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[quote name='Kzoppistan' timestamp='1318544020' post='2824269'] Are you seriously trying that !@#$%^&* again? The fact that you doggedly cling to one lie over and over again is rather a pathetic lack of creativity. I know you can do better than that. Or did you find that mysteriously missing proof to back up your words? [/quote]You're arguing that something everyone heard about the night and morning before your alliance declared was somehow mysteriously kept hidden from the Legion? Really? Well, I guess since I can't produce logs, then clearly Occam's Razor doesn't apply. I think if you guys want to boast about how brave you were stepping into the abyss, it would behoove you to prove that Legion didn't know before their attack. And come now, lying? A single point? This conversation alone has displayed that neither of those off the hip accusations hold any water whatsoever. [quote] Who is running our war strategy and who isn't contributing? Since you seem to know, please elaborate on your hypothesis.[/quote]Sadly I do not have any specific names at the moment, so I guess it was a bit premature of me to let that slip before I was ready to back it up. All I have is reasoning and evidence that the Legion's strategy this war is not their own, right down to the lines you all are parroting. [quote] Did the sting of truth impress you enough that you now seek to use it yourself? And against the person who dealt it to you, no less? [/quote]Truth stings? Is there an ointment for that now? I'd love to see it, were that the case. [quote] Your favors are of dubious quality. Keep them to yourself.[/quote]Honestly, some people don't know a thing about gratitude... [quote] We are all very proud of you. Good job. [/quote] Thanks!

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[quote name='Sabcat' timestamp='1318543319' post='2824258'] I see, so you think that I speak for The Legion as a whole? I can free you from that particular delusion, my views are my own. I comment on what I wish, when the mood takes me. I make no guarantees of consistency, implied or otherwise. Am I to understand that your words carry more weight and you are in fact the voice of the NSO? All this time I assumed your opinions and analysis were endorsed by no one. [/quote] Applying your own personal standards is the responsibility of the one who holds them. If you can't even enforce those standards you claim to hold others to, across the board, then they're not worth much, are they? Tell me something, sabcat, has anything you've said up until now possessed any integrity? Or is this all just a show for the benefit of onlookers? I should hope you do, taking things this far for others amusement is a bit much, don't you think? Edit: typo [quote name='wes the wise' timestamp='1318543529' post='2824261'] Very nice. I will have the cash shortly. I will mail the cookie. Looks like someone doesn't like cookies! Its odd shape and soft texture prevent it from fitting anywhere except my mouth... I still have 3 million and a cookie for the "other side" now! who wants it? [/quote]I like Kzopp and Smurf, theyre trying extremely hard to reform an alliance crushed by the burdens of their past mistakes, and that takes a lot of tenacity and courage. I respect that, and wish them the best of luck. All stuff Ive said before, too

[quote name='Kzoppistan' timestamp='1318542176' post='2824249'] Oh, my apologies, I figured they were defacto considering they parroted your obsession with us and suicided themselves on your behalf, and then you ran to pick up their pieces for them. After checking to make sure you were in the clear, of course. Clearly, they should just merge with you seeing as they have no independent thought and are tarred with the same brush stroke of idiocy as yourselves. But, again, I suppose having a lackey is part of the prestige of the dark side. [/quote]Oh, come now, the only intelligent stroke of strategic brilliance the Legion has shown in recent memory was to wait until hearing about VE's downgraded treaty before attacking Tetris. Moreover, considering you've got others running your war strategy rather than legitimately contributing, you're really off the mark accusing anyone of waiting until things were safe, being idiots, or being anything other than someone's puppet. Free advice: If you want people to take you seriously, don't be a blatant hypocrite where everyone can see you. It don't reflect too well. [quote]Again, you take one statement (your greasy words are affording you no purchase so stop trying) and try to turn into some other (lol, multitasking) but fail miserably. [/quote]I simply tried to make a shallow and redundant "come at me bro" into something more than it was. From my perspective, I was doing you a favor in making it more interesting. [quote]I'm surprised you know the word. *Edited. For tact. [/quote] I know lots of words. It's a hobby of mine, learning them.

[quote name='Sabcat' timestamp='1318542237' post='2824250'] I did do something about it, I pointed out you were replying to what you think I said rather than what I actually said and that as such your outpourings are worthless. This doesn't seem to have discouraged you. You're last paragraph is confused, should I remove the log from my own eye or lecture someone else? They're mutually exclusive. Are you saying you want me to leave you alone and stop picking on you for you're difficulty in following a conversation. A difficulty that precludes you from being any use as even a lowly messenger boy. [/quote] Oh, I apologize if you weren't able to keep track of when I was using idiomatic speech, but suffice it to say, that when you go so far as to apply standards of accuracy to others, the least you can do is not become a showcase of hypocrisy by keeping your own comrades in check with said standards. But, then again, I suppose if you don't mind being a blatant hypocrite...(Thank you, Hereno)...By all means, continue your preaching from that soapbox of yours. I'm sure it makes sense to someone.

[quote name='Sabcat' timestamp='1318540260' post='2824230'] I didn't ask for your opinion on the bet, you can read can't you? I've never at any point said that contrary opinions are worthless, I said that I doubted the value of your updates. Reading is an important skill. If English is not your first language then I apologise for being unkind. [/quote] Ah, you seem to be correct, I apparently ignored the fact you were asking me to ask Varianz for you. Well, I suppose I can hardly be blamed for ignoring something so odd as a request to play messenger boy when you are more than capable of asking him yourself (which you did). Then again, I do make an awfully bad habit of volunteering my opinion wherever I can fit it. Oh well. Feel free to do something about it. But come now, if you call something worthless, and then also give blanket statements elsewhere that those comments are [b]also[/b] worthless, it isn't too surprising that a person would mistake you for some closed-minded individual, right? Well, then again, before you go about lecturing people on reading comprehension, might you first take those high standards and apply them to your PR departments mathematical skills? Removing the log from your own eye, and such. [quote] Almost as amusing as you being already convinced that somehow your empty words will change the war in any way, shape, or form. The fact is you tried running us through the mud,[b] prompted your protectorate to do the same[/b], and then stood amazement when we busted out the teeth of tetris for their petty !@#$%^&*. And you're next. No matter what it takes. Mutually assured destruction is the best dance there is. Christmas will be hot this year. Shut up. Fight. [/quote]I seem to have missed this (quite literally was not around then), which protectorate was this? Moreover, come now, Kzopp, clearly you don't think a person can't both fight and talk at the same time?

[quote name='Sabcat' timestamp='1318539341' post='2824222'] I'm glad I've amused you and thank your for your opinion on the bet, worthless as it is. I'm sure you are fighting. I'm not sure that you're assessment of the proportion of The Legion that's fighting is correct, only time will tell. I'm sure we can all count on you to provide us with regular updates, you'll forgive me if I doubt their value. [/quote] Taking into account the viewpoint you and your alliance are sticking to in regards to the actual shape of the war, I find it quite fulfilling that you consider all contrary opinions (reality) to be worthless and without merit. No, but seriously. If you ask for something, then clearly you don't consider it to be worthless. It's kind of childish to discard everything you dislike as "worthless", you know? It's how your alliance got into the position it finds itself in right now.

[quote name='Flonker' timestamp='1318539078' post='2824220'] Whatever you say, Darth FluffyBunny. Whatever gets you through the night. [/quote] See what I mean? Class A evasion. You're really good at that! Who's Darth FluffyBunny, by the way? I know of no fluffy or bunny NSO members, let alone a combination of the two. Mind letting me know, I mean, Ive already shared problematic stuff about your alliance with you in public, it's only fair that you reciprocate, right? Right? C'mooooooooon. That's totally more interesting than the fact you're convincing yourself that you're fighting at a disadvantage (other than the Legion Constant), and that 5 vs 1 really means anything when actual numbers are taken into account! Not to mention the immense hypocrisy of you all talking smack about anyones warchests.

[quote name='Flonker' timestamp='1318538406' post='2824215'] The aid provision in our surrender terms is for declared combatants, Darth FluffyBunny. We like the aidfall from TlR & GATO, just means there's more to take home when our GAs do their grocery runs. We're almost at the end of Round 2, and nobody thought we'd make it 3 days. And I notice NSO's getting aidfalls as well. WCs ain't quite as big as you tried letting on they were, eh? [/quote] Well, Id be lying if I said that we were able to enforce our WC requirements entirely across the board. But it's not like people are going to turn down free money. Taking and giving money freely to and from whomever is something we've done for years, after all. Then again, at least our friends are willing to give us whatever help they can, rather than look for whatever excuse to leave us out to dry. *shrug* Well, I suppose that twisted worldview is what makes the Legion, the Legion. Don't accept the hand held out for charity, scorn common sense, buy infra in war, pick fights with alliances 1/5 their size and call it "ballsy", "5 vs 1 is us at a disadvantage", "We dont need to make new friends the ones we have are the only ones we need!"...I could go on.

[quote name='Flonker' timestamp='1318537665' post='2824207'] [center][img]http://i53.tinypic.com/s6t25z.png[/img][/center] Yes, the offer is [b]indeed[/b] on the table: [/quote] [ooc]Either that is a truly wonderful shop job, or...I feel bad for the guy who went and posed for that photo[/ooc] But, yeah...An excellent evasion. My full compliments to you. At least you could try and justify it, like Smurf over here is, rather than resorting to tired old talking points that no one other than yourselves find clever. Or propaganda that engenders more pity than genuine support towards your cause. eDIT:[quote name='Sabcat' timestamp='1318537828' post='2824210'] Just fight. Fight until someone has to surrender. If you can't summon the courage for that get some more allies to send you cash to make you feel better. For the love of admin though please just shut up you deluded fool. BTW. Ask Varianz if you're little presents mean I've won my bet or whether in his view aid doesn't count. [/quote] lol Considering the stuff coming from a great number of your (present) comrades, it takes a great brass pair to call anyone deluded, or a fool, for that matter. And I don't know, I think that aid doesn't count, after all, if it did, someone would already be doing something to GATO and TLR about it, wouldnt they? By the way, make no mistake, I am fighting, in my own way and on the battlefield, which is a lot more than a sizable percentage of your alliance can claim to their credit. So please, by all means, continue with the hypocrisy, it makes my efforts all the more worthwhile to engage in.

[quote name='Unknown Smurf' timestamp='1318537078' post='2824203'] Buying infra to support GCs is a good move. As for [b]large nations[/b] buying infra to stem losses, that's utter !@#$%^&* and you're obviously talking out of your ass. You guys just aren't doing as much damage to our infra... [/quote] Now that's an interesting quantifier. When did I say that your buying of infra was limited to your large nations? Methinks the one talking out of your ass is entirely yourself. But come now, you're really going to say that nukes don't [b]really[/b] destroy all that much infra? That's certainly an...interesting claim. Mind backing it up? Even a Legionairre's nukes take their toll on infrastructure over time, y'know? Edit: Improper possessive

[quote name='Flonker' timestamp='1318535048' post='2824188'] No, we don't. In fact, we're ordered to [b]NOT[/b] buy infra for the duration of war, just rebuy [b]military[/b]. Get your facts straight. [/quote] Uh huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh. How odd. It seems that there are a large number of your active, warring, nations that are disregarding this apparent "order". I guess I better compile a list of screenshots so you can reprimand those insubordinate members of yours? But Im sure that you guys have such high levels of internal coordination and communication that you don't need the help, am I right? Well, either way, the offer is on the table, just drop me a PM if you'd like.

[quote name='Unknown Smurf' timestamp='1318355136' post='2822936'] Maybe he was expecting you to do at least as much damage as you recieved [/quote] It's easy to stem the loss of NS when you've got standing orders for your nations to buy infra after every GA/nuke/Air strike/CM that happens to do damage. The problem is that you guys are gonna go broke fast, doing that...And well, we won't. We don't mind playing the long game, you know? I just hope your guys' handler conveyed the downside of the bet your alliance made when embarking upon this strategy.

[quote name='Evangeline Anovilis' timestamp='1318457944' post='2823636'] I think you should lower it, not because nobody would take it at 200:1 odds (I'd still go with it, even for 400:1), but because this really is like free tech. Even if Legion wins, BTA isn't really doing much anyway and NSO, as well as NsO are both too stubborn to disband, even if all of them would get ZIed in the war. It's the very nature of their alliances that makes it impossible for them to disband just because of a lost war with Legion. [/quote] To be fair, my intent is to use the pool to pay out the earnings to winners, and then whatever that doesnt cover id pay out myself once I get to an infra level capable of supporting that. So yes, it's free tech. To the winners. I'll simply leave that bet as a standalone, and put a restriction on anyone betting against him... On the other hand, if you don't mind betting 200 tech just to get 1 back, then by all means. Send that tech.

[quote name='Methrage' timestamp='1318104289' post='2821036'] Bets make things more interesting, so I don't mind sending the first one to take me up on the offer 100 tech even if I lose, as long as they are willing to do same if they somehow lose the bet. [/quote] No big deal for me, Ill certainly take you up on it.

[quote name='Dochartaigh' timestamp='1317956081' post='2819266'] Awesome, thanks for the heads up. Also, put me down for 100 tech on Tetris losing 500k NS by the end of the round. [/quote] Done. Giving you 5:1 odds. Good luck.

[quote name='Dochartaigh' timestamp='1317955217' post='2819251'] I am tempted to wager on Tetris losing just as much NS as Legion but I will hold off until tomorrow before deciding. Would like to see if IAA/BTA can absorb some damage first as well as see if Legion truly does end up in bill lock. [/quote] Ill give you 3:1 odds on that bet if you decide to follow through with it. I dont think IAA/BTA will absorb much damage at all, since the Legion doesn't have a great counter-declaration rate going.

[quote name='Dochartaigh' timestamp='1317954790' post='2819242'] Okay, I was just trying to make sure I had a clear set of parameters before I ventured a wager or took you up on yours. Also, I did forget when NSO went in because I somehow managed to forget that Legion declared 6 hours prior to update. I will have to think this one over because, most likely Legion will lose 500k NS prior to the end of rounds, since they only need to lose another 237k at this point, unless more nations join Legion as that Sabcat(?) fellow did. If I were you, I would put a time limit on accepting your bet though as you do not want people to wait until the last minute to take you up on your bet in case others do join Legion. [/quote] Oh, I dont mind not having a set time limit, since this thread is going to keep going until the end of the war. But if others do join Legion, it may make things more interesting at least. Things really are pretty ugly for them except for the transplants at the rate this is going.

[quote name='Seerow' timestamp='1317953969' post='2819214'] To be perfectly honest, I think Polar is so paranoid about getting rolled, they'd sit there and watch Legion go all the way down to rubble as a collective and still not jump in. Nobody's going to touch polar until they decide to actually go after Polar. But nobody will do that for fear of PR. [/quote] A few more days and Legion'll realize just how badly they need the help.

[quote name='Pearl' timestamp='1317954246' post='2819222'] You forgot to say previously that NSO is a terrible alliance. I also wanted to add this for your benefit as well: NO U would save yourself time, as well as others around you [/quote] Well, regardless of whether were terrible or not, we are, by no means, a Sparta or a Legion. A fact I consider to be considerable cause for celebration.

[quote name='Dochartaigh' timestamp='1317954024' post='2819215'] What are the parameters for this bet? Does the loss of NS start on the 3rd when the war began for Legion, or the 4th when Legion had its military build up? Because if we go by the 3rd, Legion has only lost 92k NS so far. If we go by the 4th though, Legion has lost 263k NS. Not to mention, what constitutes the end of the round? Is it the 10th, which would be the end of the initial round of wars with Tetris? Or is it the end of the initial round of wars with NSO (which would be the 11th I believe)? [/quote] I was under the impression it was going off of when they began their military buildup, to be honest, since that's a more accurate assessment of cumulative strength lost via the conflict. And...Im pretty sure the NSO declared their first rounds that same day, so itll be the day of the end of the same round of wars with Tetris.

[quote name='Pearl' timestamp='1317953813' post='2819209'] hahahaha, I won't argue that logic. Wow, I'm impressed. That one took some effort. Next time don't waste my time, and just write NOU. [/quote] Well, thats to be expected when you state the obvious under the hilariously mistaken impression of it being some kind of burn. But...feel free to come and try again later when you have a better diss on hand.

[quote name='Sigrun Vapneir' timestamp='1317953501' post='2819198'] "The He Said - She Said War" might fit. [/quote] How so? I dont think hearsays really related to this war at all.

[quote name='Pearl' timestamp='1317952401' post='2819165'] So you support unjust actions? As long as I have you on the record saying that, +1 to my asshatery statement above. [/quote] Oh no, NSO are asshats! In other news, water is wet, The Legion cant fight, and Sparta still sucks hardest of all alliances on Planet Bob.