Adrian LaCroix

Assuming they were completely new nations, that's .15 score added on to NPO's, if I do my math correctly (I probably don't). I'd imagine there were at least a few of them that counted for more than .01. At most it likely nulls half a day's losses.

I can't see how that log dump is helping your case, quite frankly.

This should be interesting down the road.

Very nice.

If his forum access was removed before the surrender, he had no reason to stay. If after, then yeah.

I can't speak for anyone's reasoning but my own, but The Brigade gave up nothing with those terms. The only alliances we have treaties with that contain defense clauses on the Karma side that were fighting at the time are Sparta and VE. Sparta and VE were both fighting NPO, so yes, we agreed not to go in against them. Our allies stated that they didn't need our help, and I believed them. God knows NPO has enough alliances and NS on top of it without us in the mix.

So, who wants to do commentary?

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Now commencing update.

If the former members of said alliance want to, why not?

Mmmm, purple bias.

I was fairly certain there was some sort of war coming two weeks before it happened, and I most certainly have no spies. You had the entirety of Q with an intelligence clause in your treaty. No wonders are being forcibly decommed here.

The neutrals would rise up and kill us all for screwing over their economy.

I don't believe there are any upper ranks involved in this.

Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the shark overlord.

Our MoFA got nuked by someone at 12k. Lol. Also, I can't do update today.

I suppose it depends on what you hope to accomplish with this war. If you intend to build a new world out of it, you first must burn the old one to the ground. There is no doing things half-way. Of course, if you simply want to be fair, just, etc., the pattern that has held so far is perfectly fine for that purpose.

Um... /me scratches his head What?

You know what you doing.

So... You would rather they just had RAD attack them? I don't see why people are bent out of shape at the fact that PC was going to call in more of their allies in a war.

Oooookay... Right-o.

Your maturity is stunning.

We need mini flags for Fark and FOK, we seem to have lost them along the way.

On what do you base this, kind sir? Even these less generous terms are a far cry from much of what I've seen in my time on this world.

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