Sarmatian Empire

Other GOD members posting in 5 4 3 2... Actually I've enjoyed xiph's posts the past few weeks, the gifs are pretty funny too

[quote name='Sniper Joe' timestamp='1335385677' post='2959132'] [16:51] <%SniperJoe> Things are not all peachey in PB. [16:53] <%Sardonic> please don't attempt to speculate on the internal workings of PB. It's embarassing. I'm sorry, you were saying? [/quote] I lol'd Best of luck to both PB and NG. So...Deinos taking the NG spot? FOK gonna leave next?

[quote name='Prodigal Moon' timestamp='1335025237' post='2956614'] I have to agree with lebubu. This world could be just as intriguing with 1000 nations if more alliances had some ambition, principles, or willingness to rock the boat. There is little incentive to bring new life into this world and, yea, little incentive to remain tied to this world except to justify previous commitment. [/quote] I think this sums up the biggest problem. Yeah tech raiding causes some issues I'm sure, if I just started playing a game and I got attacked right out the gate then I would highly think about just not playing. On the flip side you got a 50/50 shot of a new nation staying anyway. Also the nation itself is a problem. As some of you know, I've built strong communities in my time here. People will follow me where ever I go and this group is close and we have a lot of fun, but even with that new nations still tend to die out. Now you could say that I've never been on to focus hardcore on military or economics and that drives people out, but I'd say that if you arent willing to be apart of the community you sure as hell arent going to get involved in the governmental/political aspects of the alliance. But back to the post I quoted. I think this is the largest problem. Everyone seems fine with just sitting where they are, regardless of what side they are on. That issue flows into my next problem. (Now note I'm not singling any alliances out when I mention names, they are just examples.) GATO, if my memory serves GATO has been on the wrong end of most conflicts during its history. So what have we seen them do? Made friends and eventually joined CnG, a bloc that is heavily invested with the current powers in PB. In a survivalist standpoint it is a great move, from a game aspsect it is not. Another case, and problem a bigger on imo, is NPO. NPO was taken down in Karma by the powers that be today. The Pacific kingdom was torn down and not only that, but they were pre empted and rolled again during the NpO-VE affair. Now I would think that this would piss off most people and they would vow revenge. What do we see? NPO shacking up with CnG, joining the power structure. Another opportunity to start something gone. Now note I'm not speaking out against PB or anything, but they are in control and it is in the best interest of the "game" and politics to have a strong force opposing them at this point. It would hopefully drive both sides to recruit from outside the "game" and moves pieces around on the chess board. OOC: A example that I'm starting to relate to CN is the WCW. Now I didnt watch the WCW, I was a WWF guy, but I still own a DVD called the Monday Night Wars that talks about the business side of both businesses and how they fought each other. Now for those who remember and for those who dont know, the WCW had a faction in side it called the NWO, it was 3 guys. As the storyline grew they got more powerful and they started adding more people to the NWO, 4, 5, 6 people and it went on until people couldnt remember who was in and who wasnt. People were complaining about constantly being beaten up by the NWO and eventually they would get included into the NWO. So what happened? The NWO story line collapsed. So many people joined the one side that it fell apart and I equate that into what you see now. We say The League and Aegis try to take on TI, TI split into two and they fought it out. Karma rose up to doom NPO. There was always alliances on the other side of the power structure trying to start something that could take them down and that is gone. It seems you fall into three categories: A) Join the power structure. B) Lazy and constantly just go with the flow, whether that be constantly getting rolled or constantly winning. C) Trying to shake things up, but cant find any partners to do it with. Of course it is not as easy as it was in the past when there were fewer blocs and fewer spheres of influence. We see blocs not in power start to fight, IE Mj vs SF. So what does PB, or whoever else would of been in power at the time, have to do? Pick a side and watch them kill each other. Current power stays around and others hurt themselves. So it is not as simple as it use to be, but that doesnt mean it cannot be done, or at least tried. On an individual alliance level, no one wants to make a dramatic move. Causing drama can easily put you in a bad light in a heart beat, this fuels people to not make big crazy moves. This is good on an alliance level and bad on a "game" level. Say what you want about GOONS pushing reps on Kaskus/Mongols, but it caused drama didnt it? People were actively paying attention and voicing opinions and who knows how that war could shape the future via opinions on both goons and kaskus. We saw a few pre-empts during the last war, some people loved it, some hated it, but it caused drama and made things interesting. Legacy cancelled on CSN/GOD and in the same thread signed with DT/NoR, CSN/GOD's hated enemies, some people loved it, some people hated it, but it caused drama. Pre-empting NPO caused drama, the CSN DT rep stuff caused drama. Until people are willing to roll the dice to try to stir the pot, things will never improve. I have never typed such a big post in my life. I usually look at long posts and think, pfft someone needs a hobby! And with that said I'm gonna go sob for a few minute then go practice my golf swing.

Pre-Karma NPO is rolling over in their grave

Hope this works out well, best of luck

Still no ACID

This is a real shame, you guys had a lot of talent, I had high hopes It was great talking with Deebo, Canik, and Apollo, you are all great peeps and I wish you the best of luck moving forward

This is obviously just another step in the coup. Darthkitty

[quote name='Methrage' timestamp='1334602438' post='2954367'] Also Dr Beefstupid, whatever happened to that promise you would resign from GOONS if you guys had to call in help in this war against micros? Mongols have only got assistance from one other micro alliance, GOONS now have had to call in assistance from Umbrella, Non Grata, VE, FOK, as well as all the aid being sent to you guys from MK. Seems GOONS wasn't nearly as tough as you thought you guys were. Doesn't this prove GOONS can't do anything on their own and its time to move on? [/quote] But Methrage the outpouring of NEW reinforcements to the Kaskus AA was so overwhelming that they cannot possibly be considered a micro any longer

no no no no no someone make this conversation stop. SOM for the love of admin be the bigger man that you are and stop arguing with these people. Man I thought we were over this !@#$

[quote name='William Bonney' timestamp='1334480700' post='2953682'] I love it when Pacifica is regarded as an epitome of things that we have no involvement in whatsoever. I think its time you look around and change that broken record, chap. [/quote] Pacifica is what you compare things to. Former rulers to the current ones. These comparisons happen everyday [OOC] in real life [/OOC].

I also fall into the cat of I thought this happened already. I keep thinking GOD had the treaty and RIA didnt. Cant quite understand the anger at Bob's post. Most people are generally surprised when friends turn to enemies and then friends again.

Did you divide by zero?

[quote name='Umar ibn Abd al-Aziz' timestamp='1334539277' post='2953995'] The truth of the matter is that if we were handle it on our own without PB, it would take much longer. We want the war expedited and done with and our friends are willing to help us out - hey presto, problem solved. [/quote] You could...ya know admit you misjudged the situation and walk away without your precious reps, which surely isnt going to cover the damage you took, and you could of ended it at anytime, much quicker than the PB route or the solo route.

[quote name='Umar ibn Abd al-Aziz' timestamp='1334525345' post='2953880'] You are underestimating the strength of the alliance you are calling a micro. A micro can be extremely powerful if it is composed of the right bunch of people with the right bunch of nations. [/quote] I have underestimated nothing, I've known Razor for years and I knew what Kaskus was capable of. You are ones who underestimated them my friend

[quote name='Umar ibn Abd al-Aziz' timestamp='1334368957' post='2952691'] We didn't declare war on Kaskus and, as I mentioned in the post that you quoted but seem not have read and understood, we hadn't anticipated the substantial reinforcements they received from NEW. edit: The thing that is even more hilarious about that thread is his assumption that beefspari is a woman. [/quote] You might not of declared war on Kaskus, but you damn well knew they were coming in and to not prepare for that is just plain silly. You'll have to remind me how many NEW people joined Kaskus, at my last count it was betweeen 4-6, this isnt considered substantial when facing one alliance, let alone the fact that you brought in allies to deal with it.

Good move NPO

[quote name='DemonSpawn' timestamp='1334354249' post='2952475'] Who would have known Jache could write up such a beautiful treaty! lol o/ Shadow Empire o/ House Baratheon o/ Jache, God of SE [/quote] Jache didnt write that !@#$ and we both know it, he couldnt even center the flags either! Poor more SE, you should of demanded Jache be thrown out.

[quote name='Il Impero Romano' timestamp='1334327566' post='2952184'] Glad to hear you straightened everything out and are paying reps. That's a nice duck picture though. [/quote] ZING nailed me. My member was in the wrong so we paid a whopping 3 million. Why didnt mongols get the same deal?

[quote name='Umar ibn Abd al-Aziz' timestamp='1334326482' post='2952172'] Perhaps you haven't been following this war closely enough. Speaking honestly, we were ill-prepared for the war that Kaskus has waged this far - we weren't expecting for them to receive reinforcements from NEW and our nations had reasonable warchests but not they were generally not big enough to wage a nuclear war for a month and a half. Our smaller nations, mainly tech sellers and raiders, were not well equipped to respond to nuke & wonder equipped nations in the low tiers. Inactivity, like in most alliances, plays a factor too. [/quote] [img]http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb155/Stevepac9/goons.jpg[/img] How do you declare war and yet be not ready for war

I am surprised by the amount of surprised people in this thread. Congrats to INT and TPF

It's over, let it go

Best of luck SE, I'm sure Valhalla will do good for you, just dont talk to bud, dude is a baadddd kitty

[quote name='Colin40' timestamp='1333623212' post='2948581'] The nations I speak of are not in the same alliance as the receiving nation, so then it seems unlikely that it is a large nation building effort from within an alliance. The sending nations are not affiliated in any way with the receiving nations alliance, and they only seem to exist to send tech to a single nation? [/quote] Just because they arent in the same alliance doesnt mean they dont help each other out. They could be RL friends, or good friends on irc, or use to be in the same alliance together and the tech sender just doesnt wanna play anymore so he just aids his friend.

[quote name='Dochartaigh' timestamp='1333667820' post='2948790'] Nice treaty. Gonna have to point out this though: [b]Join[/b] Strike Force and The Commonwealth of Sovereign Nations do hereby ratify this treaty and Should treaties amongst the The Commonwealth of Sovereign Nations or [b]Join[/b] Strike Force ever come into conflict Congrats JSF and CSN. [/quote] They are poaching Best of luck JSF, I cant believe no one has used this name before?