Uralica

[quote name='Jens of the desert' timestamp='1285877162' post='2470090'] Sadly I wasn't so impressed by Era calling me a !@#$@#$ !@#$. [/quote] Heh, I remember in NoCB, when a CCCer did that to a member of TTK in-game. He is no longer with us. Was this IG or on IRC? [quote name='Jens of the desert' timestamp='1285877162' post='2470090'] Tell that to the kind anti tedwards who was still fighting fiercely for Equal Rights yesterday on 3 fronts. [/quote] He has since peaced out. Andover was obviously late to reading my post about keeping his members in line.

[quote name='Jens of the desert' timestamp='1285874042' post='2470038'] edit: I should add that I was a member of CCCP when the sanction occurred and was helping them in their war effort against the oppression of the ERA swine. [/quote] [quote name='Andover' timestamp='1285731443' post='2467606'] NV has stepped in since they will appearently be protecting CCCP, and [b]Peace was reached yesterday with white peace occuring at yesterdays update[/b], their size made reps very unrealistic and besides most of them fell out of range of ERA members. [/quote] The actual war had officially ended before you declared. Had you been in CCCP a little sooner, you might have had a case for arguing against your sanction. That said, your war is over, so your sanction ought to be lifted. The thing about roguery is, if you're carrying nukes, many people will sanction pre-emptively, anticipating the flying of nukes. Now as for when sanctions are acceptable, I've always been of the conviction that they should be used somewhat sparingly, with the best interests of the sanctioner's colour sphere in mind, but also with the mind of what is being committed. The following actions are worthy of sanction IMO: - Nuclear rogues (like Tulak sanctioning that guy who nuke rogued Sparta and TOOL for example) - Aid scammers - Recurring non-nuclear rogues (past a certain point - in a case like RUKUNU for example) - Hackers - Spies (good example of this is when iCarly2 dumped Dark Templar's war guides on the forum after supposedly joining them - Graham sanctioned her without a second thought.)

Time to headdesk again. USA, Why on earth did you put a membership count clause into your protectorate agreement?

[quote name='Omniscient1' timestamp='1285809563' post='2469038'] No clue. It was said earlier though that was the reason the treaty was dropped. [/quote] If ishabad's bio has anything to say about it, it's Silver Fire Alliance, who are themselves a protectorate of TPF.

I think moving is the only reasonable solution, unless he does something and you actually catch him in the act.

[quote name='Andover' timestamp='1285731443' post='2467606'] NV has stepped in since they will appearently be protecting CCCP, and Peace was reached yesterday with white peace occuring at yesterdays update, [b]their size made reps very unrealistic[/b] and besides most of them fell out of range of ERA members.[/quote] Ya think? I think half of Bob's been saying that since this thread started. [quote]Have fun Keeping your protectorate on a short leash, something tells me the 3rd time may not be the charm if CCCP decides to fire up a "revenge" war on ERA. [/quote] NV is one of the more honour-valuing alliances in this day and age, so they will make sure CCCP doesn't do anything stupid. But in the meantime, maybe you would want to take your own advice and do a better job of controlling [i]your[/i] membership. And if you jump the gun on CCCP in the case one of their members does attack, you had better be prepared to get smashed, because NV doesn't abide undiplomatic crap like that.

Bobogoobo is the man. No baloney. Actually, I have a great deal of respect for the entire Wiki moderation staff. Partly because I can't believe they put up with my Wiki section of nearly 500 pages.

[quote name='GulagArchipelago' timestamp='1285631958' post='2466423'] Maybe I'll leave TIO to do my stuff? [/quote] I was implying that they wouldn't be happy if you left. I know I wouldn't if I were in TIO.

I don't think TIO would like that much.

[quote name='GulagArchipelago' timestamp='1285631291' post='2466409'] Would you headdesk even more if I decided to join one of the AAs just for fun? [/quote] Indeed I would. Gulag

[quote name='Ruski' timestamp='1285626518' post='2466334'] First off all during the first war with ERA and CCCP war you coused it one of your members declared war on me for my tec and he even admits it then you go declare war on our former allys even though they haven't done anything so your guilty and during this 2nd war we supposedly sent threats to your alliance wich today I found out we didn't one of your members just sent ne a message that this was all planned out and he said we sent no threats and he and another member of the ERA declared war against us.then you stole one of our members. And the funny thing is that NV is offering us help. So your guilty on the 2nd war and I kicked out one of our members accedently. You just want our money your just selfish and you pick on smaller alliances just to make your self fell big... Lol O yea whoever supports CCCP go ahead and send us aid or do whatever you want and ERA one day we will have our revenge [/quote] Head, meet desk. Desk, head. I wouldn't think my respect for [i]both[/i] sides could dip any further. Were you in any way involved with [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=92089"]this[/url] like the OP says you were? If so, you're being hypocritical. If the parts about ERA making this up are indeed true, poor show by ERA.

Outside the current held TOOL treaties (and we recently had a contest on this on TOOL forums) I would like treaties with RIA, OBR and TOP most.

I find this whole war hilarious You have CCCP starting by repeating the mistake that got them rolled last time, then of course this thread and the demanding of reparations from an alliance that is now roughly a twelfth ERA's size. Of course, couple this with the fact that someone from another alliance was complaining about CCCP being bullies, and you can see why I'm facepalming at both combatants. (Yeah, I know, I've been handling the war wiki, but I'm only trying to write down the facts.)

Happy Birthday, DT Good choice having Myworld in FA, btw.

Chances are, overall, TOOLies would stick with IRON, TPF, and FEAR or Brig, depending on whom they know better. Since I know Brigade better than I do FEAR I'd keep IRON, TPF, and Brig. Would be a lot simpler if we were allowed a fourth treaty, since we only have 4 MDP+ partners at this point.

[quote name='Zhaan' timestamp='1285460265' post='2464699'] Nothing specific right now, but it refers to an alliance not based off any specific theme, such as ODN, NPO, TOP, FAN, etc. All varying government styles, but the names are original. [/quote] TOP is based off Paradox Games. NPO takes its name from a region in another game. I think FAN is a theme as well. Halo and The Matrix haven't been done yet to my knowledge, though. Plus there are a lot of untapped themes based on existing movies and VGs and what not still out there. Now I actually null-voted for this exact reason. If I were to create my own alliance for example (not likely since I don't feel I'm competent enough to do so, plus I'll be all but quitting come January anyway ) I would use a theme combining elements of Fear Factory's [i]Obsolete[/i] album and the lyrics of Front Line Assembly.

Man, too many people come to mind for me Meh, [i]pick one[/i]! - Mirreille, Ile de Noir, AOD Brigade: easily one of the classiest people I've met in Robertian/Digiterran political mingling. - Kryievla, Völsunga, Valhalla: Also incredibly classy unless given a reason not to be, and who can go wrong with someone who likes Shakespeare? - Mike Oldfield, Tubular Bells II, Nordreich: is just plain - Empress Maora, Amaryllis, AOD Brigade: Insisted that I be paid for something I was planning on doing for free, that is, hitting an aid scammer for them. I won't forget that. - band20, Bandstan, AOD Brigade: always good for a chat, even though he doesn't often post here. Also, is always willing to help out when needed. (I'd nominate Kellory too, but I don't know as much about him. AOD Brigade - favourite alliance we aren't yet allied to) - KingsIndian, KingsIndia, CSN: One of the more honorable people I've met, plus he's funny as hell. - KingRich, Blancos Dos, NpO: My mentor, honour personified. Aside from these, a few have already been mentioned.

WickedJ being boring. Oh wait, I wouldn't expect that in CN [i]or[/i] RL

Headdesk in 3... 2... 1... ...okay maybe not Schatt Also hai Sargun. How goes the mission on Ross Island?

/me headdesks What's with all the Bob hatin'? D:

For some reason, your works remind me of a quote from that great pre-Robertian antiestablishment philosopher, Wilhelm Leeb (OOC: Bill Leeb from Front Line Assembly ) "The laws of nature The laws of man This volatile paradox Will never stand" (OOC: from [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zswqfJb8Spk"]Plasticity[/url]) I will agree, however, that this spectrum does indeed exist, that all actions have consequence, and that the lack of restrictions coming from the absence of "Order" do result in an inherent default back to the State of Nature. Uralikan Yliopisto's Kirov campus (UY is Uralica's state university) had an interdisciplinary lecture series of five on this sort of thing - any student in PHIL 335 (Contemporary Moral Philosophy) or POLI 402 (Contemporary Themes in Political Thought) was required to attend at least two of these. Being how I'm a sessional lecturer in the Linguistics department, though, I didn't have time to attend any of the lectures. (OOC: yes, that was IC )

grahamkeatley being in a Christian rock band. KeyStroke being in a Black Metal band. Sargun being a censor/member of a BS&P. Linden16 being a fan of the Colorado Avalanche/Calgary Flames. Dragonknight1000 suffering from herpetophobia (fear of lizards).

Can't say I disagree with this. Toraoji (and I'm sure the rest of Quantum as well) is pretty awesome. o/ AZTEC o/ Quantum

This is indeed headdesk-worthy. [img]http://www.theorderoflight.com/public/style_emoticons/default/normal_headdesk.jpg[/img]

Yet another reason cows, or any alliance named COW, should avoid STA If they don't get mauled by pezstar, MagicalTrevor will make them disappear In seriousness, though, congrats on the promotion.