Roadie Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Ah, yes, they were butchered by CnG. I'll apologize to you for my lack of moral compass, as I have clearly displayed it in my actions during my tenure here. I'm sorry that I've disappointed you. You've not disappointed me nor do you need to apologize to me for any moral compass you may or may not have. I won't be one of the members of the alliance you're in. Those are the only people who are owed anything. For the record though, it's difficult to pin the deaths during the UJW on C&G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilien Posted June 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 You've not disappointed me nor do you need to apologize to me for any moral compass you may or may not have. I won't be one of the members of the alliance you're in. Those are the only people who are owed anything. For the record though, it's difficult to pin the deaths during the UJW on C&G. Obvious sarcasm does not translate well over the internet, I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 You've not disappointed me nor do you need to apologize to me for any moral compass you may or may not have. I won't be one of the members of the alliance you're in. Those are the only people who are owed anything. For the record though, it's difficult to pin the deaths during the UJW on C&G. CnG totally wrecked \m/. True story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadie Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Obvious sarcasm does not translate well over the internet, I suppose. It translated just fine. Attempting to deflect the point with it just does your alliances a disservice. So I ignored it and kept on point. A project such as the one you've set out on requires an ability for introspection that very few people have. This would be the single most important point to keep in mind at all times. For all members, not just yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadie Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 CnG totally wrecked \m/. True story. It was all so they could form Mushroom Kingdom. An excellent plot if there ever was one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jer Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 (edited) Good luck Vilien. Edited June 10, 2009 by Aimee Mann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Death II Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 (edited) This announcement needs less fighting and more congrats Edited June 10, 2009 by King Death II Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilien Posted June 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 It translated just fine. Attempting to deflect the point with it just does your alliances a disservice. So I ignored it and kept on point.A project such as the one you've set out on requires an ability for introspection that very few people have. This would be the single most important point to keep in mind at all times. For all members, not just yourself. That will be our concern. Your job is to serve your alliance as best you can. Keep us honest, and we'll be grateful for your service in that aspect at the very least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 This announcement needs less fighting and more congrats Already did it. Not doing it again. Also, discuss how CnG rolled \m/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeinousOne Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Good luck getting enough nations in the alliance to actually have the Moldavi Doctrine apply to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alterego Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 (edited) I HEREBY DECLARE that the Moldavi Doctrine is null and void. The only people who can say a policy is null and void are the people who created it. You can no more do that than I can declare your policies null and void. The policy might not be enforced at the moment but it still exists, unless I missed the NPO announcement. The rst is more of the same look at who moral we are, we are great Edited June 10, 2009 by Alterego Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilien Posted June 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 The only people who can say a policy is null and void are the people who created it. You can no more do that than I can declare your policies null and void. The policy might not be enforced at the moment but it still exists, unless I missed the NPO announcement. If they want to argue the point, that's their job. As far as I'm concerned, Moldavi Doctrine is null and void. Pacifica can deal with that on their own time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tromp Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Good luck Vilien. You seem like a good guy to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steodonn Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 I support this stance And good luck with this here Moralist Front Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alterego Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 If they want to argue the point, that's their job. As far as I'm concerned, Moldavi Doctrine is null and void. Pacifica can deal with that on their own time. You talk about self determination and then tell an alliance their policy is null and void. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilien Posted June 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 You talk about self determination and then tell an alliance their policy is null and void. Self-determination does not include the right to tell an alliance or nation where it may or may not reside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadie Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Already did it. Not doing it again. Also, discuss how CnG rolled \m/ Also GOONS. CnG would have to have rolled them also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadie Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Self-determination does not include the right to tell an alliance or nation where it may or may not reside. I would have to agree with this. An alliances sovereignty ends where it intrudes on anothers sovereignty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alterego Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Self-determination does not include the right to tell an alliance or nation where it may or may not reside. Self-determination is defined as free choice of one's own acts without external compulsion; and especially as the freedom of the people of a given territory It includes them making their own decisions not others telling them which policies they can and cant implement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilien Posted June 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 It includes them making their own decisions not others telling them which policies they can and cant implement. It is no one's right to implement a policy that suffocates the liberties of other men. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haflinger Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 It is no one's right to implement a policy that suffocates the liberties of other men. But not women? This is the age-old freedom to vs. freedom from argument. Alterego is arguing freedom to, you're arguing freedom from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Flech Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 I have declared the Moldavi Doctrine null and void also, I just didn't announce it. Also, I'm glad there's tons of new Red alliances popping up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alterego Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 It is no one's right to implement a policy that suffocates the liberties of other men. Whos liberty was suffocated? There are 12 team colours to choose from! Compared to that I would say being told which policies they can and cant have is a bigger denial of liberty and self determination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomInterrupt Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 It'll be fun to see what happens when the NPO finally gets their peace terms. Also I fail to see how morals are manifest in opportunists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coven Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Good luck with the alliance but personally I despise any organization that attempts to impose their morales upon others. Morality is a mask that is often worn to mask ones true agenda. Yah, I gotta agree with this. Not that I agree with the Moldavi Doctrine, but seriously, that is for NPO to decide and change, not you. And whether you say it is null and void or not, until NPO says otherwise, it still exist. Have fun. B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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