Johnny Apocalypse Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 Oh crap, is RIA going to get attacked by NSO now? Don't be silly, that'd actually have consequences for NSO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diomede Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 It appeared that our hive mind wasn't fully functioning at the time. Atleast that ridiculous conspiracy talk seems to have ended. What are you on about? Cit's hivemind is in perfect sync! Oh, wait... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperion321 Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 You're missing my point.If NSO consider that any attack on their members requires a full DoW on the alliance responsible without any recourse to diplomacy, where are the DoW's on RIA, Lawless, The Solid States and Nex Consortio? the circumstances of those individual wars are quite different, which, correct me if I'm wrong, is most likely why NSO responded differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddog241 Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 im still in shock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin32891 Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 You're missing my point.If NSO consider that any attack on their members requires a full DoW on the alliance responsible without any recourse to diplomacy, where are the DoW's on RIA, Lawless, The Solid States and Nex Consortio? Because the RIA member wasn't a real RIA member, and lawless was made buy two player who got tech raided by us and wanted to get back at us. As for the other two I really don't care since I don't know who they are. Plus they didn't go ahead on the OWF and make a declaration like RAD did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lennox Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 (edited) Hey Moldavi:If I jokingly attacked one of your government boys, would you several minutes later post a declaration of war against the whole of CSN without even attempting to talk to anyone at CSN? (Let's be honest, this isn't a recognition, as RAD as an alliance never moved against you) Or was it that RAD, due to their treaty ties and member count, was just a more convenient target? Are you a govt member? If yes, then I can answer for him. Your alliance would be in the same position RAD is in now. edit:grammar is so hard. Edited August 16, 2009 by Lennox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Moldavi Posted August 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 You're missing my point.If NSO consider that any attack on their members requires a full DoW on the alliance responsible without any recourse to diplomacy, where are the DoW's on RIA, Lawless, The Solid States and Nex Consortio? Perhaps you could point out where any of those alliances posted an open declaration of war which included recognition that they would be responsible for their actions and perhaps you could follow that up with acknowledgement from the attacking nation, who happens to be government. Otherwise it is apples and oranges and such comparisons are really just ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivellios Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 Ok ok, how about we dont go off on random insubstantial tangents about theoretical wars that you guys are spawning in your heads? a and yay i agree with hyperion!! and CSN dropping threats now or just some ignorant members? ugh I hope not, CSN is cool B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heft Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 You're missing my point.If NSO consider that any attack on their members requires a full DoW on the alliance responsible without any recourse to diplomacy, where are the DoW's on RIA, Lawless, The Solid States and Nex Consortio? NSO does not "consider that any attack on [our] members requires a full DoW." Indeed they do, what I'm trying to find out here is why RAD seems to have drawn the short straw in this instance. Usually you can see this plainly enough in the CB. Here though, the CB seems to revolve around NSO declaring war on RAD because NSO doesn't have a sense of humour. Where more "serious" tech raids, such as the ones I've shown there, are left slide without such a heavy-handed reply. I like the think that we simply have a more evolved sense of humor. Please, i'd love to see a declaration on RIA Have at it, I won't get in your way. Don't be silly, that'd actually have consequences for NSO. Attacking alliances tends to have consequences? I had no idea. the circumstances of those individual wars are quite different, which, correct me if I'm wrong, is most likely why NSO responded differently. You are the winner. Congratulations. Nice to see you post something that isn't outright condemning us, as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperion321 Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 and yay i agree with hyperion!! Don't get used to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivellios Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 Come on, I think The New Sith Order and Sparta could be great freinds =D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin H Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 and it begins.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragashingo Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 *Veneke chucklesSo, am I to understand it that the NSO is out there to try and make people... better? Hehe. Something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Moldavi Posted August 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 and it begins.... What begins? [OOC]We are on page 42, we are just now beginning?[/OOC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperium of Poliz Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 Is this a real thread? is this actually happening? Hahahaha! Yay for NSO, standing up for the whole OWF! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivellios Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 clearly our secret alliance with Sparta is beginning... come on Moldavi B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penkala Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 Having read through all of the threads related to this conflict, I'm left with one question. It's not about whether or not RAD's thread was a joke. (Clearly, it was not.) It's not about whether someone from RAD launched a military attack against a member of the NSO. (Nobody's debating that.) Neither is it about whether the NSO has the right to defend its membership in any manner it sees fit. (NSO enjoys that right, as do all alliances.) Finally, it's not about some silly questions related to morality, over-reaction or anything like that. (I'm not in the business of telling the leaders of alliances how to conduct their business.)No, my question is this: Is Monos Archein allied to RAD in some way that's not mentioned on the Wiki? I ask because it has been made clear that Jason8 was (and still is) identified as a member of RAD's government, when in fact he apparently isn't any longer. RAD's Wiki entry is obviously out of date. I'm just trying to understand why MA's Deputy-Minister of Defense1made veiled threats, then backtracked, and now sports a signature that attacks the bloc NSO belongs to. (And which includes my alliance.) I was unaware that the New Polar Order, the Liquor Cabinet or the Siberian Tiger Alliance had done anything to antagonize Monos Archein in any way. Perhaps I'm mistaken? ---------- 1. I see he no longer identifies himself by said title. Hi. I'm still the Deputy Minister of Defense for Monos Archein. I did not make veiled threats. I am very forward about any threats, and if there were a reason for me to threaten anybody I wouldn't make them veiled. The thread I posted was not backtracking, it was an explanation. As to what connection we have to RAD, we are allies with RoK, who are allies and former protectors of RAD. Trust me, if I needed to threaten someone it wouldn't be 'veiled'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperion321 Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 clearly our secret alliance with Sparta is beginning... come on Moldavi B) Hm.....how can I respond to this one without getting fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corinan Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 Is this a real thread? is this actually happening? Hahahaha!Yay for NSO, standing up for the whole OWF! We're here for you guys. Read my signature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeinousOne Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 (edited) You're missing my point.If NSO consider that any attack on their members requires a full DoW on the alliance responsible without any recourse to diplomacy, where are the DoW's on RIA, Lawless, The Solid States and Nex Consortio? Why don't you point out the announcements made by all those alliances similiar to that of RAD? Also why don't you point out the increasing tensions over time with all of those alliances and NSO? You can't because you won't find either so why don't you just cease trying to force NSO into a little box so that they have to act the exact same way to each situation instead of deciding for themselves just like every other sovereign alliance. That is what you are trying to do, you realize that of course, right? Edit: Aww hell, this is what I get for stepping away for a few. A couple pages past the point I was so that I end up repeating that which others have already said. Edited August 16, 2009 by HeinousOne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivellios Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 Its ok Hyperion, everyone saw it coming B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penkala Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 (edited) Couple more things I missed. Why my signature? Because I don't support all of FB's posturing lately, against SF and against Citadel. It's quite annoying. Government members, even low-ranking ones, speak for their alliances. How about this: I'll tell you when I'm speaking for Monos Archein and when I'm speaking for Superfriends. Because I haven't (ooc)posted(ooc) anything on behalf of either party, ever. When I do I'll be sure to give you, Kingzog, warning Now do my actions reflect upon my alliance? Sure, to many people they do. But am I speaking on behalf of my allies? Nope, I'm not. Edit: also I laughed out loud when I saw my (ooc)sig image in someone else's sig(ooc) so I decided to give it some more exposure. Common, you gotta admit, it's funny Edited August 16, 2009 by Penkala Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeinousOne Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 Couple more things I missed. Why my signature? Because I don't support all of FB's posturing lately, against SF and against Citadel. It's quite annoying. How about this: I'll tell you when I'm speaking for Monos Archein and when I'm speaking for Superfriends. Because I haven't (ooc)posted(ooc) anything on behalf of either party, ever. When I do I'll be sure to give you, Kingzog, warning Now do my actions reflect upon my alliance? Sure, to many people they do. But am I speaking on behalf of my allies? Nope, I'm not. Oh that is rich. "Hey look Citadel, we should be friends because FB postures against both of us." Oh please...spare me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corinan Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 Couple more things I missed. Why my signature? Because I don't support all of FB's posturing lately, against SF and against Citadel. It's quite annoying. How about this: I'll tell you when I'm speaking for Monos Archein and when I'm speaking for Superfriends. Because I haven't (ooc)posted(ooc) anything on behalf of either party, ever. When I do I'll be sure to give you, Kingzog, warning Now do my actions reflect upon my alliance? Sure, to many people they do. But am I speaking on behalf of my allies? Nope, I'm not. Didn't you say something about RAD having the full weight of SuperFriends behind it earlier in this thread? Pretty sure that was you.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew The Great Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 cool a new war please become interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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