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[quote name='WarriorConcept' date='16 February 2010 - 05:34 PM' timestamp='1266305644' post='2185195'] This is a blatant PR attempt to make GOD look bad, I don't think they'd deny it at all to be fair [/quote] We don't need to make GOD look bad. They are doing a perfectly fine job of that without any help from us.

[quote name='WarriorConcept' date='16 February 2010 - 04:29 PM' timestamp='1266301768' post='2185020'] What mess am I in? I do not believe my alliance nor my nation are at war at the moment. Glad to see you not arguing the point at all however and going off on a hypothetical though, always a good show of lack of argument. [/quote] I apologise for not knowing precisely which baby alliances are involved and which aren't. The mess this war has become makes it a bit hard to keep track (hell, there is even one alliance, which shall remain nameless, fighting on both sides at once) and besides, I really don't care much who is fighting who. Though watching the tech reps we've already paid being nuked away is giving me a great deal of satisfaction. Glad to see you didn't answer my question.

[quote name='WarriorConcept' date='16 February 2010 - 04:18 PM' timestamp='1266301089' post='2184984'] That's really their only justification? Not the fact that it's a terms that both parties agreed to and that it'll help GOD in this war? [/quote] We aren't involved in your mess, so shouldn't be helping either side. Would you be sprouting this if we were paying these reps to Polar and helping them in their fight against GOD?

[quote name='RandomInterrupt' date='16 February 2010 - 03:39 PM' timestamp='1266298745' post='2184834'] This is my new favorite moment of the whole war. GOD looking like even bigger jerks? NPO committing an (another) act of aggression on Polar? This is great! [/quote] So, when can we expect the retaliatory attack then?

[quote name='The Lonely Man' date='14 February 2010 - 11:04 PM' timestamp='1266152645' post='2180734'] Yes you will. You'll destroy anyone who it's in your interests to destroy, and then some. I'm sure you're privy to everything that's going on in the NPO. I mean, NPO is famous for its transparency! Unless you're an Imperial Officer, you'll never find out anything worth knowing. No you aren't. The only reason Moo was replaced was that Pacifica wanted to put on a new image, but much of that image is merely an illusion. Your modus operandi hasn't changed, your people haven't changed, and above all, your culture hasn't changed. [/quote] You know nothing of what I know or of the NPO. Perhaps you could come up with some funny conspiracy stories like ShinRa manages to do. Least his ramblings are amusing.

[quote name='ShinRa' date='13 February 2010 - 10:13 AM' timestamp='1266020013' post='2178365'] I'll just say this: as long as Pacifica exists they will remain a threat to everyone else on Bob. The only certain way to make sure that we do not return to the dark ages when the hegemony was in control would be to weaken them to a point where it was impossible for them to recover or to simply force the alliance to disband and destroy its convoluted ideologies and teachings. Anything less than this leaves them as a future threat to everyone not under their banner. Every future Great War would leave oppertunities for them to take control and begin conquering others again. [/quote] Oh ShinRa, what would we do for comedy relief without your constant anti NPO crackpot tin foil hat theories. Here, a little present for you from the karma war, just for old times sake... [IMG]http://i637.photobucket.com/albums/uu100/Arkacia/Karmparanoidtin.jpg[/IMG] Love the way one of the apparent 'crimes' of the NPO was somehow forcing alliances to disband (total rubbish) but here you are, a hero of Karma, proposing exactly the same fate for us. Can I yell stupid idea (you can't 'force' an alliance to disband, see FAN if you doubt that), hypocrite, or no U in response? All three perhaps? News flash. We aren't going to rebuild and 'come get you all'. It isn't going to happen. My personal feeling is none of you are worth giving up a stick of infra for. Sorry to disappoint you. We are under a new Emperor now, and the alliance has made internal changes I'm not going to discuss here, but rest assured the NPO of now is very different from the NPO pre Karma. You are free to believe that or not. I don't care either way. Keep up the conspiracy theories though please. In these dark days of being nothing more than Karma's unpaid tech farm, we'll take all the laughs we can get.

[quote name='Il Impero Romano' date='02 February 2010 - 02:14 PM' timestamp='1265084040' post='2152072'] Who said anything about making decisions? Clearly I did not. My point simply was its pathetic that them and many other have sat there for days and done nothing while IRON has been under attack, and it's even more pathetic that they now hit the alliance who has no treaties citing the D in their MDoAP. [/quote] [quote name='Il Impero Romano' date='02 February 2010 - 02:21 PM' timestamp='1265084494' post='2152091'] Uhh...point is they were obligated to defend against a lot of people, and lord knows IRON sure needs the help, but they didn't. Instead , they choose the one who they thought would serve the least chance of getting them attacked in return when the opportunity presented itself. [/quote] You know, the name 'Supercomplaints' suits your side perfectly. You all whine when people don't join the war, you all whine when they do. Complaining is all you lot seem to know how to do. Wasn't it only yesterday FAN were copping similar crap for declaring? Sheesh. All the best Valhalla. If FAN are any bit as good now as they were two years ago, you're in for a hell of an exciting ride o/

Feb 06 with my first nation from that other game after seeing a post from Great Britain on our region's forum. Helped him get Legion off the ground.

o/ MAX Legion are lucky to have you.

I have a soft spot for both alliances, so am pleased to see this. Congrats.

I can't believe I'm about to say this. I REALLY REALLY can't believe I'm about to say this, but I agree with Nintenderek 100%.

Athens are a walking talking train wreck. I see this move as a good thing for MASH.

I'm sure TPF have spoken to their allies and sorted out who is doing what, if anything, and when, if ever. Neokarma (you don't like being called karma, so hope this is better) don't get to make those decisions. If IRON and co come in it will be when they're good and ready and no amount of goading/ridicule will change that.

How was TPF a threat after the war? Again, do you have evidence any of this continued after they accepted terms? I'd be very interested to see it if it exists.

Good, so ZH will be joining TPF under the gun at update?

So, you do have actual evidence that TPF continued the program after ZH dropped it before the war was over, and continued to try to 'hurt' Athens while under surrender terms and beyond? Good, a link to it would be nice. Otherwise, ZH are just as involved, and just as guilty as TPF, whether they 'came clean' or not.

Are any karma apologists going to answer my question from page 2 or 3? I bolded it so you can read it easier.

I don't really care what you think either. You answered my post, so I answered it. You obviously fall into catagory 2 then.

I'm not mad. In fact my feelings are mostly humour at watching karma supporters all run around like headless chickens furiously trying to defend each other from legitimate criticism. You all know that CB is rubbish, but either hate TPF too much to care or have to keep up the lies to support your allies. The only negative emotion is seeing what this farce is doing to TPF. If TPF had really spied in cahoots with ZH, then why aren't you also hitting ZH? They are the ones who apparently actually did the deed? Just as guilty, so explain why they're getting off scott free.

It was rammed into our heads during a big war not long ago, think it was called the karma war or something similar, that NPO were really bad people for doing curbstomps and that was one of the many apparent 'crimes' we were being punished for. 6 months on and what do we see? BS CBs, another thing we were 'punished' for back then, and a good old curbstomp. Nice to see nothing has changed since that war which was supposed to create some brave new bob, but the alliance names committing such henious crimes.

The farce CB used for this curbstomp was born out of the karma war so it is in reality, to me at least, just a continuation of that war. Part 2 if you will. Especially as IRON is also being goaded to join in so the rest of you can jump them again. Using the name 'karma' for this war's aggressors, current and future, is perfectly justified.

Stay united and strong TPF. My guns can't be with you, but my thoughts are.

All the best with this Toga o/

I feel sure naughty Athens will learn to walk the true path under the guiding hand of uncle Archon after reading that OP.