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[quote name='Kowalski' timestamp='1323375572' post='2869504'] I think we were worried that if we rolled you while you had no allies you'd cry foul and then pollute every future thread with nonsensical arguments based on fragments of half-truths in order to peddle some moralistic crusade. [/quote] This is pretty accurate. I believe when I asked why we couldn't roll CoJ at one point, almost this exact reasoning was given. As bad as Schatt's whining is normally, imagine how much more annoying it would be when he had something other people might actually consider something worth whining about?

[quote name='Ardus' timestamp='1323325279' post='2868724'] Au contraire, mon ami. I think this could be but the beginning of a beautiful relationship. [/quote] This seems relevant: [img]http://i.imgur.com/VI1vB.png[/img]

[quote name='Redezra' timestamp='1323320563' post='2868392'] Oh hey! Doomhouse is doing something [/quote] Took us long enough didn't it?

[quote name='commander thrawn' timestamp='1323273619' post='2867343'] inb4 all kinds kinds of subtle allusions to back room dealings. [/quote] Before?

[quote name='Lord Hershey' timestamp='1323229458' post='2866668'] At first, I thought it was MK. [/quote] It's "The Kingdom" rolling WAPA. I'm half surprised it wasn't us.

[quote name='Leet Guy' timestamp='1323233442' post='2866796'] Please disband them. [/quote] Disbandment is such a waste. Eternal Tech farm is far more profitable, and is also high up on the list of things Xiph likes, from what I hear.

[quote name='Cager' timestamp='1323229771' post='2866680'] This killed me. I can't stop laughing. [/quote] If you were dead you wouldn't be able to laugh :colbert:

[quote name='Banksy' timestamp='1323199148' post='2865908'] Subtle reference to Tyrion Lannister. [/quote] SPOILER ALERT

[quote name='theArrowheadian' timestamp='1323194066' post='2865820'] I think you missed my point. I do not care about what situation my alliance has clumsily stumbled into, nor do I care what you say about it. My point about the community is mostly that it used to be a place where even a few people could hold an intelligent discussion, but now it's all jargon and walking the party line. Saying "lol this alliance." It's tired and cliche, I figured this place would have grown out of this phase, but maybe you'll grow out it someday. [/quote] Serious question: Have you been on the OWF before today? Because seriously, it was no different back in 2006.

This thread makes the whole war worth it. A+ RV.

<TOP> Well nobody will counter us, so I guess we need to make some more DoWs

What would it take for both of the parties involved with this particular front to just blow each other up and vanish from Planet Bob?

How long til Polar comes out of peace mode and attacks FARK?

[quote name='alyster' timestamp='1322876732' post='2859755'] Dear Rebel Virginia, You're not funny nor interesting. Please go away with your FAIL and stop wasting my time. [/quote] This man does not speak for MK as a whole. Please don't stop RV.

<+ReytheGreat> How cute, they took the ballot box to their deathbed! <+ReytheGreat> someone post this in the ria elections <+ReytheGreat> my phone is !@#$@#$ up

[quote name='EgoFreaky' timestamp='1322773408' post='2858450'] http://www.cybernations.net/stats_alliance_stats_custom.asp?View=Charts&Alliance=Independent%20Republic%20Of%20Orange%20Nations I think at this rate it will be very costly wouldn't you say so? Question for you, you have a grudge with polar, you say you are winning.. Now why would you want more reinforcements to come in on the polar side? After all this is the best case scenario for IRON right? Independent thinking, really not that hard. Now for the people lined up behind IRON/TOP, but more important for the people that are screaming the hardest from beyond a wall of NS so big they know they're pretty much unreachable for the Polar side. If you want us, come and get us. Stop trying to making others do your dirty work for you, you don't need a cb you know that and have done that bbefore. A preempt isn't unprecedented, "we don't like you" is apparently as good a reason as any. So why the crying, act already. [/quote] What I just got out of this is that treaties don't matter anymore, and if anyone wants to fight anyone, they may as well declare randomly and not expect any treaty activations.

So you want to make an alliance for new players whose only role in the game would be to make those already on top gain more strength relative to them? There is no way this can't end in success....

[quote name='Gibsonator21' timestamp='1322724284' post='2857984'] MK is actively trying to kill SF, and you're wearing a sig about enemies wanting to kill you. It's kind of self-explanatory. [/quote] This would be a great place to say "wooooooosh"

[quote name='Gibsonator21' timestamp='1322723621' post='2857965'] The irony was too much to resist. [/quote] I fail to see the irony. You must just be really easy.

[quote name='Gibsonator21' timestamp='1322723507' post='2857962'] This could be interesting. I'm game. [/quote] I believe lesson 1 is to be more unique than to use other peoples' signatures.

My ego is too big to allow me to take part in this. So all I can really say is "lol wut"

[quote name='HeroofTime55' timestamp='1322711849' post='2857579'] It's not the game, it's on the heads of alliances for not making their new members feel relevant. The key part of this game lies in community. Not how big the numbers are in your small segment of the spreadsheet. Also helps if you don't regularly !@#$%* about how the game is dying in front of your new membership. [/quote] Here's the thing: There's plenty of communities out there. Yes, we have a relatively unique community here, but you can't forget that the community revolves around the game. If admin pulled the plug tomorrow, the vast majority would no longer be in touch with each other or care about each other. People get drawn in by the game, then stay for the community they find themselves a part of. However after the game has aged for so many years, new members can't get drawn in by the game. There is nothing to try, no game to play. They come in, join an alliance, get told what to do to get their nation up to par, and wait. This isn't something that entices new players to try to get involved with the community. They say "why bother" and go off and do something else because they never actually hit that hook that pulled them into the community in the first place.

[quote]Probably the same ratio that stay for any other batch of new nations. Are you proposing that we shouldn't bother attracting new nations at all? [/quote] Until game mechanics change so that new players can be relevant I fail to see the point. I'm not going to try to get my friends to join a game where I have to explain to them they have to play for 2-3 years before having good enough stats to contribute, and stuff actually happens once a year. Why would I want to subject a friend to something like that?

What good does recruiting new nations in the middle of war do? It might spark interest as they think there's actually stuff happening, but they don't contribute anything at all to the war effort, and the nations will quickly delete as they realize that they can't contribute, and it will be years before they can. Out of curiosity, you mention a 500-1000 nation spike from the last war. How many nations who joined during that timeframe are still with us?

[quote name='bros2' timestamp='1322707821' post='2857503'] bros supports this nomination although I wonder why you did not list any of the things I have done to better CN [/quote] Because nobody can think of any, except how much better things were when you were king.