Ogaden Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 (edited) Every single alliance in CN has a sphere of influence around themselves, and in that regard would be too long to list. I have attempted to construct here an outline of the power spheres I see existing today. As you can see, a large number of alliances overlap over many power spheres. In effect, these spheres are part of that alliance's power sphere as well, and often the 'tail is wagging the dog' especially where a sphere is connected to an alliance much more powerful than themselves. AZTEC: DT, GLOF, Sengoku, AB, NSF AZTEC Sphere of Influence: IRON, HB, Argent, DBDC C&G: TLR, ODN, GATO C&G sphere of influence: NG, NPO, NSO, INT, SL, TIO Usual Suspects: R&R, NATO, TIO Usual Suspects sphere of influence: NPO, RIA, TPF, LSF, GOD, GATO, LoSS, Argent, IRON, MCXA, Fark, Echelon, NPL Aftermath/Sentinel: CCC, CRAP, TTK, MCXA, NADC, UPN, USN, GDA, Menotah (UPN is in both blocs) Aftermath sphere of influence: RIA, GOD, Avalanche, Sparta, TLRep, Echelon, DB4D, NpO, TIO, LoSS, NpO, TOP Beer-o-sphere: NpO, Sparta, Fark, MHA, AO, GO Beer-o-sphere of influence: RIA, Legion, Invicta, CCC, Avalanche, R&R, NPL, KoN, UPN, TOP, USN, MI6 Invict-o-sphere: Invicta, Legion, TLRep Invict-o-sphere of influence: NpO, USN, Menotah, TTK, WAPA, Sparta DoomHouse Platysphere: TOP, Umbrella, GOONS Platysphere of Influence: MI6, NpO, UPN, DoD, TLR, DBDC, VE, INT DuckRoll: IRON, AI, ML, Argent DuckRoll sphere of influence: Valhalla, VE, NG, GLOF, TIO, NPO, GRE, SNAFU, TPF, Sengoku Die Linke: UCR, LSF, SWF Die Linke sphere of influence: SL, TE, NATO BFF 2.0: FEAR, NEW, WolfPack, Kaskus BFF 2.0 sphere of influence: DB4D, Valhalla Co-Prosperia: Kashmir, tJL, Riot Society Co-Prosperia sphere of influence: SC, NSO, Doom Squad Edited February 20, 2014 by Ogaden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auctor Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 There should probably be some kinda NS delineation as to what constitutes a "power sphere". Something at least capable of fighting a sanctioned alliance head on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogaden Posted February 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 (edited) There should probably be some kinda NS delineation as to what constitutes a "power sphere". Something at least capable of fighting a sanctioned alliance head on. This is what a lot of people do but it's inaccurate. There are large and powerful power spheres upon which the axis of the world turns, and there are small power spheres that probably couldn't take on a 2mil NS alliance, let alone a sanctioned one, but the political relationships involved are important and they are a distinct sphere. Also like I said, every alliance has an individual power sphere are those are as important as the blocs and multi-alliance spheres, and actually are often more important. NPO and IRON and NpO their private sphere and who is in it had a dramatic effect on the last war for instance, much moreso than any bloc. Edited February 20, 2014 by Ogaden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auctor Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 This is what a lot of people do but it's inaccurate. There are large and powerful power spheres upon which the axis of the world turns, and there are small power spheres that probably couldn't take on a 2mil NS alliance, let alone a sanctioned one. Power Sphere just connotes some kind of power projection capability to my mind, alliances being clustered on the web wouldn't make you a sphere as such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogaden Posted February 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Well let's look at things from a different perspective. Why don't I put the aggregate power of the "private spheres" of the top 80 alliances Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 You're not looking at what exactly holds a power sphere together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auctor Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Well let's look at things from a different perspective. Why don't I put the aggregate power of the "private spheres" of the top 80 alliances Runs back into the problem of who exerts influence on whom. That's kinda the weakness of all these analyses, we're looking at treaties and not necessarily inclinations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxplayer Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Damn, just forget about us will ya :P I mean, NSF does have an MDoAP with DT. And Honestly, I'd say that C&G and US are very close together treaty wise, almost as if they were their own sphere combined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogaden Posted February 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 The top 12 let's start with1: GPA sphere: 202 Nations, 16,684,313 NS, 82,596 Avg NS, 62.07 score, 743,523 Land, 2,442,049 Infra, 1,237,676 Tech2: IRON sphere: 985 Nations, 37,958,756 NS, 38,537 Avg NS, 158.04 score, 1,180,780 Land, 5,104,079 Infra, 3,129,645 Tech3: WTF sphere: 169 Nations, 15,678,248 NS, 92,771 Avg NS, 57.67 score, 779,144 Land, 2,110,154 Infra, 1,293,097 Tech4: NPO sphere: 1164 Nations, 34,875,670 NS, 29,962 Avg NS, 153.50 score, 967,844 Land, 4,893,814 Infra, 2,893,637 Tech5: PAX sphere: 110 Nations, 6,849,771 NS, 62,271 Avg NS, 26.35 score, 307,882 Land, 1,019,281 Infra, 518,475 Tech6: NpO sphere: 1342 Nations, 46,028,324 NS, 34,298 Avg NS, 196.38 score, 1,096,507 Land, 6,613,928 Infra, 3,489,462 Tech7: DT sphere: 364 Nations, 18,972,608 NS, 52,123 Avg NS, 74.88 score, 702,404 Land, 2,592,745 Infra, 1,594,839 Tech8: ODN sphere: 693 Nations, 19,767,180 NS, 28,524 Avg NS, 88.07 score, 475,940 Land, 2,879,036 Infra, 1,630,722 Tech9: Umb sphere: 540 Nations, 23,931,548 NS, 44,318 Avg NS, 97.05 score, 618,827 Land, 2,910,943 Infra, 2,121,039 Tech10: R&R sphere: 758 Nations, 24,096,057 NS, 31,789 Avg NS, 104.58 score, 588,191 Land, 3,379,175 Infra, 1,938,168 Tech11: TOP sphere: 710 Nations, 29,110,213 NS, 41,000 Avg NS, 119.76 score, 728,643 Land, 3,706,512 Infra, 2,492,013 Tech12: Fark sphere: 1035 Nations, 34,064,078 NS, 32,912 Avg NS, 146.67 score, 782,023 Land, 4,842,157 Infra, 2,662,109 TechSo ranked by sphere power, this list actually goes:1: NpO sphere: 1342 Nations, 46,028,324 NS, 34,298 Avg NS, 196.38 score, 1,096,507 Land, 6,613,928 Infra, 3,489,462 Tech2: IRON sphere: 985 Nations, 37,958,756 NS, 38,537 Avg NS, 158.04 score, 1,180,780 Land, 5,104,079 Infra, 3,129,645 Tech3: NPO sphere: 1164 Nations, 34,875,670 NS, 29,962 Avg NS, 153.50 score, 967,844 Land, 4,893,814 Infra, 2,893,637 Tech4: Fark sphere: 1035 Nations, 34,064,078 NS, 32,912 Avg NS, 146.67 score, 782,023 Land, 4,842,157 Infra, 2,662,109 Tech5: TOP sphere: 710 Nations, 29,110,213 NS, 41,000 Avg NS, 119.76 score, 728,643 Land, 3,706,512 Infra, 2,492,013 Tech6: R&R sphere: 758 Nations, 24,096,057 NS, 31,789 Avg NS, 104.58 score, 588,191 Land, 3,379,175 Infra, 1,938,168 Tech7: Umb sphere: 540 Nations, 23,931,548 NS, 44,318 Avg NS, 97.05 score, 618,827 Land, 2,910,943 Infra, 2,121,039 Tech8: ODN sphere: 693 Nations, 19,767,180 NS, 28,524 Avg NS, 88.07 score, 475,940 Land, 2,879,036 Infra, 1,630,722 Tech9: DT sphere: 364 Nations, 18,972,608 NS, 52,123 Avg NS, 74.88 score, 702,404 Land, 2,592,745 Infra, 1,594,839 Tech10: GPA sphere: 202 Nations, 16,684,313 NS, 82,596 Avg NS, 62.07 score, 743,523 Land, 2,442,049 Infra, 1,237,676 Tech11: WTF sphere: 169 Nations, 15,678,248 NS, 92,771 Avg NS, 57.67 score, 779,144 Land, 2,110,154 Infra, 1,293,097 Tech12: PAX sphere: 110 Nations, 6,849,771 NS, 62,271 Avg NS, 26.35 score, 307,882 Land, 1,019,281 Infra, 518,475 Tech Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown Smurf Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 (edited) Why would you put IRON in Aztec? EDIT: GLOF/IRON treaty was downgraded I thought? Edited February 20, 2014 by Unknown Smurf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown Smurf Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 (edited) Also Co-Prosperity.. lol? RIOT got hit by a rogue and noone else in that sphere helped them. EDIT: Also you nkow as well as me that SL doesn't fit in DL at all. They go with NSO. DL (well UCR) fractured into like 3 alliances post war because they couldn't agree on FA. Edited February 20, 2014 by Unknown Smurf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montosh Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Why would you put IRON in Aztec? EDIT: GLOF/IRON treaty was downgraded I thought? Ahh, no... :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daenerys Targaryen Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Lines have been drawn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeology Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Also Co-Prosperity.. lol? RIOT got hit by a rogue and noone else in that sphere helped them. EDIT: Also you nkow as well as me that SL doesn't fit in DL at all. They go with NSO. DL (well UCR) fractured into like 3 alliances post war because they couldn't agree on FA. many alliances can fit into different spheres such as MCXA can be put into a few. SL fits into the DL sphere with the SL/LSF MDoAP and as well with NSO with that treaty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Interesting look at things but I agree with Auctor that not all the alliances up there project a ton of power. You're also missing a set NPOsphere, which I think is one of the most powerful in the game right now. (Let's arbitrarily call it NPO, NG, AI, TPF, NSO, US and C&G, or something along those lines. I'm sure it can be modified, just giving a general idea.) I don't DBDC is in anyone's sphere of influence. Co-Prosperia: Kashmir, tJL, Riot Society Co-Prosperia sphere of influence: SC, NSO, Doom Squad I like this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daenerys Targaryen Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Aztec are moving quickly but its unwise to be moving to their side and committing yourself to their agenda. Many political masters are in Polardoxia so I wouldn't bet on a horse yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auctor Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Anyone that says AZTEC moves fast must be talking about someone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daenerys Targaryen Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Anyone that says AZTEC moves fast must be talking about someone else. Have you missed the treaties they've signed recently and the way they're shaping their sphere? They're starting to play politics at the top level by building and leading a powershere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxplayer Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Have you missed the treaties they've signed recently and the way they're shaping their sphere? They're starting to play politics at the top level by building and leading a powershere. What treaties? Besides Sengoku joining AZTEC, AZTEC hasn't signed hadly any treaties in the past 3 months, In fact DT dropped their treaty with LoSS yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auctor Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Have you missed the treaties they've signed recently and the way they're shaping their sphere? They're starting to play politics at the top level by building and leading a powershere. More than a couple of alliances have signed more treaties than all of AZTEC combined over the last nine months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daenerys Targaryen Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 What treaties? Besides Sengoku joining AZTEC, AZTEC hasn't signed hadly any treaties in the past 3 months, In fact DT dropped their treaty with LoSS yesterday. Your only looking at a single bloc but you need to look at the powershere AZTEC and DBDC are building If you want to see the light. Well I make no promises, you might see it but you need to posses the minimum requirements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Director Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Was I the only one who was hoping that Targaryen had quit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daenerys Targaryen Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 More than a couple of alliances have signed more treaties than all of AZTEC combined over the last nine months. That is irrelevant. Expect many changes as people have new goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auctor Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 That is irrelevant. Expect many changes as people have new goals. It sure would make what you are saying sound more credible if reality matched it is all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daenerys Targaryen Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Was I the only one who was hoping that Targaryen had quit? Trolls have no effect on me so making me quit will be very difficult. The closest I've been to quitting was If admins didn't take down that rape depiction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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