Icy McFlame Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 Hello CN community, Recent, actually currently, I am being raided. As I was teamed up on I used the standard tactic of turtlling to stop all profit taking from my nation. This message then arrived: To: Icy McFlame From: Tsar Kalashnikov Date: 7/22/2009 9:53:16 AMSubject: RE: War Declared! Message: Maybe I will . Just as a warning though, if you don't at least buy soldiers and attempt to fight I will have to nuke you. Have a nice day! Of course as he doesn't really know how to raid profitably he has taken this tactic to try to gain profit. I log in tonight to this: To: Icy McFlame From: Tsar Kalashnikov Date: 7/23/2009 12:22:52 AMSubject: Nuclear Attack Message: Your nation has been attacked with nuclear weapons by Tsar Kalashnikov. You lost 0 soldiers, 0 defending tanks, 7 cruise missiles, 141.530 miles of land, 23.650 technology, 161.773 infrastructure, 75% of your aircraft, and 25% of your nuclear vulnerable navy force. In addition to these losses your nation will experience many days of economic devastation. My question is not "zomgosh i iz glowing green, so unfair", I've been nuked before and this wont be the last time I'm nuked. The question is "Is nuke raiding an acceptable raid standard for the community?" And to get in before any "join an alliance if you don't want to get attacked" posts this is once again not about me being attacked but about this tactic used to try to gain profit. Thanks in advance, my knowing the acceptable community standard well help me in the future once I get nukes. -Icy McFlame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperium of Poliz Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 (edited) Which dastardly Alliance is behind this? EDIT: My first first xD Edited July 23, 2009 by Imperium of Poliz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilien Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 Looks like this guy is pretty awful at stealing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Death II Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 Meh, its more his loss than yours. A nuke means that he will end up stealing less money/tech and it will push you further to turtle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorConcept Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 I recommend contacting walford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venom4Viper Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 (edited) i think this is a FAIL situation....Nuke for not buying soldiers oO Edited July 23, 2009 by Venom4Viper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanGDI Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 Meh, someone pissed off that they didn't get to raid you, so they nuked you in anger. Not to sure if it falls under illegal by at least some alliances' standards, but it's surely a dishonourable act. Kinda like extortion I guess...he basically said to give him your money/tech/land or he'll do as much damage as possible to you. No brownie points for that in my books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logan1 Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 poor show. good luck icy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kowalski Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 That's pretty appalling and I don't think any alliance would consider this to be acceptable tech raiding etiquette. But you're unaligned so I'm afraid you get pushed around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonic Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 i for one wouldn't waste a nuke on a raid target especially if he wasn't fighting back i mean if i was in your situation i would of done the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unko Kalaikz Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 (edited) Nuke his $@! back! EDIT... ah you have no nukes. Personally I think it's sad NPO is not allowed to enforce anti-raiding rules on red. Red really was a bastion for nonaligned casual and inactive players. Edited July 23, 2009 by Count da Silva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Jimmy Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 That was just uncalled for. I'm going to go with epic fail, given that he gained nothing, lost a nuke, and still can't get what he wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enderland Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 First strike nukes in tech raids are not as uncommon as people might think (nuking a raided nation before that nation uses nukes, for whatever reason). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x Tela x Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 Pretty weak. Would have expected better from them, considering their current leadership and experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essenia Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 Using nukes as extortion? I admit, times like these make me long for a hegemonic power that would roll an alliance for allowing this garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nintenderek Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 (edited) Oh you kids and your pixels. I hope he doesn't actually expect to gain anything from a nuclear attack. That will just make the raiding harder. So, either he made a really bad mistake, or he's just being a jerk. Edited July 23, 2009 by Nintenderek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomcat Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 Expect bad things to happen to you when you're unaligned. It's possible that he just nuked you for fun. Or to test out his arsenal on somebody who won't fight back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirDelirium Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 He just cost himself a mil to send that nuke, plus possible exploits from your nation. I would nuke anyone in my alliance that used this tactic myself, thats how bad it is. I'm all for raids, and I did use bombers a few times on stubborn targets who turtled on me, but even then I was new and inexperienced. I didn't know it was wrong at the time. Hopefully this is just a new player who doesn't know what he's doing (although how you get nukes and don't know what you are doing is a big question). Really though, if I were you I would hop into an AA like the Citadel Trading Company or something that isn't so much an alliance as it is just a protected group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essenia Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 He just cost himself a mil to send that nuke, plus possible exploits from your nation. I would nuke anyone in my alliance that used this tactic myself, thats how bad it is. I'm all for raids, and I did use bombers a few times on stubborn targets who turtled on me, but even then I was new and inexperienced. I didn't know it was wrong at the time. Hopefully this is just a new player who doesn't know what he's doing (although how you get nukes and don't know what you are doing is a big question). Nation Created: 1/25/07. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melchior Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 I don't think it's new raid tactic, I just think many dislike it for its costliness. Also I consider this thread as a cry echoing 'zomgosh i iz glowing green, so unfair' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Guildenstern Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 Sadly, as in all walks of life, some people in CN are friendly and helpful, and some people are mindless maggots. At 910 days old, it's not like he's inexperienced, so he clearly just enjoys being the latter. Perhaps save his nation to your notepad for a later date? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Wally Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 To be honest anyone who has got to your size and is still unaligned and not hiding in peace mode has got to expect to get nuked... (and probebly ZI'd eventually) the tactic is most probebly unprofitable but trust me ive seen many many a nation raid with no intent to make profit. A lot of people just do it for the sick satisfaction of blowing stuff up. CN is a game played over many months if not years, a lot of people just get bored some days and raid purely to destroy someones nation, the fact you turtled no doubt got him more frustrated then normal and you bore the brunt of it. Your in a big bad CN world out there... not everything is logical... although you don't want to talk about it im afraid the real issue here is that you have failed to protect your nation by establishing a network of allies. This is a nation simulator... building strong allies is just as important as building infra or tech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lebubu Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 The question is "Is nuke raiding an acceptable raid standard for the community?" There is no such thing as "acceptable raid standard for the community". Deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Schwarze Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 Sadly, as in all walks of life, some people in CN are friendly and helpful, and some people are mindless maggots. At 910 days old, it's not like he's inexperienced, so he clearly just enjoys being the latter.Perhaps save his nation to your notepad for a later date? That isn't a half bad idea. It would be hilarious for him to log-in one day to find himself under attack from multiple nations and glowing more than Luke's Lightsabre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poyplemonkeys Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 Don't really think this guy cares for profit too much. I've seen him drop his AA a couple of times in the past for short periods of time, presumably hoping he gets raided so he can have some fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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