Ryan S Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 it shook things up for a while I suppose kinda a pointless AA clash in my opinion though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antitank Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 had fun all round good clean fight, all sides kept it respectful on to rebuilding O/ TOOL also good job DT, kept me busy all war ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffers Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 well im glad we didnt waste those target lists TOOL, it's been a blast (a nuclear one at that) fighting you guys, best of luck in your rebuilding! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimeMaster Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Sparta, DT, Brig, AO: You guys thought this was needed? You could probably have 'encouraged' TOOL to take harsher terms. As it is, this looks like a concession on the part of you guys. You have basically stated that you won't have any more serious involvement in this war, which is far more than you should have given to an alliance that looks as if it's surrendering to you guys (TOOL). Bad form, Sparta, DT, Brig, and AO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalC Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Mass peaces. It is definitely so that the end of the war is near Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orkules Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 A question: Does agreement mean that Sparta cannot continue to persecute it's war against NPO? Or is that purpose of the Section 8? These were not very well written, it's hard to figure out exactly what they mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Instr Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Basically all the Karma alliances on this treaty pussied out. The most shameful part of what has happened was Sparta. They've white-peaced NPO and disguised it as white-peacing a second-tier alliance. If you're going to white peace NPO at least do it openly, goddamnit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Instr Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 (edited) doublepost Edited April 30, 2009 by Inst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaBuc Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Basically all the Karma alliances on this treaty pussied out. The most shameful part of what has happened was Sparta. They've white-peaced NPO and disguised it as white-peacing a second-tier alliance. If you're going to white peace NPO at least do it openly, goddamnit. They did not. Article 8 is an exception to Article 5. -Bama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Good fight everyone. o/ Fighters involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffers Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Basically all the Karma alliances on this treaty pussied out. The most shameful part of what has happened was Sparta. They've white-peaced NPO and disguised it as white-peacing a second-tier alliance. If you're going to white peace NPO at least do it openly, goddamnit. Did you even bother to read the terms? let me refresh your memory: 8 ) This agreement for peace doesn't effect Sparta's stance with the NPO in their current conflict. that do anything for ya? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Monkey Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 (edited) Sorry to see the KARMA alliances surrender. I thought you guys were doing well, guess not. 5 ) Sparta, DT, AO, and Brig agree NOT to declare war, offensively, against any of the following alliances: IRON, TPF, FEAR, NEW, UCN, Zenith or NPO until the end of the "Karma" War. looks like they cant redeclare. Edited April 30, 2009 by Killer Monkey land Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankees Empire Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Sorry to see the KARMA alliances surrender. I thought you guys were doing well, guess not.5 ) Sparta, DT, AO, and Brig agree NOT to declare war, offensively, against any of the following alliances: IRON, TPF, FEAR, NEW, UCN, Zenith or NPO until the end of the "Karma" War. looks like they cant redeclare. This is not a surrender for anyone. This is white peace, so in effect, a draw. Also, as it's been stated, Sparta is allowed to continue its war with NPO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orkules Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 They did not. Article 8 is an exception to Article 5.-Bama Thank you for clarifying. Personally don't see why they would agree to that kind of term but I am not them so I will let it go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poobah Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 This is not a surrender for anyone. This is white peace, so in effect, a draw.Also, as it's been stated, Sparta is allowed to continue its war with NPO. White peace =/= draw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heracles the Great Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Odd terms, but congrats I suppose - Good luck to all those involved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heft Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 First question: Why is the word "aid" CAPITALIZED in clause 3? Second question: Why would Karma alliances give any concessions to their opponents, at all? I personally like TOOL and don't really dislike any of the others, so I'm happy to see them score what amounts to a victory, given their position, but it is rather puzzling to see happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shodemofi-NPO Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 This is not a surrender for anyone. This is white peace, so in effect, a draw.Also, as it's been stated, Sparta is allowed to continue its war with NPO. Just because the word "surrender" wasn't used in the agreement doesn't mean that isn't what it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Moon Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 First question: Why is the word "aid" CAPITALIZED in clause 3?Second question: Why would Karma alliances give any concessions to their opponents, at all? I personally like TOOL and don't really dislike any of the others, so I'm happy to see them score what amounts to a victory, given their position, but it is rather puzzling to see happen. Not to mention, why is NPO listed at all in Clause 5 if it's negated by Clause 8? Obviously it means something, so what exactly is this being interpreted to mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orkules Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 This is not a surrender for anyone. This is white peace, so in effect, a draw.Also, as it's been stated, Sparta is allowed to continue its war with NPO. I laughed. A white peace does not mean a draw. It merely means they don't demand you to give up control of parts of your alliance. A draw would imply that both were fought to a standstill which I know is not true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentFury Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Nice glad to see this is all sorted out o/FnKa o/ TOOL o/ The Brigade Much respect to brigade its been a fun one guys!!! <3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaBuc Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Not to mention, why is NPO listed at all in Clause 5 if it's negated by Clause 8? Obviously it means something, so what exactly is this being interpreted to mean? The other alliances pledged not to hit NPO. Sparta is an exception as per Article 8. -Bama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Blake Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Just because the word "surrender" wasn't used in the agreement doesn't mean that isn't what it was. Would 'armistice' suffice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Salovsky Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 *Sigh*... again. The war is coming to an end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heft Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 This is not a surrender for anyone. This is white peace, so in effect, a draw.Also, as it's been stated, Sparta is allowed to continue its war with NPO. As it's written, it's incredibly vague and the only reasonable conclusion is what KML said. To have a clause three clauses afterwards that creates an exception, and then word that exception clause in so vague a manner that it isn't actually clear that that is what it is, well that's just poor writing, right there. For shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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