Bernkastel Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 (edited) I was in UINE for a whopping 5 days (and was a DMoIA in that short time -- and I'm not even IA-centered) and Keve offered me whatever position I wanted just for me to stay (which did include the Triumvirate - I think it was Skoshuke's seat he planned on giving me). Note, I clearly didn't take the offer since I didn't want to interfere with democratic processes. I would've left eventually anyways so I could join my last alliance. A shame I didn't keep those logs, should have known Keve wasn't going to get far until he was found out. That's why I'm not surprised by this. Not in the very least. EDIT:: Also, I delete my logs 3 weeks after I leave an alliance. Kthnx. Edited November 23, 2009 by Beatrice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamcoltra Posted November 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 TeamColtra if you don't like it here is an idea....You can just git out! You don't coup a government because you alone don't like the direction they are allegedly going. I had never WANTED to do this... I was made aware by internal sources... and friends of the alliance, that it was a majority decission that wanted keve out of government. I had intended on leaving the alliance like a normal person, I dont NEED to have a coup on my record, especially a failed one. I intend on seeing that this is NOT failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopherbashi Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Some proof of Keves black mail for one Saying that he "doesnt care frankly" when cXv suggests that she'd be on a ZI list if she left? Saying that she has the repay growth money if she leaves, and then watching her try to e-lawyer her way out of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamcoltra Posted November 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Hardly, and CodeXVeronica will further post logs of her conversations with keve, but he has made it very clear that he would be throwing her to the wolfs if she left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 I don't really know what Keve did, but cVx seems like a GREAT person to have in your government based off those logs. She wanted to leave the alliance and now she is government! Imagine that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 (edited) Hardly, and CodeXVeronica will further post logs of her conversations with keve, but he has made it very clear that he would be throwing her to the wolfs if she left. Your counterargument is amazing. Also, Throwing her to the wolves if she left *gasp*. Since shes not in the alliance anymore, why would he protect her from the wolves? Show us the logs please, and don't make claims about them before having done so. Edited November 23, 2009 by Penlugue Solaris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The AUT Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Carthage does not support nor recognize the couping of Keve. Until order is restored within UINE and Keve is brought back to his rightful place, we will pull out of all obligations, namely the Tech Sellers Union. You won't get far without Keve, UINE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamcoltra Posted November 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 I don't really know what Keve did, but cVx seems like a GREAT person to have in your government based off those logs. She wanted to leave the alliance and now she is government! Imagine that. She wanted to leave the alliance because she was being tormented by Keve, and knew that the alliance was failing because of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minilla Island Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Just a question: How can someone be a Triumvir of UINE if they are a member of Echelon?: http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_d...ation_ID=353186 NOTE: At the time of posting, Veronica is an Echelon member. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hizzy Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Some proof of Keves black mail for one Do you even know what blackmail means? Those logs are a conversation between you, Keve, and cXv, so unless you and cXv did something illegal and keve is trying to make you pay him so he doesn't rat you out, then he isn't blackmail you or your goldfish. The logs show YOU crying like a little girl though. Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 What about the logs he posted? It clearly states that Keve planned to tech embargo Citadel because his ALLIES (aka you and those posting againist this coup) are planning a war against citadel. And why can't he do that? That's his position as the LEADER of the alliance to have his policy be in line with that of his allies. Also, its common knowledge (from IRC) that keve hid topics from alliances that came to TSU forums so that they wouldnt be seen by other TSU signatories). Prove. it. Ergo, he didn't tell everyone else in TSU to embargo Citadel, he just tried to trick them into doing so. No proof. Dark Templar is allied to Citadel? First ive heard of it. I remember them being allied to GR and NV and PC pretty clearly though. Echelon is against Citadel? First I've heard of it. Ridiculous claims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keve69 Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Ok these logs were already discussd in the past and have clearly been edited... *sigh* im not into the buisness of epic log-dumping so I wont go there... that being said as was mentiopned earlier you have no support from inside or outside UINE. Now, please go away... the only reason you were tollerated in UINE was because youve been telling me for a few weeks you were leaving and needed a place to stay until you could create your own alliance. Now with retrospect that was a mistake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hizzy Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 What about the logs he posted? It clearly states that Keve planned to tech embargo Citadel because his ALLIES (aka you and those posting againist this coup) are planning a war against citadel.Also, its common knowledge (from IRC) that keve hid topics from alliances that came to TSU forums so that they wouldnt be seen by other TSU signatories). Ergo, he didn't tell everyone else in TSU to embargo Citadel, he just tried to trick them into doing so. Proof: 1) Dark Templar as a Citadel alliance? 2) Echelon as a NpO ally? You crack me up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keve69 Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Indeed I am not and have never planned to hurt CItadel, this has been discussed with DrDan and TOP already... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Kremlin Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 3m/50 tech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balder Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 My failed coup was better. You should know by now you can never one up Otto V. Bismarck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Indeed I am not and have never planned to hurt CItadel, this has been discussed with DrDan and TOP already... You jerk not planning to hurt citadel gosh how could you. 3m/50 tech This I can agree with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamcoltra Posted November 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 My failed coup was better. You should know by now you can never one up Otto V. Bismarck. I was going to mention that: Dear NADC, This is what a coup looks like... Not messaging your friends telling them you want to start a new alliance. Love, Coltra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Stupid Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 TC from all the interactions i've had with you you've been one of the most power hungry guys in this game. You will not make it far on your own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Polaris = Anti-CitadelTOP = Citadel. Echelon and Dark Templar just happend to be next to them on the list =/ And they also disprove your example. Nice try though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eden Taylor Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 This is so ridiculous it doesn't even deserve the attention it's gotten and is going to get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamcoltra Posted November 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 How can you say that keve? <~Keve69[uINE]> FB (NpO, STA, NSO) Cit (TOP, GRemlins, Umbrella, Argent), SF (RoK, IRA, CSN, GOD, VE, etc...) and C&G (Athens, MK, Vanguard, etc...)<~Keve69[uINE]> each of the four sides wants to see the other 3 go down<~Keve69[uINE]> however makes the first mistake that leads to war<~Keve69[uINE]> will get raped by the 3 other sides<~Keve69[uINE]> UINE is very closely tied to FB (NpO) and less closely to RoK (SF)<+MajorLu[uINE|DMoIA]> an ice themed group for a canadian led alliance<~Keve69[uINE]> whatever happens I intend us to honour our treaties and will move with NpO<~Keve69[uINE]> our second consideration is RoK<~Keve69[uINE]> now let us all pray that FB isnt the first side to make a mistake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groucho Marx Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Clearly this is some ridiculous attempt to grab power in UINE. Just like a lot of others I only recognize Keve as the rightful Emperor of UINE, I hope the rest of UINE sees this for what it is and supports Keve as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeternalis Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 (edited) Am I the only one with a giant, "HURR?!" expression on his/her face right now? Edited November 23, 2009 by Aeternalis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathias Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 How can you say that keve?<~Keve69[uINE]> FB (NpO, STA, NSO) Cit (TOP, GRemlins, Umbrella, Argent), SF (RoK, IRA, CSN, GOD, VE, etc...) and C&G (Athens, MK, Vanguard, etc...)<~Keve69[uINE]> each of the four sides wants to see the other 3 go down<~Keve69[uINE]> however makes the first mistake that leads to war<~Keve69[uINE]> will get raped by the 3 other sides<~Keve69[uINE]> UINE is very closely tied to FB (NpO) and less closely to RoK (SF)<+MajorLu[uINE|DMoIA]> an ice themed group for a canadian led alliance<~Keve69[uINE]> whatever happens I intend us to honour our treaties and will move with NpO<~Keve69[uINE]> our second consideration is RoK<~Keve69[uINE]> now let us all pray that FB isnt the first side to make a mistake I can fake logs too. Lying wasn't invented yesterday you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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