Roadie Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Yup, the NPO will be the first to justify realpolitik.Is that what you were asking? I think he's saying realpolitk is not about standing up for your friends, but about getting the best deal you can for yourself. Hence you can feel like Bama or go the realpolitik route you suggested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heyman Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Yup, the NPO will be the first to justify realpolitik.Is that what you were asking? Well, it certainly is an eye for an eye. True to this coalition's perspective. As some men have said: "$%&@ your buddy." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shahenshah Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 (edited) Good Riddance. Anyway Good Luck VP members in your future endeavors. Edited May 21, 2009 by shahenshah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doitzel Posted May 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 I have been a member of TPF for 236 days. Never in that time, anywhere in our forums, have I ever seen this list you speak of nor anything about us being at war with Vox. You proclaim to be persecuted by us from your soap box as a way to get attention LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME!)when the fact is, we don't care enough about you or Vox to so much as mention you in our forums. lol But you care enough to set up canary traps and announce your triumph of catching a low-level spy at the top of your lungs (LOOK AT ME!)? I didn't think we were at war with you until it was communicated to me that your leader thought otherwise. When I offered peace, I was refused. We were told to surrender. Cracks me up. While I'm sure Minitru is hard at work assuring everyone that our disbandment was a result of overwhelming applied force, we simply didn't feel like waiting around: we wanted to go out on our terms. So we have. So if you don't mind, go back to your "not caring" activities by "not caring" to stink up the place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaBuc Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Indeed. You should ask some MCXA members. The chicken/Godzilla looking thing said it before I could... I don't really know who you're referring to. It doesn't matter... Was every one of Francesca's brothers and sisters a traitor, even if some were? No. There are some good people at MCXA. They didn't deserve to be stabbed in the back. One thing I've learned in this game is that you can debate abstract e-morality all day, and it's not necessarily a bad thing, but at the end of the day... The best thing you can do is stand shoulder with your friends, regardless of whether they're viewed as e-saints or e-devils. Major OOC attacks excepted, I'd go down for my friends any day of the week, regardless of whether or not I agree with what they did to get in that situation. The pixels aren't real. They're worthless. The people are the only things in this game that are real, the only things that matter. Just my two cents. -Bama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal Paradise Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 (edited) I think he's saying realpolitk is not about standing up for your friends, but about getting the best deal you can for yourself.Hence you can feel like Bama or go the realpolitik route you suggested. Yeah, and I'm saying the NPO went the realpolitik route and fooled you all into believing in friendship. What do you think Francoism is? Edited May 21, 2009 by Sal Paradise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal Paradise Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Well, it certainly is an eye for an eye. True to this coalition's perspective.As some men have said: "$%&@ your buddy." We're talking about Vox. But I feel free to reduce things to your talking points so you can better understand. Sippy cups will be past around shortly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heyman Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Yeah, and I'm saying the NPO went the realpolitik route and fooled you all into believing in friendship. What do you think Francoism is? Because friendship isn't arbitrary? Give me a break. Just because NPO made fake friends doesn't mean friendship and solidarity should be thrown out the window. Besides, who are Vox to follow NPO's example? Their entire purpose was it's destruction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zigbigadorlou Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 /meaningless sentimental wall of text/ sorry kid, but you're really not that important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal Paradise Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Just because NPO made fake friends doesn't mean friendship and solidarity should be thrown out the window. Good thing I didn't say that. Besides, who are Vox to follow NPO's example? Their entire purpose was it's destruction. Tough love. And the betrayals of any intra-hegemony friendships are justifiable when those friendships are cynically constructed (which is my point if you've been following along). No one should fault a slave for killing his master. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heyman Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Good thing I didn't say that. It's a good thing you didn't need to. Tough love. And the betrayals of any intra-hegemony friendships are justifiable when those friendships are cynically constructed (which is my point if you've been following along). No one should fault a slave for killing his master. There's no love there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wu Tang Clan Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Way to go Vox. Mission Impossible: Success. Sleep well. o/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadie Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 lolBut you care enough to set up canary traps and announce your triumph of catching a low-level spy at the top of your lungs (LOOK AT ME!)? I didn't think we were at war with you until it was communicated to me that your leader thought otherwise. When I offered peace, I was refused. We were told to surrender. Cracks me up. While I'm sure Minitru is hard at work assuring everyone that our disbandment was a result of overwhelming applied force, we simply didn't feel like waiting around: we wanted to go out on our terms. So we have. So if you don't mind, go back to your "not caring" activities by "not caring" to stink up the place. In all seriousness, if you didn't even know we were at war with you, is it something really worth complaining about regularly? Be honest with me. As for whether or not we should have peaced you out while you were still at war with our allies... You have your view and we have ours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal Paradise Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 There's no love there. Poor thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heyman Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Poor thing. Can you imagine? Probably not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadie Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 (edited) Yeah, and I'm saying the NPO went the realpolitik route and fooled you all into believing in friendship. What do you think Francoism is? I'm not sure you can point to an example of NPO stabbing us in the back. Why is it that you think NPO 'fooled' us. More importantly, even if they didn't believe in our friendship, that does not mean we shouldn't believe in friendship. Edited May 21, 2009 by Roadie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadie Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 (edited) We're talking about Vox. But I feel free to reduce things to your talking points so you can better understand. Sippy cups will be past around shortly. Oh no you don't. The post he replied to is one where you mention NPO and said nothing about Vox. Edited May 21, 2009 by Roadie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal Paradise Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 I'm not sure you can point to an example of NPO stabbing us in the back. Why is it that you think NPO 'fooled' us. Why would they stab a loyal slave in the back? More importantly, even if they didn't believe in our friendship, that does not mean we shouldn't believe in friendship. No. I didn't say that. And I already said I didn't say that. Oh no you don't. The post he replid to is one where you mention NPO and said nothing about Vox. Vox and to be more specific, their war with the NPO. Not Karma, which he tried to make it about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaneTheMessiah Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 o/ Vox! You will be missed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickenzilla Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Why would they stab a loyal slave in the back?No. I didn't say that. And I already said I didn't say that. Vox and to be more specific, their war with the NPO. Not Karma, which he tried to make it about. Sal, all he wants is attention. If you don't respond to him, maybe he'll go away for once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxfiles Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 I underexagerated...my bad. I wonder what some alliances would do to each other if they saw all of Vox's spy data that we collected. oh yes I am sure Francesca copied as much as she could from mcxa's bunker and gov't areas... I think it would be what they would do to you guys regardless of no PZI or EZI rules... some alliances have put in place... yes it might cause wars... but I'm sure they would deal with whoever copied the info... eventually people will talk.. its the nature of the beast. either way I dont think this is the last we have heard of Vox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadie Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Why would they stab a loyal slave in the back? You said they 'fooled' us into thinking we were friends. Now it's slaves. But you still don't provided anything to say we were 'fooled'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal Paradise Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Sal, all he wants is attention. If you don't respond to him, maybe he'll go away for once. But I want attention too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angrator Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 It makes me laugh to see people trolling this thread. We are disbanding, and here they are still carrying on about the past. To those people, get a life! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhawk Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 lolBut you care enough to set up canary traps and announce your triumph of catching a low-level spy at the top of your lungs (LOOK AT ME!)? I didn't think we were at war with you until it was communicated to me that your leader thought otherwise. When I offered peace, I was refused. We were told to surrender. Cracks me up. While I'm sure Minitru is hard at work assuring everyone that our disbandment was a result of overwhelming applied force, we simply didn't feel like waiting around: we wanted to go out on our terms. So we have. So if you don't mind, go back to your "not caring" activities by "not caring" to stink up the place. If you didn't consider us at war, why were you spying on us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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