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TehChron

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  1. [quote name='Mandellav' timestamp='1322725466' post='2858003'] How do I apply for financial aid? [/quote] You give me control of your finances and then we see what happens.
  2. [quote name='Gibsonator21' timestamp='1322723621' post='2857965'] The irony was too much to resist. [/quote] You can't be seriously unaware of the irony in you saying that, can you? lol Well, whatever. I certainly won't stop you. Have fun doing whatever.
  3. [quote name='Unknown Smurf' timestamp='1322720731' post='2857905'] Huge problem. Too much emphasis given to seniority than skill. [/quote] Quit being defeatist and enjoy this for what it is. After this class if these people were unable to obtain enough relevance to make full use of their abilities, then oh well. Regardless of the outcome it'll be a fascinating experiment.
  4. If you can get anything through my thick skull, then I'm game, Ivan.
  5. [quote name='Ivan Moldavi' timestamp='1322713061' post='2857605'] Well, the world needs a good villain now and again. Otherwise what's the point? Without a charismatic nemesis, or a protagonist with the ability to manufacture enemies or demonize opponents, you end up with a bunch of moralist brigades running around shouting about being butthurt over things that happened years ago...oh wait. [/quote] Honestly I think MK should change it's name to the New Mushroom Order and just install you as King-Emperor-Authority Figure and see where things go from there. But that's just me.
  6. [quote name='Ivan Moldavi' timestamp='1322712036' post='2857584'] This is true in most situations. Also, hello. [/quote] That's not what she said to me last night. Oooooh yeah, welcome back, Ivan. Additionally, I don't think it's anyone's business if RIA doesn't want to throw themselves onto Polaris' sword just because they wanted to codify a friendship/acquire a meatshield. By both rationale's very nature, they should prioritize their own safety. If they get hit, then who will aid Polar with rebuilding aid? They just sent all of their spare non-WC cash to the Legion to keep them from losing in the IE a month ago. And even if they just want to use Polar as a meatshield, then why should they even care if they get hit? It's not like there's anyone else that'll take them if they give the NpO the cold shoulder. Bravo, RIA. Truly, bravah. Don't listen to the random haters trying to taunt you into rash actions. I, for one, am truly impressed by your Machiavellian skills, and eagerly await your next brilliant maneuver. Damn, it's good to see Ivan back.
  7. [quote name='Olaf Styke' timestamp='1322710782' post='2857558'] Disagree. At best he's #8... at BEST. Doesn't mean he doesn't deserve consideration. [/quote] Yes but you just made a ridiculously long-winded argument for why he is the equal of Sponge. [quote]Who built their strategies around Sponge? Give me an example of a strategy or a policy built around Sponge. I would like an archive of logs from different alliance leaders planning out their diplomacy based on what Sponge will do please. Must include at least once reference to 'But what if Sponge does... [insert brilliant political move here]". Could we have a few less ridiculous assertions, please? Sponge was a powerful alliance leader. So was Tulak. There are quite a number of others who fall in to the same category. Acting like Sponge is somehow head and shoulders above the rest of the worthy candidates... please. Grow up. Less animosity, more dialogue.[/quote] Now if you want an example of people planning around Sponge's actions and Sponge's impact, well then... http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/Unjust_War http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/Moldavi_Rebellion http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/Drinking_Buddies http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/BLEU http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/Pacifica-Polaris_Dispute http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/War_of_the_Coalition Aaaand finally, http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/Electron_Sponge Now before you go talking smack about how terribly immature I am for pointing out how absurd your argument is, you need to sit down, be objective, look at things rationally, and finally...[b]get owned, fool[/b]. Tulak Horde is no Electron Sponge. I'll say it again: [i]Tulak Horde is no Electron Sponge[/i], even putting the two in the same category is a colossal disservice to what Sponge and other alliance leaders of his caliber have accomplished over the years. That's the end of the debate. [quote]Grow up.[/quote]Sheesh. The sheer U MAD is palpable coming off of you. They're called "Legends" for a reason. Not just anyone can be one.
  8. If you're really going to try and rationalize the viewpoint of Sponge being relatively irrelevant in order to boost the image of your favored candidate (Tulak Horde) who is about the same level of infamy/accomplishments as Zhadum, then yeah...You need to take a step back. Sponge's impact isn't limited to the NpO and the results of their policy (glue binding the continuum together? Are you serious when you state that as a legendary accomplishment?), but his actions, his personality, his very presence and the way folks were forced to build their strategies and policies around Sponge are what put him up there. Seriously trying to bring him down to Tulak Horde's level is disingenuous on your part. List his accomplishments if youre so desperate to get him recognized, don't make absurd arguments, it'll only lead to responses like this one rather than being taken seriously.
  9. [quote name='Mogar' timestamp='1322684186' post='2857207'] this could be good, i'll nominate ivan, since, he's ivan. I'm thinking he'll probably win this tbh. [/quote] I'm seconding Ivan. The only person who has ever been able to bring Sponge to heel.. Who else among candidates for CN Legends has gotten all other players at the uppermost levels at the time to shut up and follow his lead? Threads over people. If there can be only one, then it's obvious who it's gonna be.
  10. [quote name='prince buster' timestamp='1322680050' post='2857155'] Oh come on she's just so me me me look at me. [/quote] That's kind of funny coming from you, considering that's all your alliance has ever been good for. At least Pezstar can accomplish other things aside from desperately pleading for attention and relevance whenever the opportunity presents itself. Good luck, STA.
  11. [quote name='mattski133' timestamp='1322672252' post='2857059'] i think a legend would be someone who is no longer here whose actions still echo down to present day. if you're still here it's hard to be a legend. [/quote] Yes, we keep getting back to that. Which is why the bar is raised so high.
  12. You know, Ive been saying this since my return from unknown lands, but I think it bears repeating: Purely in the interests of having fun, what's wrong with being a hypocrite? Really? All that really matters is what you're doing right now, not what you did 3 years ago. Unless you still would do the same thing, which is why some people are facing their current predicament.
  13. [quote name='IYIyTh' timestamp='1322567138' post='2855780'] Gangsters. I see the post-war propoganda unfolding before my eyes. [/quote] God I love provoking people with faux outrage. [quote name='AlmightyGrub' timestamp='1322557916' post='2855733'] As for NSO, you do really understand you had white peace on the table before you arrogantly declared war on the alliance offering you the said white peace. You are a collection of try hards who feel the need to blow off steam towards anyone who doesn't do things exactly as you want. You wanted to join the war, we didn't activate the treaty, and we offered to get you out of the war but you insisted on making the situation impossible with your stupidity and arrogance. I regret not tying things up more tightly at the time with Fark, but I tried extremely hard to fix it in the following 24 hours and had a solution for you. You simply were too impatient and too arrogant to wait for a few hours for me to resolve the issues, !@#$ting on me from a great height while you did so.[/quote] I mean, yeah, Grub, you really do suck. But are you worth the time for me to be honestly mad? Naw. You really aren't. If I particularly cared enough to really hold a grudge, you'd bet I'd be doing something about it right about now. But I don't, so you're more than welcome to carry on being a millstone on the neck of your community. You know. Being useless. Dragging them down. Accomplishing nothing. I'm sure you're enjoying yourself. (side note: since you didn't bother to tell us about this "white peace" you keep throwing about, we decalared an offensive war in order to nullify treaty obligations by our treaty partners, [i]in order to save them from being involved in your crap.[/i] Last I check such was called loyalty, not arrogance. ) [quote name='AlmightyGrub' timestamp='1322557916' post='2855733']I don't like your alliance, I liked and respected your leader at the time (and I still do) and everything I have seen since made me extremely glad to be isolated from you. I am responsible for what happened, I did it and have admitted as much several dozen times. That I refuse to be repentant about it doesn't mean I don't have some regrets. Screwing TOP is not among my regrets even now, screwing NSO certainly is. I have apologized to you, but in your typically arrogant gangster attitude, you refuse to move on. Whatever to be honest. I can make my peace with Ivan and be satisfied. The rest of you are on borrowed time any way. [/quote] Perhaps. But you know, despite being rolled over and over again, we still live on with dignity, rather than living in denial and having our membership begging everyone within earshot to use Ivan as a scapegoat to try and become relevant again. Not that the community you've created would know that. You know. Dignity.
  14. [quote name='Mergerberger II' timestamp='1322552202' post='2855704'] False. The revisionism that is present in today's CN to make Polaris look worse than it is is astounding. Yes, we screwed you, but we did accept responsibility and that was made known to your government following the war. We apologized, it was accepted, and we all moved on. It was only some months later that the issue resurfaced as if it hadn't been addressed. [/quote] No it wasn't, considering I was an active part of said government. You sent a PM after the war blaming Grub for the mess and saying we should have gotten out sooner no matter what was on the table. Or a query. It was [i]probably[/i] just a post-it note tacked onto the fridge in the old Frostbite lounge. So...yeah, revisionism my ass. Only revisionists in this discussion are you guys trying to pretend your actions are anyone else's fault but your own.
  15. [quote name='Mergerberger II' timestamp='1322551873' post='2855700'] We don't wonder anything. We are fully aware of why there is a strong sentiment if distaste for us. What BloodFury said was that no effort whatsoever had been made to accept responsibility for our actions, whereas in fact we have accepted responsibility. That is all that was said. I didn't say I ever expected any forgiveness, all that was said was that we had accepted responsibility. [/quote] Im pretty sure that isn't the case with regards to the Sith. Y'all somehow still have it internally rationalized that us being left out on the field to burn is our fault. It takes a special kind of worthless ally, and an even more special kind of mass delusion to pull something like that off.
  16. [quote name='Fallen Fool' timestamp='1322551622' post='2855695'] So you checked with people close to me before labeling me arrogant and condescending? No? We accepted that we did what we did and we know why we did it. You personally, on the other hand, see very keen to divorce yourself from the situation entirely. So you fundamentally misread a foreign leader and ordered a failed military strike which resulted in both significant statistical damage and massive reparations but hey, that is not your fault! You were just the alliance leader! You did not have any input whatsoever into how events unfolded. You too bud. [/quote]And while youre busy rationalizing why backstabbing TOP was A-OK, youre still pointedly ignoring the fact that you also screwed over two of your [i]direct allies, only one of which you made any real attempt to make amends to[/i]. So yeah. You keep trying there, I'm sure youll be able to convince everyone of how youre a victim and we'll all feel so sorry for poor you that we'll all intervene and get TOP and IRON rolled on your behalf. Really. Itll happen. It totally will.
  17. [quote name='Mergerberger II' timestamp='1322551020' post='2855681'] I could take these exact same words and apply them to Grub. No one close to Grub believes he is arrogant or condescending. Your main mistake was your weird plan to declare war on C&G for no reason and also bandwaggon on the back of our CB, as if it had something to do with a war on completely different alliances. [/quote] Polaris dragged IRON and TOP in on [i]our[/i] backs, actually. And the reasoning was that CnG would be dragged in by treaty chains due to the way Polaris had recklessly barreled through in starting that war. And then proceeded to leave the Sith to burn with the rest of them. So yeah. TOP and IRON arent the only ones your alliance backstabbed. And we have a [i]hell[/i] of a lot better reason to be happy to see you burn. And make no mistake: We are enjoying it.
  18. [quote name='Fallen Fool' timestamp='1322549436' post='2855656'] We tried to open channels of communication with TOP in order to find some sort of way to make amends. They told us to $%&@ off and that they would kill us one of these days. Which, ultimately, is there prerogative. But do not act like we never tried to make amends.[/quote] I ain't talkin' about TOP there, buddy.
  19. [quote name='Fallen Fool' timestamp='1322545616' post='2855590'] You are assigning a dark ulterior motive to my entire alliance with little knowledge how my people actually responded to the events of BiPolar because it suits your petty, narrow-minded sense of vengeance. Do not pretend you are doing anything else. And if you think Grub actually is indicative of Polar as whole then you are either tragically misguided or laughably detached from reality. [/quote] When you all find the spine to move out from under his shadow and actually make amends for your actions, rather than blaming everyone else (hi) for your collective nonsense, maybe this fine sentiment you're expressing here will manage to gain some traction with people. Until then, $%&@ off, you self-righteous ass. You left your allies (hi) to die on the battlefield after that backstabbing and then proceeded to blame us for having the gall to expect treatment equal to what you gave the rest of your allies as a consolation prize for nearly getting them rolled? Again, screw off, you self-righteous tool. Don't even [i]talk[/i] to people about narrow-mindedness, considering Polar Tunnel Vision. You're almost as bad as the Legion. Get out. Seriously. Get out, right now.
  20. [quote name='Yevgeni Luchenkov' timestamp='1322543949' post='2855557'] Given that you backstabbed us in 2010 for something that had occured in 2008, I'd say we consider time in a fairly similar manner. [/quote] Ok that one was pretty good. I chuckled a fair amount at the irony.
  21. [quote name='Delta1212' timestamp='1322542583' post='2855516'] Who said anything about pictures? [/quote] Just rehearsing my lines of argument for whatever proof you present to back up your claims. You don't seriously expect the rest of us to take your word for it, now do you?
  22. [quote name='Dilber' timestamp='1322541311' post='2855491'] This is actually true. :< [/quote] Clearly those pictures were actually of weather balloons. Or really badly photoshopped images of Robin Williams.
  23. [quote name='Feanor Noldorin' timestamp='1322537383' post='2855371'] Bilrow or Grub over Dilber? :psy: [/quote] That's because Dilber isn't a Legend. He's a Myth.
  24. [quote name='justavictim82' timestamp='1322529477' post='2855248'] I still think people do not understand the concept of 'He left on his own'. Believe what you want to believe. Except as I stated above as well as by other members of the Legion that he left on his own fruition. What part of that do people not understand? You are same people that told him to shut up during the war and now all the sudden because he is doing the cool thing and bashing Legion he is excused of all dumb posting? Looks great on you. Again I reiterate that I have no issues with Smurf other than this attention grab. He knows that as well. Edit:Grammar derp [/quote] I find it deeply hilarious that you don't even debate the references to your government. I mean, there's just some things that simply can not be disagreed with seriously. Anyway, the Sith have him now, and I, for one, am glad of it.
  25. [quote name='Confusion' timestamp='1322456460' post='2854258'] You seem mad. Why are you mad, doe? [/quote] Because throwing loyal members under the bus for a joke thread is a practice that honestly kind of disgusts me. [quote]there seems to be some misunderstanding in that this was a reaction to a single thread. that is not the case. as many will have already noted smurf was and perhaps still will be very active here on the bb's. after a number of his posts/threads we'd decided to speek to him about his intentions and the ramifications of what he wrote given that the posts/threads could be interpreted as an alliance wide state of mind. on every occasion he had indicated that he would bear in mind what we had said prior to any more activity here. however, while his intentions may have been pure, that which we had discussed must not have been aparent enough to resound in his arguments and observations. after some time, though he had been loyal on the field of battle, the disloyalty by not observing our disussions and the implied meaning, be those clearly expressed or sujestive, began to give us cause for concern. the thread in question was the final stroke delievered by himself and his removal from foreign affairs and consequent resignation from the alliance was the result. personally, aside from the OWF drama he created or added to for us, i had little reason to dislike him on an individual level. on the alliance level that like could not be translated into a continued part of our alliance.[/quote] So where is the notice for raiders to hit Kzoppistan, Alexander Proconsul, Regent whatever, and numerous others that did a far better job of wrecking whatever good will you were trying to accumulate during the past war than how Smurf was posting? Honestly, you all need to get your perspectives fixed.
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