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Requesting a GM wipe of [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=94256"]this[/url] RP and [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=94195&pid=2502366&st=0&#entry2502366"]this[/url] on the basis that Welsh peoples are my citizens and there is a huge distinction between people of Welsh descent (but citizens of other nations) and Welsh people (people of Wales, which is owned by me). RPing Welsh Royalty or Welsh people is RPing my citizens and thereby against the rules.

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[quote name='Centurius' timestamp='1288911148' post='2502256']
The deal is called humor.
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Apparently it is canon, so no, I see no humour. I have no idea how that can possibly be called canon. Gods in canon CNRP is just the tip of the iceberg with this, and already that should be crossing the line.

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[quote name='dotCom' timestamp='1288926804' post='2502586']
Apparently it is canon, so no, I see no humour. I have no idea how that can possibly be called canon. Gods in canon CNRP is just the tip of the iceberg with this, and already that should be crossing the line.
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To everyone else out there, everything's been worked out in IRC... this thread was obviously never in any danger of being made canon.

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[quote name='Shatner' timestamp='1288904351' post='2502130']
I'd just like to clarify the exact nature of the United States right now, my questions being:

1) I assume the stats are based solely off of KC now, correct?

2) Without an auto-advance, which I am in no way asking for, how long do I have to wait to make a second move in my invasion of Alaska?

3) With KC indefinitely gone, but without a lock, what course would be most appropriate way to conduct this invasion?

4) That said, I'm not entirely sure whether the US even exists as an RP entity anymore, can anyone clarify?

Thanks in advance.

EDIT- Also, this situation directly correlates to an obscure ruling that kind of didn't get made. Since Acca left the US, should KC be retaining control of Alaska and the Yukon at all? I'm referencing a question I can't find to link, but I believe the question was what happens to a merged nation after one of the tenets leaves.
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1. Correct.

2. Talk to the guy and ask him if he even wants to hold onto it, I reccomend.

3. Inform him, and wait until he comes back or is wiped from inactivity (25 days)

4. I'm pretty sure it does, just not as nearly the powerhouse it was.

[quote name='Yawoo' timestamp='1288917721' post='2502404']
Requesting a GM wipe of [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=94256"]this[/url] RP and [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=94195&pid=2502366&st=0&#entry2502366"]this[/url] on the basis that Welsh peoples are my citizens and there is a huge distinction between people of Welsh descent (but citizens of other nations) and Welsh people (people of Wales, which is owned by me). RPing Welsh Royalty or Welsh people is RPing my citizens and thereby against the rules.
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Um...OK, nevermind, situation already dealt with itself.

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[quote name='Yawoo' timestamp='1288917721' post='2502404']
Requesting a GM wipe of [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=94256"]this[/url] RP and [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=94195&pid=2502366&st=0&#entry2502366"]this[/url] on the basis that Welsh peoples are my citizens and there is a huge distinction between people of Welsh descent (but citizens of other nations) and Welsh people (people of Wales, which is owned by me).[b] RPing Welsh Royalty or Welsh people[/b] is RPing my citizens and thereby against the rules.
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This part is where you are in the wrong (partially). Yes, he cannot RP your citizens, but I can easily say that I'm RPing a former Welsh Citizen, and I can easily declare my character the King of Wales. It'd still be canon, but it wouldn't necessarily be true.

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[quote name='Markus Wilding' timestamp='1288967165' post='2502925']
As per JED's post [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=42831&view=findpost&p=2499391"]here[/url], it appears that it would revert to a J Andrean protectorate, but I'm not 100% sure on that.
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Jed would only have gotten the parts controlled by Mykep under his doctrine.

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[url="http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/5379/biospy.jpg"]Bio Spy Roll Image[/url]

^Requesting one spy roll on Biohazard for my spies to gain access to his country.

[url="http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/8741/xoinspy.jpg"]Xoin Spy Roll Image[/url]

^Requesting one spy roll on Xoin for my spies to gain access to his country as well.

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[quote name='Subtleknifewielder' timestamp='1288995503' post='2503186']
Jed would only have gotten the parts controlled by Mykep under his doctrine.
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Do you happen to know which parts were owned by Mykep?

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[quote name='Sarah Tintagyl' timestamp='1289000584' post='2503263']
[url="http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/5379/biospy.jpg"]Bio Spy Roll Image[/url]

^Requesting one spy roll on Biohazard for my spies to gain access to his country.

[url="http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/8741/xoinspy.jpg"]Xoin Spy Roll Image[/url]

^Requesting one spy roll on Xoin for my spies to gain access to his country as well.
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Define access, and i'll do eet... remember the new spy rules.

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Was told to come here.

[quote name='maicke' timestamp='1289002442' post='2503289']
Do you happen to know which parts were owned by Mykep?
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Pennsylvania and New Jersey. KC is president, he owns the rest.

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Requesting two spyrolls against Khalistan. One to find his Presidents last know position by finding the origin of the messages here:

http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=94375

One to abduct him with special forces which are enroute depending on his location

RP here:

http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=94380

[URL=http://img180.imageshack.us/i/khalistanodds.png/][IMG]http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/223/khalistanodds.png[/IMG][/URL]

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Requesting two spyrolls against Khalistan. One to find his Presidents last know position by finding the origin of the messages here:

[url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=94375"]http://forums.cybern...showtopic=94375[/url]

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0-10 Fail, 11-100 Success

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Success

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One to abduct him with special forces which are enroute depending on his location

RP here:

[url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=94380"]http://forums.cybern...showtopic=94380[/url]


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0-10 Fail, 11-100 Success

[img]http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww106/mofailla/th_tim2.jpg?t=1289093046[/img]

That roll being given, I am almost 100% sure after our spy roll reforms you will NOT be able to do this under a single roll.... if at all. Basically, each roll can allow you to succeed for fail at a specific spying role... like getting a locked door open or getting past a checkpoint... something as substancial as taking a world leader would need extensive RP before hand.

I will need to clarify with the other GMs further... so far you've found where the leader is, and have passed a rudimentary spying task...


EDIT: NOT!

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[quote name='Executive Minister' timestamp='1288870811' post='2501790']
Indeed, which is why this case was so quickly acted on. ishabad essentially came on IRC and said 'hey guys, anyone want my land?' The transfer between ishabad and Fizzy had absolutely no RP behind it. As for obscure multi-lateral treaties... well lets just say that any transfer that is found questionable by one of the GMs or is brought to our attention by another RPer WILL be looked into on a case-by-case basis... Like, I'm almost glad that ishabad did this stupid transfer the way he did... I mean, it was so blatant, how could anyone accuse us of GM-

-bias... oh brother...
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I am very happy with the assurance. I hope that PM RPs are also included in this blatant examples.

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[quote name='Karl Martin' timestamp='1289356676' post='2508872']
I am very happy with the assurance. I hope that PM RPs are also included in this blatant examples.
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I pretty much consider PM RP's like IRC RP's. They are IC...if they do get posted in the public portion of the forums. That's not a GM ruling, that's just my opinion.

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Considering the Isle of Mann's location in regards to the current war taking place there, as well as the explicit mention of the war being the primary reason for claiming it, I find [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=92433&view=findpost&p=2501627"]this[/url] and [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=92433&view=findpost&p=2502384"]this[/url] to be a problem.

You are entering a warzone, a warzone that you acknowledge. If you are moving the kinds of troops and materials into this region in a matter like this, it really should have been posted in the War thread... or at the very least, posted in a manner that would have allowed the combatants to respond in kind to such a deployment. No competent military force would ever allow aircraft or vessels of unknown origin merely stating that they are delivering aid into a theatre of operations.

EDIT: Just because your movements went unnoticed to the participants does not mean that they took place without being hindered. Your aid craft could have very well been taken for military craft assuming a guise.

If you can explain to me how such a force would move in unanswered, I won't wipe this.

Discuss.

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By the way, Zoot, I want to know why you waited six days to go to a GM about this move. I also want to know why you waited three days [b]after there were IC actions taken by you included[/b] concluding the issue to come to a GM.

If you can give me a plausible, believable explanation as to why you waited so long then I might be convinced you aren't abusing the GMs to further yourself.

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