TehChron

[quote name='kwell' timestamp='1317952227' post='2819157'] Nice try, but I'm not in gov, but that doesn't mean that I'm not entitled to my own opinions. I call it like I see it. U mad? [/quote] No, Im just disappointed to see someone with such a shallow viewpoint in their ranks.

[quote name='Locke' timestamp='1317951647' post='2819145'] These always end badly. I think this man is on to something. [/quote] [ooc]Just because you dont like it when people try to put it on the wiki, doesnt mean you guys are the arbitrator of how these are named, you know? [/ooc] Nah, its a dull name and doesnt really cover the complexities of the conflict. Even the one who first came up with it changed their mind.

[quote name='Pearl' timestamp='1317952094' post='2819155'] Sabcat, it's very simple, really: Tetris is a terrible alliance, and NSO is just as bad if not worse plus the asshatery. Legion was completely justified in declaring war. People should be mad Tetris is trying to grow the war, and the alliances supporting unjust actions. This war is likely the most clearcut CB BoB has seen in quite some time. Alliances fighting in defense of Tetris are just muscling their political power. [/quote] No, we're not flexing any political power, we're defending an ally from the Legions aggressive attacks. Sorry you feel that way about us, though, feel free to do something about it and whatnot.

[quote name='The Big Bad' timestamp='1317950967' post='2819135'] Legion is sad, Tetris is complete garbage however the war when it was just Legion VS Tertris NSO NsO was ok and kind of interesting. BTA and IAA coming is completely pathetic and just makes Legion look good. [/quote] It'll take a lot more than that, Im afraid, to make Legion look good.

[quote name='kwell' timestamp='1317951204' post='2819138'] I bet that you are a small nation with a big ego and not much to show for it. [/quote] Well, I guess I wouldnt be surprised that you went to join Umbrella with an attitude like that. However, you do them a disservice with that kind of commentary.

[quote name='porksaber' timestamp='1317948516' post='2819103'] Except Hydra in the last war. [/quote] lol Man, I never really thought too highly of Hydra, to be honest. Even as a friend, Jacalopo loved trying to tell us how to run our FA.

[quote name='arch3004' timestamp='1317948822' post='2819110'] The Litter Box war - full of furries and !@#$ [/quote] What furries? Locke was never a member of NsO.

[quote name='White Chocolate' timestamp='1317947934' post='2819091'] There are a ton of wars that could have that name, imo. Nothing in it that suggests this one in particular as opposed to some of the others I've seen on Planet Bob. I like The Sup War™ much better. [/quote] That's nice. But...I think the point I was making is that IE is what's going to stick. Sorry. Thanks for playing.

[quote name='LeonidasRexII' timestamp='1317947759' post='2819088'] NP, thanks for clearing it up. 1. Where did I brag? There's really nothing to brag about getting caught flat-footed and dropping like a stone. 2. I only put that up so that the chart would have my nations name in it. It wasn't meant to be a comment on mine or my opponents war-fighting capability. [/quote] Ah, then my apologies. Thought this was somehow related to you calling us hypocrites for whatever reason.

[quote name='Duke Nukem' timestamp='1317947117' post='2819063'] I bet 100 tech kzoppistan's propaganda will still continue to suck. [/quote] Null bet. Sorry, but [i]your bet has to be something that has a chance of not happening.[/i] My fault, should have specified.

[quote name='LeonidasRexII' timestamp='1317947073' post='2819061'] Yeah yeah you caught me flat footed. Seriously didn't expect war until at least the end of Nov to mid Dec, cause everyone knows that "Winter is Coming!". Gonna have to step up my research on the Sith detecting gopher I've been working on. If it sees it's shadow in the light of a light-saber that means there'll be six more weeks of Siththyness. Did you mean to post this - [img]http://easycaptures.com/fs/uploaded/579/6436424065.png[/img] When I fight I go all out, so sue me. [/quote]So wait, the fact that your Tetris opponent lost relatively little NS despite starting significantly smaller than you, after your buildup, and then you were brought down to his level is something to brag about? Interesting logic there.

[quote name='Methrage' timestamp='1317946294' post='2819045'] IAA decided to bandwagon in on an oA clause to attack an alliance when their assistance was not needed and the whole part about their assistance being asked for was just an excuse used to get at Legion, who is already losing but IAA still wants to attack purely for their own amusement. You really expect anyone to believe that? Alliances are treaty chaining in because Tetris and their allies were having a hard time and needed the help, saying otherwise isn't believable at all. If their help wasn't needed, I don't think IAA would bandwagon into a war like this just so they can have fun beating on an alliance who is already losing. [/quote] Methrage, you have no idea what the stats of this fight are. Legion's already lost the mid-range war, which is the only relevant range thats being fought here. Remember IRON-Gramlins? Yeah, its gonna wind up being like that, only at a far more accelerated pace due to Legions institutionalized lack of warchests.

[quote name='LeonidasRexII' timestamp='1317946642' post='2819053'] That's not a joke, that's hypocrisy. [/quote] Oh, sorry, we're just using strategy. You know. Picking our battlefield and all that. Seems to be working out for us, would you like some pointers for future reference?

[quote name='nippy' timestamp='1317946439' post='2819050'] I suppose that depends on which half. [/quote] Well, I suppose we'll find out which half it'll be once the war ends.

[quote name='Jaiar' timestamp='1317945835' post='2819033'] I want Legion to win this war. I disagree with the actions of NSO and Tetris, but Legion is not being bullied. Legion has the means to defend themselves; they simply refused to do so for a long time. Legion has surprised everyone by actually declaring war. All the alliances joining do not turn this war. Legion must still execute with their larger nations. They should care less about helping their tiny nations. This war is for Legion to win or lose therefore with so much control in this war, it's not accurate to depict Legion as a victim of bullying. [/quote] What can I say, your logic is irrefutable. Legion should definitely be winning this conflict, given their massive advantage in the upper tiers.

[quote name='foxfire99' timestamp='1317946204' post='2819041'] I think no matter how you value it nobody's going to give you much payout. [/quote] 2:1 odds is what Ill give it, so he'll only be getting a 1/2 Dilber as his winnings. So...Seerow, what will you be doing with half a Dilber?

[quote name='D34th' timestamp='1317945776' post='2819030'] You shouldn't bet something that you doesn't have. [/quote] Unlike the Legion, I have a warchest, which means I am capable of buying things once the war ends. Or I can just take it from them in GAs, either way, Im not too worried about being able to pay...myself. Why not join in as well? Ill give you great odds on a Polar DoW

[url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=105838"]As indicated in this thread, the best name of this war can only be considered the Incompetence Extravaganza.[/url] Now that we've set aside the first and second most important steps for the peanut gallery in this conflict (A propaganda thread and deciding upon a name, respectively), now we come across the next, and arguably most important point: Bets. I, and the NSO's Council of Econ will work to organize trades to settle this bet, but essentially, mark your bet here, and I, or another qualified individual ('Sup, Seerow) will give odds on it. Depending on whether or not you win that bet, we will organize the persons winnings from the collected pool at the end of the IE War. I'll start off with a simple one: 100 tech on the Legion losing over 500k NS before the end of this round.

[quote name='Kzoppistan' timestamp='1317944925' post='2819015'] Oh, you want to drag it out do you? Waiting implies that we had some foreknowledge of the cancellation and attacked after it happened. That is not the case. The gears of war began turning the moment Tetris made those posts. What ever was going on between their own stupidity and VE's reaction to it was not even on our radar. Tetris's treaties were irrelevant to the scenario as there was only one course of action. As far as we knew, VE would be a likely counter. "There is no avoiding war, only postponing it to the benefit of your enemy." Now get the $%&@ out of here with that spin. Get smarter or find something else to make up. [/quote] So now what you're arguing is [i]not[/i] declaring war was in order to give potential counters more time to be prepared to hit you back? Well...that's certainly an...[i]original[/i] strategy, I must admit.

[quote name='White Chocolate' timestamp='1317944271' post='2819009'] Best so far. In any case, the name should have Sup in it somewhere. Sup, Legion? War [/quote] Nah, IE (Incompetence Extravaganza) War is what's sticking.

[quote name='Kzoppistan' timestamp='1317944311' post='2819011'] That's not proof. That's you trying to create something that isn't there. You have nothing to back up your claims which makes your word !@#$. You've lost this point because it was a lie. Take a hike. *Edit: Every lie you tell makes you weaker. Stick to the facts, Chron. [/quote] I just used facts by referring to the general timeline, Kzopp. Sorry if implication reflects poorly on you all. But then again, its not like facts are too kind to you lot, either.

[quote name='Kzoppistan' timestamp='1317943764' post='2819000'] I didn't tell you to run your gobstopper, I told you to prove it. Do so now, or just go ahead and tell the world that you just talk what ever !@#$ that falls into that skull of yours. [/quote] All I need to do is refer to the timeline? I may not have specifics, buuuuut... -Hereno posts screenshots in public, embarrassing the Legion -VE Downgrades, Tetris reshuffles government -Legion attacks Ergo, The Legion [i]literally waited until after the Viridian Entente downgraded their treaty with Tetris[/i] (i.e. waited until the risk was lessened) [i]before declaring war[/i]. Literally. What's there to prove?

[quote name='LittleRena' timestamp='1317943582' post='2818997'] I didn't lock it, I don't have that much control over the wiki, as for one-sided, I only put it what was given in the original DoW, I was going to add more when more came out, I think I can still edit it so I will add more in now if you wish. I wouldn't make it purposfully one sided when there are a number of alliances I like on one side, lol, must just be my incompetence in writting. [/quote] See what I mean? Incompetence Extravaganza encapsulates this entire conflict. Use IE War if you think it's necessary to have war in there, but seriously, change the name to that.

[quote name='Kzoppistan' timestamp='1317943400' post='2818992'] Prove it. If you can, I'll cede that point. But you can't because it's a lie. And every lie you tell makes you weaker. No matter how many times you repeat it, it won't make it a truth. [/quote] Well, if it makes us weaker, why stop us from using it? From the looks of things, you guys need every advantage you can get at this point.

[quote name='LittleRena' timestamp='1317942488' post='2818981'] I already came up with that name as the creator of the wiki article [/quote] It's generic and terrible, though. No reason to publicly take credit for it.