Keve69 Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 I believe you contradicted yourself? maybe you meant will not pursue zi? Yeah Yeah I noticed and edited it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopherbashi Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 I believe you contradicted yourself? maybe you meant will not pursue zi? Yes, it appears so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barix9 Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 (edited) TeamColtra made a mistake and it can happen to anyone, as such UINE will NOT pursue a ZI and he will be allowed to head to the alliance of his wish. The destruction of his pixels neither excites me nor does it serve any practical purpose. The damage to TeamColtra`s reputation has been more than enough. Thank you all for your concern EDIT* Forgot the NOT Honorable as always Keve. Yes, it appears so. Quite right Edited November 23, 2009 by Barix9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jtkode Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 (edited) Honorable as always Keve.Quite right How unfortunate, I wanted his pixels to be distributed for the greater good **whispers off in the distance** *the greater good* Edit- I know kill me for these edits today! o/ Keve, you really are a kind loving guy, not many people would withhold war from TC. It is very honorable and though TC will keep his Pixies *cough* I mean Pixels, it will be very hard to keep any reputation after this post. o/ Keve, o/ The Emperor of UINE. Edited November 23, 2009 by Jtkode Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordliam Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Sometimes, it's just not a good idea. Seems like the post-Karma War world has finally come to it's senses and has begun a grand campaign of powermongering and lulzmaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Perry Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Dear Coltra,My coup at least had SOME basis of reasoning. This one's just gay. I Still Don't Like You, The Former Otto V Bismarck Former Internal Affairs Minister Ex- North Atlantic Defense Coalition I you. Also, I've never had any interaction with UINE or Keve. Neither has my alliance, I believe. But, as far as I can tell, keve seems to have some good friends who are gonna support him no matter what. TC, I've had talks with you and you will not get far with your attitude. Good luck in resolving this, UINE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bones Malone Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 You're being kind as always Keve. o/ UINE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leftbehind Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Great coup! Honestly your reasons are a complete joke. Sure Keve don't want to sell to tC and the reasons he gave me are justified and I completely understand it. Its his right as a leader to refuse to sell tech to anyone he wants. Also the fact that you are so butthurt about him offer/placing people in government without holding elections is a bit too much. He is the ruler of a small alliance that could use people in office NOW not later so its pretty normal for a person to be appointed into a position right away instead of waiting the month or more for the next set of elections to roll around. I ran a few small alliances in my day and I understand why he would do it. Sometimes you got to break the rules to advance. I don't like the fact that you are sticking someone in a leadership position who wanted to bail on the alliance before. Wtf do you think she will do when things get are or she gets bored? Be smart about it. There are so many better ways for someone to go about this then a coup. Next time I suggest you try another root. Now with that said. The alliance known as The Dark BrotherHooD supports Keve as the rightful leader of UINE. Keve if you need anything please feel free to come to us for help. We may not be allied but the TDB likes your style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remaliat Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 You got class Left Behind, good to know you are looking out for our allies as well, I would suggest you read up a few posts to see the resolution to this though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keve69 Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Great coup! Honestly your reasons are a complete joke. Sure Keve don't want to sell to tC and the reasons he gave me are justified and I completely understand it. Its his right as a leader to refuse to sell tech to anyone he wants. Also the fact that you are so butthurt about him offer/placing people in government without holding elections is a bit too much. He is the ruler of a small alliance that could use people in office NOW not later so its pretty normal for a person to be appointed into a position right away instead of waiting the month or more for the next set of elections to roll around. I ran a few small alliances in my day and I understand why he would do it. Sometimes you got to break the rules to advance. I don't like the fact that you are sticking someone in a leadership position who wanted to bail on the alliance before. Wtf do you think she will do when things get are or she gets bored? Be smart about it. There are so many better ways for someone to go about this then a coup. Next time I suggest you try another root. Now with that said. The alliance known as The Dark BrotherHooD supports Keve as the rightful leader of UINE. Keve if you need anything please feel free to come to us for help. We may not be allied but the TDB likes your style. Extremely classy! o/ TDB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satsukage Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 /o Keve You are a great guy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow King Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 o/ Keve69 FAR has support behind you and UINE. I have known Keve since the formation of UINE and he has done nothing but try to make UINE better in every way. UINE is a great alliance and a great ally and FAR stands behind her 200%! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Stranger Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Good to see, UINE. T'would be horrible to see TSU's major organizer collapse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankdolf Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 I see TeamColtra still knows how to have some fun ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
empirica Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 I was going to go into a bit of a dialog as how none of this sounded like the Keve I met a while back. But it appears everything is returning to some degree of normalcy. So, congratulations on restoring order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin McDonald Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 One of my reasons for wanting to distance myself from UINE has been because of TeamColtra's membership. Time and again he has proven himself a lightning rod for drama and tends to well overstay his welcome in alliances. I don't know any of the issues that caused this, and don't care to know. I do hope, however, that some lessons are learned from this and that you can move on for a better future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeXveronica Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Enough is enough. We are people not animals. Today I write to set a few things straight. I have been in UINE sense only a few days after its begining. Me and keve was best friends in the CN world believe it not... to the extent that he made me Prime Minister of UINE and put much trust in me to wich I am thankful for. But just in every alliance things change... me and Keve didnt always agree on things auctually not by the long run did we agree on everything that is why tensions began to grow... to be honest it was Keves liberal and innovative mind verses my Conservative and traditional ways... that is why things happened how they did. I dont expect anyone to see this from my point of view becuase of course you are not me... but the only thing I did wrong in UINE was voice my opinion and yeah I made a couple of FA flops... a few people even wanted to leave the alliance because I wasnt "A Friend" but to much of a "leader". At least that is what keve told me. I later went on that rouge stage which everyone should be aware of... but it was with good reason I left being promised that we would still be friends and that everything would be ok but as soon as I left it wasnt eventually I had people attacking me for every dime... people would query me and flame things up on IRC... then false lies started going around.... at that time all I wanted to see was the Fall of Keve... not UINE. Well about 4 months go by and one day while im at my computer I decided to shoot by mIRC. As soon as I do I get a Query from Keve.... yeah. 01[15:46] <codeXveronica> Yeah Yeah yeah 01[15:46] <codeXveronica> Lets try not to talk about that [15:46] <Keve69[uINE]> and Im happy to hear that cuz we have loads of work to get done still [15:46] <Keve69[uINE]> and I remember the value you can have on a team [15:46] <Keve69[uINE]> for now look around the forums and make yourself at home again 01[15:47] <codeXveronica> I will thanks [15:51] <Keve69[uINE]> <Keve69[uINE]> I recruited a nation into the alliance [15:51] <Keve69[uINE]> <Keve69[uINE]> she used to be in IRON [15:51] <Keve69[uINE]> <Keve69[uINE]> but re-rolled after the war [15:52] <Keve69[uINE]> <Keve69[uINE]> and here is the interesting part [15:52] <Keve69[uINE]> <Keve69[uINE]> she used to be a recruiter [15:52] <Keve69[uINE]> so yeah... [15:52] <Keve69[uINE]> Ill send Nathan to talk to you 01[15:53] <codeXveronica> Ok cool 01[15:54] <codeXveronica> Lol it feels odd working under noobs lol but I will be a good gurl [15:54] <Keve69[uINE]> meh Nathan is getting alot better lately [15:56] <Keve69[uINE]> is he talking to you? 01[15:58] <codeXveronica> Yeah [15:58] <Keve69[uINE]> cool [15:58] <Keve69[uINE]> has he said anything horrible 01[15:58] <codeXveronica> lol... He did something I wouldnt do [15:59] <Keve69[uINE]> ? 01[15:59] <codeXveronica> He offered me Deputy Minister of Recruitment only after saying two words to me 01[15:59] <codeXveronica> lol 01[15:59] <codeXveronica> I declined [16:02] <Keve69[uINE]> good [16:02] <Keve69[uINE]> jeez I asked him not to do that [16:02] <Keve69[uINE]> [16:02] <Keve69[uINE]> anyways... [16:02] <Keve69[uINE]> If you want a recruitment gold min [16:03] <Keve69[uINE]> an alliance recently disbanded [16:03] <Keve69[uINE]> Crimson Guard [16:03] <Keve69[uINE]> I messaged them [16:03] <Keve69[uINE]> but lets see if you can pick a few up 01[16:03] <codeXveronica> lol... I would rather not do anything thats going to later get me in trouble for poaching 01[16:03] <codeXveronica> lol 01[16:04] <codeXveronica> Im gettting sick of the poaching card Yeah so ya see I got on IRC and keve decided to ask me if he wanted me to come back... I dont have all the logs there but I can get more with a request. Ok so I was first like Ok sure... I just wont be serious about the game anymore... but as time passed I wanted things to be how they were before... sooner or later keve asked me to run for Triumvir... so I did Keve assured me I would win and of course I did... what later bothered me is how keve swayed the election of MoD AND Trium [22:19] <Keve69[uINE]> congratz your in the lead for the elections [22:19] <Keve69[uINE]> ok [22:19] <Keve69[uINE]> heres the problem 01[22:19] <codeXveronica[uINE]> Yes I know 01[22:19] <codeXveronica[uINE]> WHats the prob? [22:19] <Keve69[uINE]> as it stands [22:19] <Keve69[uINE]> Hippie is gonna get DMoD [22:19] <Keve69[uINE]> thats not gonna fly [22:20] <Keve69[uINE]> I wanna change the rules to: when there are 3 or more candidates the minister chooses his deputy 01[22:20] <codeXveronica[uINE]> I see Session Close: Thu Oct 01 22:21:07 2009 01[22:22] <codeXveronica[uINE]> Its a little crooked keve... [16:45] <Keve69[uINE]> is a recruiter 01[16:56] <codeXveronica[uINE]> Keve 01[16:56] <codeXveronica[uINE]> I have been talking to cassius 01[16:56] <codeXveronica[uINE]> and he wants to come back... but he kinda thinks you were wrong by telling him he could be Triumvir and then having elections instead 01[16:56] <codeXveronica[uINE]> Plus its 11K NS 01[16:57] <codeXveronica[uINE]> and I guy who is good at finance and education 01[16:57] <codeXveronica[uINE]> if we are on his good side [16:58] <Keve69[uINE]> I know [16:58] <Keve69[uINE]> I was wrong [16:58] <Keve69[uINE]> and I told him [16:58] <Keve69[uINE]> but my back was against the wall Then the Top situation. 01[00:07] <codeXveronica[uINE]> Keve we got a new active members who use to be MoF at some other alliacne 01[00:07] <codeXveronica[uINE]> He needs to be masked 01[00:07] <codeXveronica[uINE]> I still dont have full admin 01[00:07] <codeXveronica[uINE]> and today TOP came to us wondering why TnE told them not to do tech deals with them 01[00:07] <codeXveronica[uINE]> lol 01[00:08] <codeXveronica[uINE]> Me and Pyro took care of it [00:08] <Keve69[uINE]> ok [00:08] <Keve69[uINE]> are they gonna leave TnE alone? 01[00:09] <codeXveronica[uINE]> I believe so... we told them that we are only obligated to trading with Blunity.. and so is TnE [00:09] <Keve69[uINE]> ok 01[00:09] <codeXveronica[uINE]> it was somethig that had to be made up spur of the moment... pyro was going to tell them that our allies intended to go to war with them 01[00:09] <codeXveronica[uINE]> in a few months 01[00:09] <codeXveronica[uINE]> I didnt think that was a good idea [00:11] <Keve69[uINE]> your damn right [00:11] <Keve69[uINE]> LOL [00:11] <Keve69[uINE]> that wasnt a good idea [00:11] <Keve69[uINE]> hehe 01[00:12] <codeXveronica[uINE]> lol 01[00:12] <codeXveronica[uINE]> <codeXveronica[uINE]> <Mack[TnE-Away]> [14:06] <Keve69[uINE]> ? 01[00:12] <codeXveronica[uINE]> <codeXveronica[uINE]> Its not a misunderstanding 01[00:12] <codeXveronica[uINE]> <codeXveronica[uINE]> I just got some logs 01[00:12] <codeXveronica[uINE]> <PyroPyotr[uINE|GOV]> yeah me too 01[00:12] <codeXveronica[uINE]> <PyroPyotr[uINE|GOV]> well 01[00:12] <codeXveronica[uINE]> <PyroPyotr[uINE|GOV]> I'm going to explain the situation to DrDan 01[00:12] <codeXveronica[uINE]> <codeXveronica[uINE]> Dont 01[00:12] <codeXveronica[uINE]> <codeXveronica[uINE]> Im not sure if you should do that yet 01[00:12] <codeXveronica[uINE]> <codeXveronica[uINE]> Do they know about this war yet? 01[00:12] <codeXveronica[uINE]> <codeXveronica[uINE]> or is it secret? 01[00:12] <codeXveronica[uINE]> -frozen.coldfront.net:@#secret- MackBot invited Demago into the channel. 01[00:12] <codeXveronica[uINE]> <PyroPyotr[uINE|GOV]> I don't think it's secret 01[00:12] <codeXveronica[uINE]> -ChanServ:#secret- PROTECT command used for Pickle[TnE] by MackBot 01[00:12] <codeXveronica[uINE]> <codeXveronica[uINE]> Just dont accidently give away intelligence. 01[00:12] <codeXveronica[uINE]> <PyroPyotr[uINE|GOV]> ok 01[00:12] <codeXveronica[uINE]> <PyroPyotr[uINE|GOV]> I wont 01[00:12] <codeXveronica[uINE]> <codeXveronica[uINE]> I would tell them that its just confidential... and in our own rights to deny sales to anyone given alliance and or entity 01[00:13] <codeXveronica[uINE]> but then we went with the blunity thing [00:15] <Keve69[uINE]> ok [00:15] <Keve69[uINE]> thx for the logs [00:15] <Keve69[uINE]> I understand you had to say something [00:16] <Keve69[uINE]> and pretty much make it up on the moment [00:16] <Keve69[uINE]> so good job Domestics in between. 01[16:56] <codeXveronica[uINE]> Because i honestly feel that you over reacted in this situation 01[16:56] <codeXveronica[uINE]> and you only punished me because you like Nathan so much 01[16:56] <codeXveronica[uINE]> And thats an unfair reason 01[16:56] <codeXveronica[uINE]> You didnt even want to reason or hear what I had to say 01[16:56] <codeXveronica[uINE]> It was that I change or I get fired 01[16:57] <codeXveronica[uINE]> SO I changed [16:57] <Keve69[uINE]> ok get it into your head.... NATHAN IS A NECCESSARY ELEMENT IN DEVELOPING UINE I WILL NOT TAKE CHANCES 01[16:57] <codeXveronica[uINE]> and then Nathan had a problem with that [16:57] <Keve69[uINE]> ok [16:57] <Keve69[uINE]> its not cuz I LIKE him 01[16:57] <codeXveronica[uINE]> Even it its unfair to everyone else .... yeah keve I get it [16:57] <Keve69[uINE]> its has nothing to do with it [16:57] <Keve69[uINE]> Moo-cows could come here [16:57] <Keve69[uINE]> and if Nathan made him wanna quit Id act the same way Me deciding I would just leave. [18:51] <Keve69[uINE]> right now Veronica I see you when you had merged into UINE [18:51] <Keve69[uINE]> exactly the same [18:52] <Keve69[uINE]> and I feel like your gonna be moving in the same direction.... [18:52] <Keve69[uINE]> and thats simply because you wont compromise 01[18:52] <codeXveronica[uINE]> Keve... I will compromise [18:52] <Keve69[uINE]> you wont do anything but the two extremes 01[18:52] <codeXveronica[uINE]> I respectfully step down as Triumvir of UINE 01[18:52] <codeXveronica[uINE]> Ok keve [18:52] <Keve69[uINE]> see that the extreme 01[18:52] <codeXveronica[uINE]> I am willing to compromise [18:52] <Keve69[uINE]> right there 01[18:53] <codeXveronica[uINE]> Even if it kills me 01[18:53] <codeXveronica[uINE]> I will compromise [18:53] <Keve69[uINE]> THANK GOD [18:53] <Keve69[uINE]> I love you 01[18:53] <codeXveronica[uINE]> and the old jenn will never rise [18:53] <Keve69[uINE]> thank gof [18:53] <Keve69[uINE]> god* [18:53] <Keve69[uINE]> thank you [18:53] <Keve69[uINE]> trust me [18:53] <Keve69[uINE]> you will become insanely more popular than me 01[18:53] <codeXveronica[uINE]> Ok... keve.. my compromise it step down [18:54] <Keve69[uINE]> what? 01[18:54] <codeXveronica[uINE]> Like I said... maybe in due time [18:54] <Keve69[uINE]> no-noi-no-no-no ok so you see time went on and I just wanted to leave UINE... I and just like before I had the last straw but me being the Christian and changed woman I am I refused to stay around and be a lap dog... I left... keve comes up with 30Million in Development I was supposed to of owed to him (agreement Never made) even after Keve admittes I was Key to Development and donated 70% of the recruitment... and even donated 70Million of my own recruitment money... ok so to make a long story short I left keve got pissy and attacked me... me being the better person got my new alliance to work on resolving it... it got resolved. IF you think keve is a good leader then by my guest. I could care less.... but enough is enough and when will te buck stop. Nov 18 17:44:09 <codeXveronica> Hello Nov 18 17:44:13 <codeXveronica> Can I ask you a few questions Nov 18 17:44:30 <Pickle[TnE]> hi Nov 18 17:44:48 <codeXveronica> Remember when Keve told you not to do tech deals with TOP? Nov 18 17:45:28 <Pickle[TnE]> yeah Nov 18 17:45:40 <codeXveronica> Do you remember the reason why? Nov 18 17:46:09 <codeXveronica> Wasnt it something because of a coming war.. with TOP and not being the ones to help them to develop any further? Nov 18 17:46:23 <Pickle[TnE]> yeah Nov 18 17:46:28 <codeXveronica> or was it something else... damn I cant remember Nov 18 17:46:54 <codeXveronica> thats it? Nov 18 17:47:18 <Pickle[TnE]> it was something about a war Nov 18 17:47:32 <codeXveronica> Do you remember who with... Nov 18 17:47:39 <Pickle[TnE]> top Nov 18 17:47:45 <codeXveronica> ok. Nov 18 17:47:53 <Pickle[TnE]> and some other allied alliance with top Nov 18 17:48:07 <Pickle[TnE]> i think one was gramlins but im not sure Nov 18 18:01:29 <codeXveronica> Thanks I appreciate it Nov 18 18:02:57 <Pickle[TnE]> Keves own protectorate... well have at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watchman Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 One of my reasons for wanting to distance myself from UINE has been because of TeamColtra's membership. Time and again he has proven himself a lightning rod for drama and tends to well overstay his welcome in alliances.I don't know any of the issues that caused this, and don't care to know. I do hope, however, that some lessons are learned from this and that you can move on for a better future. Well said, Kevin. I could not have said it better myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeXveronica Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 And Keve you can deny it all till the sun turns blue and that is just ok... I have god on my side and thats all I need. So good luck to you in the future... and if you want to make this into a debate then I have lots more logs.... from codeXveronicas side and before that toooo. Im making a stance.... and its the moral stance.... its the right stance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicninja Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Stuffff........ Yeah that doesn't show Keve in a bad light at all. Sorry try again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeXveronica Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Yeah that doesn't show Keve in a bad light at all. Sorry try again. I ddint call keve bad... or try to put him in a bad light.. I just want to tell the truth and thus it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicninja Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 I ddint call keve bad... or try to put him in a bad light.. I just want to tell the truth and thus it is. All you did is show that Keve has UINE's and his allies best interests at heart. I guess he should be thanking you? What exactly are you trying to prove here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timberland Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 (edited) never mind Edited November 23, 2009 by Timberland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NLights Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 (edited) I wish the best to all! Edited November 23, 2009 by NorthernLights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopherbashi Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 I dont expect anyone to see this from my point of view becuase of course you are not me... but the only thing I did wrong in UINE was voice my opinion and yeah I made a couple of FA flops... a few people even wanted to leave the alliance because I wasnt "A Friend" but to much of a "leader". At least that is what keve told me. I later went on that rouge stage which everyone should be aware of... but it was with good reason I left being promised that we would still be friends and that everything would be ok but as soon as I left it wasnt eventually I had people attacking me for every dime... people would query me and flame things up on IRC... then false lies started going around.... at that time all I wanted to see was the Fall of Keve... not UINE. I suppose the glaring question that remains is whether you were involved in, or otherwise supported, this coup attempt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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