Umbrella, You have 48 hours to surrender unconditonally to AI and allies, if after 48 hours you have not done so, Tom Riddle will be permitted to directly mass PM you're membership with his insights into this war, You have been warned. [/quote] That's just mean. I laughed, but that's mean. ...we'll save it for their terms.

[quote name='FlogYou' timestamp='1358567712' post='3079503'] I wish I had a fancy graphic, or was good at graphics, but here it goes. [img]http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk225/badboybill2007/PaintSkillz_zps19ce5fbe.jpg[/img] Would some poor graphics shlock, take a screen shot of the first blown stagger on commander thrawn, and make a master piece, I obviously need help. [/quote] Any point that you're trying to make is completely invalidated by the fact that you use Internet Explorer.

[quote name='Tom Riddle' timestamp='1358561683' post='3079352'] We have no plans to get involved. All of our members have been told this. We also have the right, within our alliance, to speak our mind if we are neutral so that is what i did. We aren't even prepping for war right now and if we where attacked we aren't ready. [/quote] If you have any respect for Dark Templar, the alliance that is actually superceding the benevolence seen in most alliances in the game by tolerating your membership, you will shut your mouth. While we all enjoy stupidity to an extent, it gets annoying after a while. You've gone well beyond that point, and now you're just embarassing yourself and the alliance you're trying to speak for. Now stop talking.

[quote name='Garion' timestamp='1358557355' post='3079120'] Can't wait to see Deinos on the battlefield... Who will you pick? [/quote] Hopefully not us. The amount of complaints of boredom from our members may just cause a coup.

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQkaD6fG8mk"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQkaD6fG8mk[/url]

[quote name='Ernesto Che Guevara' timestamp='1358369060' post='3077666'] [13:36] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> like hell i am running [13:36] <@johnap88[BFF|DoD]> i rather deal with reform instead haha [/quote] johnnap's still around? For the love of Rebel Virginia... I am so sorry you guys :/

That topic... I... good job TTK. That one was good. Congrats and all to your new protectorate

[quote name='D34th' timestamp='1358243465' post='3076808'] One of the interesting things is that they chose to merge with The International instead of one of their beloved friends in DinoHouse. [/quote] Well, Goldie is the one who turned Chax in. And clearly they have too much self-respect to merge into Deinos.

If that is the case, my bad. Memory must still be foggy. Regardless of NEW's conduct, the principle of allies mediating and whatnot still holds. Simply enough, it's bad form to cancel on an ally before the situation resolving their involvement is resolved, unless a certan threshold of jackassery is reached, and unless they've been ruder than what's come across, it really doesn't seem like that's been the case.

[quote name='Ernesto Che Guevara' timestamp='1358064855' post='3075775'] You mean like last time they aided Kaskus at war and we prevented GOONS and allies from hitting them? Last time they broke our treaty? Normally I'd agree with you, but you fail to realize that the second that first aid packet was sent to Kaskus, NEW ceased to be an ally of BFF in every legal and technical meaning. [/quote] Essentially, yes. That's generally the expected protocol, and if you think it's worthy of a treaty cancellation (and let me be straight with this, I think that NEW very much deserved to be cancelled on, because they're idiots, the timing was just despicable) then afterwards you go about it. With BFF obviously there was complications during the last Kaskus fiasco, as if I recall correctly they were in the bloc at the time and BFF was a bloc not an alliance, but still, if INT doesn't like their allies doing things like that, they should've cancelled after the first time, not in the middle of the second. Frankly, it's a dick move and even if you feel they're kinda pissing on your relationship with their actions, then doing the same thing by tossing them out the window doesn't make you any better. As for the e-lawyering, frankly it's just e-lawyering. If they ceased being BFF's allies the second they aided Kaskus, then by that logic the treaty was cancelled when they aided them during the GOONS embarassment. I mean, yes, it's a legitimate reason to cancel after the fact, but they'd have to do worse to really justify a cancellation mid-situation. [quote name='Azreal' timestamp='1358110176' post='3075896'] Silly there is no INT, only Zull I mean CnG, or is it MK... I'm losing track of who dictates what INT does these days [/quote] INT is controlled by ODN who is controlled by MK who is controlled by Rebel Virginia. So everything's RV's fault.

obligatory o/ our friends. Except DLT. He sucks.

[quote name='Ernesto Che Guevara' timestamp='1357972278' post='3075313'] As a puppet of MK, I am privy to some information others are not. The great AllahArchon and his assistant the great Citadel of Infinity have no involvement in this. They have not willed it, thus you will not see the clouds of our Holy Kingdom. AllahArchon Ackbar I'm sorry, what do you want INT to do in this situation? What would have made you happy? Option 1, INT cancels on NEW for violating a treaty Option 2, INT cancels the treaty but does not waive the 48 hours. NEW gets attacked or attacks somebody. Aggressive attack from NEW is an optional aggression for INT. An attack [i]on [/i]NEW from NSO's allies is an optional defense; NEW declared an aggressive [b]act of war [/b]against NSO when they sent that aid. Therefore, via the non-chaining nature of the treaty, INT would not have been treaty-bound to defend NEW for a war [u]they [/u]and they alone (NEW) started. Option 3, INT keeps the treaty, acting as a pawn in NEW's game, in their self-declared suicide charge and is utterly destroyed, perhaps dragging their bloc into a larger war. Of course, INT's entry in that case would have been optional for the exact same reasons detailed above, and I can't imagine INT nor CnG jumping into a suicide run with NEW for Kaskus of all alliances. Get over yourself and get over the LSF issue. Find somebody else to obsess over. [/quote] Option 4: Don't sign with loose cannons if you don't like being allied to loose cannons. Of course your counterpoint to this is obvious, but regardless, if you're gonna tie yourself to NEW, you know what you're getting yourself into. If you prefer to not back have to deal with their more stupid moves, then just sign oDoAPs, then you won't get !@#$ on for leaving them out in the open. You and INT are not the first people to be screwed by an ally that went berserk, and this is not the first time NEW's done it. Regardless, as I said, obvious counterpoint, so let's move on to Option 5. Option 5: If going in militarily is too much, which can be understandable if they're just screwing you, then aid them diplomatically. BFF and C&G have enough ties to NPO and friends that it would be incredibly easy for you to use that influence to try to protect your allies a bit. In the above SOS discussion, Craig said he basically went to bat to protect SOS constantly. That is the correct and most prudent course of action, and if you really think they screwed you and you don't wanna deal with them anymore for it, you cancel after the incident, not during. I mean, what with non chaining clauses, INT isn't even under obligation to help NEW if they went in anyhow, and if they did at least try to help out, I mean, they'd still be trolled because welcome to the OWF, but they'd have much better ground to stand on than now when they just bailed on a treaty. And if when this war happened, you didn't immediately expect NEW would at least feel something towards defending Kaskus, then you're BSing pretty hardcore. Should they have a treaty? Yeah probably. But I don't think anybody would ever characterize either NEW or Kaskus as conventional in any sense of the word, and really, even without the paper, their relationship is fairly obvious to well... everybody.

[quote name='Ayatollah Bromeini' timestamp='1357964167' post='3075244'] I'd stick to speaking for yourselves, I don't think LSF needs anyone else speaking for it here. [/quote] Yes, because you have a wonderful history of caring for and being in tune with LSF.

[quote name='Crownguard' timestamp='1357958284' post='3075156'] I do not need an excuse to get plastered, so no worries. What we object to is not being told a damn thing by our allies about a situation of going to war. While some of us are all gung-ho about war, that's pretty shady to screw over the rest of our members for not being given a reason why they deserve to be destroyed too. So yeah...if NEW is going to war and had told us, maybe that would have changed some things. Just going off and starting with one without telling anyone a damn thing...that's bull#$%^. If it were about just fighting and laughing about it, hell that's easy. Unfortunately when you put into play that not everyone you end up responsible for wants a war, that's how it gets complicated. [/quote] [quote name='Crownguard' timestamp='1357958284' post='3075156'] I do not need an excuse to get plastered, so no worries. What we object to is not being told a damn thing by our allies about a situation of going to war. While some of us are all gung-ho about war, that's pretty shady to screw over the rest of our members for not being given a reason why they deserve to be destroyed too. So yeah...if NEW is going to war and had told us, maybe that would have changed some things. Just going off and starting with one without telling anyone a damn thing...that's bull#$%^. If it were about just fighting and laughing about it, hell that's easy. Unfortunately when you put into play that not everyone you end up responsible for wants a war, that's how it gets complicated. [/quote] [url="http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/NEW-DF_War"]INT fought in this.[/url] How did you not know you were signing with an alliance that likes to get into fights?

If you're going to sign with an alliance like NEW, you know what you're getting yourself into. They like to put themselves in these positions, and INT and BFF especially cannot claim ignorance because they fought in the NEW-DF stunt. If you do not want an ally who will do things like this, you should not have signed with them. But hey, welcome to the club NEW. Us and LSF are glad to have you.

Fairly lenient, but I respect that. Well played BFF.

[quote name='andyt2k' timestamp='1357828643' post='3073869'] 6) Lastly, may we congratulate Moufassa on being the most active person, from any alliance, anywhere, to anyone. [/quote] Bulldookies. Somebody needs to meet our rawring dinosaur. Regardless, congrats LoSS!

[quote name='SirWilliam' timestamp='1357765185' post='3073328'] This type of tomfoolery was played out long ago. [/quote] The whole 'one man v. an alliance' thing hasn't been fun since thedestro took on UPN. [quote name='sourcy' timestamp='1357762385' post='3073307'] Adding clause: "Holy Strommen Empire now owes 50 tech * duration of conflict for not taking this coup as serious as it is" [/quote] I'm sorry, but do you still actually think you should be taken seriously? I mean seriously dude, it was kinda funny at first, but now it's just getting sad and annoying.

[quote name='Unknown Smurf' timestamp='1357719182' post='3073165'] I still think we should make it one per team color again. It'd make for interesting politics. [/quote] This is assuming people care enough to take the effort to move colors just to get sanction. You'd occasionally see more SPAM things where an alliance hops colors just to try to piss off its opponents, but really you wouldn't see much more than that and perhaps one or two mid-sized alliances who haven't tasted sanction hopping to yellow to try to get their flag in game. I really don't see ODN changing colors and name just to keep sanction.

[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Alliance of the Year: NPO[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Most Powerful Alliance: [/font][/color]Ai [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Best Military: Fark[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Best Rookie Alliance: [/font][/color]Ai. [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Most Powerful Bloc: [/font][/color]DR [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Most Honorable Alliance: [/font][/color]NATO [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Best Recruiting Staff: R&R.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Best Propagandist: D34th[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Best Alliance Growth: TIO[/font][/color][color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif] [/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Alliance Most Likely to Succeed in 2013: [/font][/color]TIO [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Most Immoral Alliance: Non Grata[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Most Controversial Alliance: Non Grata[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Most Controversial Player: Dave[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Nicest Player: Bambi (Ambrose IV)[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Funniest Player: RV[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Player Most Likely to Achieve Greatness in 2013: Scorponok[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Biggest Controversy[/font][/color]: Ragnarok in general [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Funniest Event: GOONS/Kaskus[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Best Treaty Announcement:[/font][/color] Fark announcing Umb as their protectorate. [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Worst Diplomatic Move: INT not backing LSF.[/font][/color]

[quote name='White Chocolate' timestamp='1357157907' post='3070499'] Seems to me that the goal of this OP is just to harm Sparta's reputation. If he desired a no class system, then he could "vote by your feet" and resign from Sparta and join one of a number of democratically run alliances. If it's to change things internally and he actually has support, then use the internal political system. Even the most intrenched monarchies here will change a policy if enough "subjects" either leave or threaten to leave over it. They are far more likely, in any case, to do so that way than from military action. And if what he wants is to be King, he can start his own alliance. It could even have a similar theme. Since he is doing none of those options and instead using the OWF - which is all about public relations, all he is doing is trying to harm the reputation of his former alliance. [/quote] Or, just going out on a limb here, OP is just an idiot.

[quote name='Rotavele' timestamp='1357103683' post='3070369'] Top 5 Biggest Recruiters.... Sup RnR? [/quote] [url="http://www.cybernations.net/stats_alliance_stats_custom.asp?Alliance=RnR%20Applicant"]http://www.cybernati...e=RnR Applicant[/url] Also worth noting is that the number 120 alliance, TSI, is at 1.53 score. So our app AA has might just have joined the sanction race. Again.