supercoolyellow Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 [quote name='Voytek' timestamp='1295539383' post='2586444'] Why do people always try and post "objective" lists like this and immediately add a bucketload of spin? Just give it up already and go home. [/quote] I'm sorry, you seam to be responding to the wrong post. http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=97393 There you go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercoolyellow Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 [quote name='James Dahl' timestamp='1295544607' post='2586638'] It was all RIA, we orchestrated this all three years ago. Dance, puppets, dance! [/quote] Cactuars, mumbling, dusk, its all there, you just need to look for it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voytek Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 [quote name='supercoolyellow' timestamp='1295547163' post='2586728'] I'm sorry, you seam to be responding to the wrong post. http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=97393 There you go [/quote] The difference is that one actually makes an attempt at being factual, this one has already been admitted by omfg to have been an attempt at promoting his side's delusions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neneko Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 [quote name='supercoolyellow' timestamp='1295547163' post='2586728'] I'm sorry, you seam to be responding to the wrong post. http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=97393 There you go [/quote] Satire is a hard concept to grasp. You gave it your best shot at least and that's all anyone can ask of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Conrad Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 VE are terrible, terrible people. This is a basic fact and I'm being completely objective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omfghi2u2 Posted January 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 [quote name='Voytek' timestamp='1295547354' post='2586736'] The difference is that one actually makes an attempt at being factual, this one has already been admitted by omfg to have been an attempt at promoting his side's delusions [/quote] You responded to the other thread that it was more factual when within the next 3 pages the claims were refuted. The thickness of Voytek's skull is quite unbelievable. -omfg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voytek Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 [quote name='omfghi2u2' timestamp='1295629116' post='2589242'] You responded to the other thread that it was more factual when within the next 3 pages the claims were refuted. The thickness of Voytek's skull is quite unbelievable. -omfg [/quote] Weird usage of the third person aside, that thread was a parody of your thread - my post was playing along. Do try to keep up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Horror Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 [quote name='omfghi2u2' timestamp='1295629116' post='2589242'] You responded to the other thread that it was more factual when within the next 3 pages the claims were refuted. The thickness of Voytek's skull is quite unbelievable. -omfg [/quote]Which three claims? I don't think any but one were seriously disputed. [quote name='Voytek' timestamp='1295630269' post='2589272'] Weird usage of the third person aside, that thread was a parody of your thread - my post was playing along. Do try to keep up. [/quote]I believe he is debating in the style of the commons, Mr. Speaker! [ooc: this post obviously refers to the mk house of commons ok] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashoka the Great Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 And thus this thread heads in the inevitable direction of the other one, which included an exchange that went something like this: Me: RoK told Nordreich about their impending attack on PC more than 24 in advance. Rocky Horror: That would be game-changing if you could prove it, but I think you're fibbing. Me: Oh fine. Here's a highly-edited screencap from our government area, which shows the time it was first mentioned on our forum; about 40 hours before RoK's DoW. Rocky Horror: That doesn't change anything. Me: Errr....what? Keep on keeping on, kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banksy Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 Are you trying to parody the parody thread? Or did the fact the other one was a parody go over your head too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Greenberg Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Voytek' timestamp='1295547354' post='2586736'] The difference is that one actually makes an attempt at being factual, this one has already been admitted by [i]"whoever"[/i] to have been an attempt at promoting his side's delusions [/quote] The same could be said about your side. Edited January 21, 2011 by Ryan Greenberg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Horror Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 [quote name='Ashoka the Great' timestamp='1295646571' post='2589574'] And thus this thread heads in the inevitable direction of the other one, which included an exchange that went something like this: Me: RoK told Nordreich about their impending attack on PC more than 24 in advance. Rocky Horror: That would be game-changing if you could prove it, but I think you're fibbing. Me: Oh fine. Here's a highly-edited screencap from our government area, which shows the time it was first mentioned on our forum; about 40 hours before RoK's DoW. Rocky Horror: That doesn't change anything. Me: Errr....what? Keep on keeping on, kids. [/quote]Turned out it wasn't game-changing, what can you do? Hoo himself came and vindicated what I said later on. But call me a child if you want I guess, that's pretty clever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Wally Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 [quote name='omfghi2u2' timestamp='1295539290' post='2586441'] It seems that alot of people are not understanding some basic facts of this war, so let us get a thread going. I will update it with submissions / posts as well. [list] [*]Lennox started this war pretty much for the lulz (Or in response to a thread. [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=97316"]Click[/url]) [*]VE did NOT try diplomacy but instead posted a DoW [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=97369&view=findpost&p=2586348"]Click[/url] [*]Dajobo DID say to go ahead [*]RoK DID warn their treaty partners 24 hours in advance that they were going to defend Polar. [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=97369&view=findpost&p=2585861"]Click[/url] [*]RnR and GOD did not warn RoK about their decisions. [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=97369&view=findpost&p=2586358"]Click[/url] [*]I think it is safe to establish that VE started an aggressive war against Polaris, hence the VE DoW [*]RoK has an MAoDP with Polaris, and Polaris having been attacked, RoK activated the DEFENSE clause of their treaty. Not just because they hate VE or anything, but simply because they were honoring a treaty [*]More basics facts to come [/list] -omfg [/quote] I can confirm the Ragnarok / SuperFriends related facts here are all 100% correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acca Dacca Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 [quote name='Rocky Horror' timestamp='1295650558' post='2589661'] Turned out it wasn't game-changing, what can you do? Hoo himself came and vindicated what I said later on. But call me a child if you want I guess, that's pretty clever. [/quote] What ever lets you sleep at night, because nowhere in his response did he say he guilted rok into changing their stance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMuz Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 (edited) [quote name='omfghi2u2' timestamp='1295540167' post='2586474'] Action =/= war. Isnt saying bad things about another alliance an aggressive action as well? [b]Yes, Dajobo condoned the spying, but if VE pursued diplomacy by either expelling Dajobo and ZI'ing him or some other, then this war could have been avoided entirely.[/b] Or even better, if they went to a third party to work things out, then this could have been avoided. [/quote] Find me evidence that VE didn't try to get Dajobo expelled or ZI'ed and I'll agree with you in that they didn't do enough diplomacy. I have no idea how going to a third party would get anything worked out. Also, I'd have quite a bit of respect for VE if they managed to do something as tricky as frame Dajobo and Lennox and getting away with it cleanly with only conspiracy theories being the evidence. Here are some more basic understandings of this war: [list] [*]RIA are bored, want war, and will offensively attack people on both sides. [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=97433"]Click[/url] [*]RIA have a history of building spy rings. [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=96619&st=0"]Click[/url] [*]MK's diplomatic policy is to kill everything. [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=97396&st=0"]Click[/url] [*]MK have attempted to change the politics of the world to their advantage, via false heirs and coups. [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=97161"]Click[/url] [*]More basic facts to come. [/list] Anyone can conclude that MK and RIA planted spies in both VE and NpO to make them fight each other. Edited January 21, 2011 by MrMuz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Horror Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 [quote name='Acca Dacca' timestamp='1295651583' post='2589684'] What ever lets you sleep at night, because nowhere in his response did he say he guilted rok into changing their stance. [/quote]He doesn't have to say it, his story corroborates it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voytek Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 [quote name='Ryan Greenberg' timestamp='1295649312' post='2589634'] The same could be said about your side. [/quote] It could be said. It would be wrong, but it could definitely be said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 [quote name='Voytek' timestamp='1295665255' post='2590505'] It could be said. It would be wrong, but it could definitely be said. [/quote] While I don't agree with the conclusion, this is the first legitimately funny thing you've said in a long time, Voytek. Please put more work into the rest of your posts to make them as good as this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Greenberg Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 [quote name='Voytek' timestamp='1295665255' post='2590505'] It could be said. It would be wrong, but it could definitely be said. [/quote] Hahahahaha!!! Nice one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dochartaigh Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 [quote name='Voytek' timestamp='1295539383' post='2586444'] Why do people always try and post "objective" lists like this and immediately add a bucketload of spin? Just give it up already and go home. [/quote] This post should be in the one started by Rocky Horror. if that is not a load of BS spin, then nothing else could possibly be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voytek Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 [quote name='Dochartaigh' timestamp='1295668683' post='2590673'] This post should be in the one started by Rocky Horror. if that is not a load of BS spin, then nothing else could possibly be. [/quote] That thread is a really really really really obvious parody of this one. It's great to see how many people can't understand such a simple thing like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dochartaigh Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 [quote name='Voytek' timestamp='1295668942' post='2590686'] That thread is a really really really really obvious parody of this one. It's great to see how many people can't understand such a simple thing like that. [/quote] well i did not pay attention to who created which thread first for one, and Rocky seemed to be fairly serious about his assertions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neolord Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 [quote name='Dochartaigh' timestamp='1295670874' post='2590818'] well i did not pay attention to who created which thread first for one, and Rocky seemed to be fairly serious about his assertions. [/quote] i like this so cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dochartaigh Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 [quote name='neolord' timestamp='1295671134' post='2590834'] i like this so cool [/quote] can't tell if this is sarcasm or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Horror Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Dochartaigh' timestamp='1295668683' post='2590673'] This post should be in the one started by Rocky Horror. if that is not a load of BS spin, then nothing else could possibly be. [/quote]A parody doesn't necessarily have to have people saying "DURRRR" and talking obvious !@#$%^&* (ooc: this is because I am not American irl~). The fact my thread is [i]as unreliable and biased[/i] as this thread proves that the list in the OP can be one-sided and partisan without having any demonstrably false claims. This was my intention. Edited January 22, 2011 by Rocky Horror Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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